opinions on guard dog for my next outdoor grow, (im going to keep it after as a pet)

Vindicated

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Breed isn't all that important. It's more about the time you put into training and the individual dog's personality. Protection duty is one of the hardest things to ask of a dog. First you teach basic obedience while working on socialization, then you work on agility training, and after that's done you can start teaching it bite work and counter attacks, -- that's if you really want a protection dog.

However this requires a smart obedient dog with confidence and a high prey drive. You can also expect it to take at least two years to train your dog right and it's better to get them when they are young. Otherwise you'll need to work undo all the mistakes from their last owners.

I think it's great your looking at rescues though. I got my pup from a rescue when she was only eight weeks. I put her in puppy classes right away and made her an inside dog. I see lots of people bringing in Pits and German Shepherds because they wanted a family pet / guard dog. Most of the time these dogs have a mean bark but they are really just big babies and are only barking out of fear. All it takes is a few barks from a really confident Chihuahua and these dogs run behind their owners with tails tucked behind their legs.

Ideally, you should visit the dogs in person and play with them. See if they like to play fetch, tug, and will come when called. Get the dog that you naturally bond and are willing to keep no matter what. If you can, make them an inside dog and hand feed them for the first couple of months. You can always teach them to go outside, do a quick patrol, and bark at intruders.
 

a random screen name

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Why would you post a pic of where you're going to grow on a public forum? I'd take that down if i were you..


As far a guard dogs, Japanese Akita > anything anyone else can name.
 

MellowFarmer

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Rotties are the biggest sweetest most lovable dears until Anyone tries to hurt his master's friends or family. Love 'em!
 

Vindicated

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When I get a house with more property, I'd love to own a Spanish Mastiff or an Alaskan Malamute. You don't see them often and when you do it's like wow, that's a big intimidating dog.
 

gaztron3030

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Im with the rotties rule comments, i have a rottie x labrador and my best mates wont knock at my door anymore cos of her reaction. Shes the nicest dog ever once shes made it clear that this is HER TERRITORY!! I'd go with a breed with intimidating physicality and intelligence like my bitch. She would do anything for me and wont let anybody near me or the property without my ok.
I dont know about leaving dogs alone tied up out in the bush, apart from being cruel they would bark and whine drawing attention to themselves and your crop so you would want to be close to your area.
 

Jimmyjonestoo

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Why would you post a pic of where you're going to grow on a public forum? I'd take that down if i were you..


As far a guard dogs, Japanese Akita > anything anyone else can name.
I have an akita mix dog. He is loud as Hell and pretty scary lookin but he's a huge pussy. My red pit on the other hand is extremely protective. But if I was gonna get a dog for the sole purpose of leaving outside to protect the property I'd go with a "junk yard" type dog. A rott or bull mastiff. As someone said above tho no matter what breed you decide on its more than anything gonna be training it well. Training a guard dog is much harder than just sit and stay . Gonna require a lot of work man. Good luck.
 

jtprin

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I have a purebred Siberian Husky (who is fearless and huge at just seven months) and a German Shepherd/Husky mix who is pure muscle and intimidating as fuck, but scared because she was beat as a puppy before I got her. But the people who don't know that get super scared haha. She did, however, have to go away for like two weeks because she tore up this dude's hand because he tried grabbing her when she escaped. He was only trying to help but oh well lol.
 

Medicine4Me

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If you will be living on location you're being alerted quickly is most important. You already know about gun problems and growing. I think your best bet is to have dogs that are trained to not eat poisoned food/bait. Calling the cops to protect your grow is tricky to say the least. People can rip you off in a short period of time, but it does take at least five to ten minutes to cut down and haul off. My plan if I were outdoors would be to be alerted quickly so I could yell out, "Get the fuck off my property, the police have been called".

From that point, it's up to you as far as how you would enforce it further. I'd don't like reading about people that get ripped off also getting hurt.

Be safe...
 

notoriousxander

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Breed isn't all that important. It's more about the time you put into training and the individual dog's personality. Protection duty is one of the hardest things to ask of a dog. First you teach basic obedience while working on socialization, then you work on agility training, and after that's done you can start teaching it bite work and counter attacks, -- that's if you really want a protection dog.

However this requires a smart obedient dog with confidence and a high prey drive. You can also expect it to take at least two years to train your dog right and it's better to get them when they are young. Otherwise you'll need to work undo all the mistakes from their last owners.

I think it's great your looking at rescues though. I got my pup from a rescue when she was only eight weeks. I put her in puppy classes right away and made her an inside dog. I see lots of people bringing in Pits and German Shepherds because they wanted a family pet / guard dog. Most of the time these dogs have a mean bark but they are really just big babies and are only barking out of fear. All it takes is a few barks from a really confident Chihuahua and these dogs run behind their owners with tails tucked behind their legs.

Ideally, you should visit the dogs in person and play with them. See if they like to play fetch, tug, and will come when called. Get the dog that you naturally bond and are willing to keep no matter what. If you can, make them an inside dog and hand feed them for the first couple of months. You can always teach them to go outside, do a quick patrol, and bark at intruders.

if you dont socialize a dog wont that just make it naturally aggressive towards strangers?
 
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