Organic no till, probiotic, knf, jadam, vermicomposting, soil mixes, sips etc... Q & A

Discussion in 'Organics' started by hyroot, Oct 11, 2017.


    hyroot Well-Known Member


    Step 1: Rice Wash

    1 Cup of Rice

    1 Cup of Clean Chlorine-free water

    1 Pint Jar w lid

    1 Coffee Filter

    • Place Water and Rice in Jar.
    • Secure lid on Jar
    • Shake Jar for 5 minutes
    • Strain out the rice and keep the white water
    • Place 1 coffee filter on top of jar and secure the band without the lid so it can breath.
    • Place Jar (on top of your fridge) at room temperature.
    • Wait 1 week for bacteria from the air to fall into your jar.
    • Make 2 just in case you get contaminated.
    • After 1 week strain Rice wash through a strainer and place the lid on securely.
    • Your Rice wash is now full of microbes and ready for step 2 (Lab[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Step 2: LABS (Lactic Acid Bacteria Serum)

    1 Part Rice Wash (1 cup)

    10 Parts Milk (½ Gallon)

    1 Gallon Glass Jug (Apple Juice Jug)

    3 Coffee Filters

    1 Rubber band

    • Place rice wash and milk in the jug
    • Give it a swirl/mix.
    • Cut the 3 coffee Filters in half and now you got 6 halves.
    • Place the filters on top of the jug and secure with a rubber band.
    • Place the Jug on top of the fridge.
    • Wait 1 week for the Separation to occur of the Lactic Acid Bacteria Serum.
    • After 1 week Strain and Separate the Serum from the Curd (Cheese).
    • The Yellow Liquid is called Lactic Acid Bacteria Serum (LABS)
    • The Cheese can be used as a top dressing for your Flowering Plants Soil.
    • Proceed to Step 3.


    Step 3: AEM1 (Activated Essential Micro Organisms)

    1 Part LABS (1 Quart)

    1 Part Molasses (1 Quart)

    20 Parts Non-Chlorine Water

    1 5 Gallon Carboy Glass Jug

    1 Air Lock

    1 Stopper

    • Place Water, Molasses and Labs in the 5 Gallon Jug or Bucket.
    • Mix
    • Secure Tight the Air Lock and Stopper on Jug .
    • Don’t Forget to add water to the Air Lock.
    • Place the Jug back in the box it came in.
    • Place Box in the Flowering room for 3 weeks to diffuse CO2 Gas to the plants.
    • After brewing for 3 weeks test the Ph to be 3.5 Ph.
    • After testing make sure there is no more pressure produced from the brew.
    • Pour solution in Jars and secure the lid tight.
    • Store Jars at room Temperature for 3 Months Max.
    • Feed Plants from all stages at a rate of 1 Pint of Activated Essential Micro Organisms x 5 Gallons of clean water.


    Step 4: Flower Power

    1 Quart of Activated LABS

    4.5 Gallons of Non-Chlorine Water

    1 5 Gallon Bucket

    Organic Matter (Flowers,Fruits,Vegetables,Coconuts,Bugs,Pumpkins,Bananas)

    No MEAT

    No Citrus

    • Place All your Organic Matter in the bucket and add water with LABS.
    • Mix
    • Cover bucket
    • Let it sit outside when the weather is 40+ degrees.
    • After 3 weeks of Fermenting it should have a White Layer on top of the water.
    • Mix
    • Let it sit another week to ferment further.
    • Now its been 1 mth go ahead and take out 1 Quart of solution and replace with 1 Quart of clean Non-Chlorine Water.
    • Go Ahead and Add the 1 Quart Solution of Flower Power to 5 Gallons of Clean Water.
    • Test your PPM
    • Week 1 =100 PPM Week 8 = 800 PPM
    • No Need to Test PH
    • Don’t foliar feed with this solution.
    • Feed All Flowering Plant
    Green Plants and Green Veggies - Veg
    Red, Yellow, and Orange Fruits - Flower

    keepsake Well-Known Member

    1 qt of AEM
    4.5 gals of water

    How much in weight of greens for veg power juice?
    How much in weight of flowers and fruits for bloom power juice?

    Greenthumbs256 Well-Known Member

    Sorry about blowing up your thread but im really interested in doing this this right the first time! I'm still confused tho about Re planting in the no till. I know each mother will live at least 6 months to a year in the veg room eventually I'm going to have to flower them. But when u do flower and chop them down there should a few inch round stalk, should I cut it out and root ball or add bokashi maybe and let it eat away? I'd like to have a fast as possible turn around on those no till. But don't want to disturbe everything ive worked so hard to make. But I also don't wanna let the pot sit for 2 months just for the stem to rot and dissappear! Plz help me with this lol.
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    keepsake Well-Known Member

    Just plant seed
    Just plant a seed right next to the rootball. The new roots will grow and weave thru whatever.
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    Tyleb173rd Well-Known Member

    I did the rice wash but no film formed on top. There’s a few mold that what I’m looking for? It’s been 10 days.

    Greenthumbs256 Well-Known Member

    1510975783358-572927955.jpg And what's your guys take on bokashi, I'm worried about using it as a top dress with my cover crop, the white fungas just scares me even tho I've been told it's great lol.
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    DonTesla Well-Known Member

    I believe Hy already covered this in here, but, just plant next to the stem, and leave roots (microbe homes) in tact.. the roots can stay and add to soil texture / food web, and the stems will be free to remove with ease, in a couple weeks or so, by plucking them out. Read the whole thread, too, if you can, its nice and short and quite informative / useful.
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Are you talking about the oil absorber that NAPA sells? Very similar to calcined clay kitty litter.
    Worm castings contain chitinase, so top dressing with castings + a source of chitin like crab meal, will really do a number on gnats.

    DonTesla Well-Known Member

    Crab meal is alright too. Happy rocks is another name for the DE though, & they are sold in quality gardening stores.

    Diatomite refers to the light-colored sedimentary rock that is composed of the remains of one-celled algae known as diatoms. Diatomite is highly siliceous, has a low specific gravity, and it's very porous.
    Once crushed its usually called diatomaceous earth.

    There are many uses for food grade diatomaceous earth. It can nourish hair, skin and nails, rid your pets and home of critters, and keep your garden healthy.
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Make sure you get food grade DE.

    DonTesla Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the advice dude, but we already have a world class source, at least for small and medium amounts any way. We have several quality sources avail in stores up here, surprisingly, or some of the better stores anyway. Anyone can get their local store to start carrying better stuff if they ask, too, which is really cool.
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    Chunky Stool

    Chunky Stool Well-Known Member

    Yeah you mentioned it but I wanted to say it again because some of the cheap stuff at the co-op is contaminated.

    hyroot Well-Known Member

    I fill up a 5 gallon bucket 1/3 of the way with organic material. Then add the aem and the rest water.

    The more material you add the higher the ppm's will be for the most part.

    You can run it continuous too. After a month you can take a gallon out every week and replace it water until everything has broken down. Or strain and add the left overs to the next ferment

    I pretty much make bokashi, labs and flower power and thats it. Occasionally I make the citrus ferment (pest foliar). That lasts me a long time.

    My fav is equal amounts pumpkin, apples, banana, and Jamaican papaya, For flower

    I've used tomatoes, watermelon, mangos, and eggplants, etc....

    Heres the fav

    At 4 weeks. It smells really good. Like sweet passion fruit.


    For veg my worm castings are enough.



    Alpine Sap - benevolence x gorilla glue 4
    bred by me.


    Crémeberry - benevolence × blackberry cream ( greengenes cut ).

    Bred by me too

    I'm after lots of large trichome heads and bringing back old school kush flavors.

    I'm a hash head

    Gg4 icewax that I made.

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    hyroot Well-Known Member

    I topdress bokashi (imo) every 2 weeks in veg and flower. Once the mycelium mat develops. I topdress castings or compost


    1 part imo / 1 part carbon.

    Yes its a good thing. It provides bacteria and fungi and minerasl.Breaks down compost faster and speeds up soil cooking time. Improves vigor and yield.
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    hyroot Well-Known Member

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    hyroot Well-Known Member

    What color is the mold? If blue /green or black then throw it out and start over. It got contaminated.

    White mold is good. Make sure to cover the rice wash jar with 3 layers of coffee filters and just store in a cupboard or somewhere in the dark thats cool in temp. Not warm.
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    Tyleb173rd Well-Known Member

    Is this ok? 7DE57328-E8E4-45FC-A8F6-A96664D4D145.jpeg

    Greenthumbs256 Well-Known Member

    I know you know a lot more than me but I have ocd planting that much too the side will drive me nuts lmfao can I plant much closer to the center?

    hyroot Well-Known Member

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    hyroot Well-Known Member

    Yeah. Where ever is easy to plant without breaking up too much soil.

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