OG Raskal's White Fire - 10 Beans from Start to Finish- Flood&Drain Hydro SCROG style
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Elite Nugz
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damn those are frosty,my last run,the fan leaves didnt get frost
Switch to hydro, drop your humidity and pull your lights back some... and extra frost shal come your way....
LoL. Thanks bro. I appriciate the tip. I dont meet up with people I meet online, unless their known by someone that I know personally. And so far, Im not recognizing any names on this site... so meeting up with someone here isnt on my todo list. lol.
You named 3 of the best spots in my opinion. If you guys want to check out some good underground genetics... try Cannazon.
I can vouche for sowamazingseeds got my cali con gear and some resin seeds gear no problem as fast as attitude. Take a look at OGraskal just came out with 2 new strains fire alien master and fire alien strawberry
All the breeders on there are official im just saying......
Sweet man... Good to know.
Yeah... I seen those new crosses a couple weeks ago. That guy never releases anything bad.
Elite Nugz
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good shit man thankss!! ya pm me as soon as possible i no i hated how i cudnt send messages at first !
YA dude i wanna no ur lineup and feeding schedule?? thanks bro
cud u just email me it ? lol
thanks again man ur plants really live up to ur name ELITE!
How many post do I need to get?? Like 100 or something??
Elite Nugz
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whats your thoughts on that same setup but with coco? i like the flavors im getting right now and i hear (i havent done it myself, im a novice seeking guidance), that the tastes and flavors are much more present in coco than found in hydroton or dwc. so my reasoning leads to coco, a step down from soil flavorwise but with hydro benefits. 4 plants per tray, gotta keep that number down..
If taste means that much to you... then coco will give you a stronger flavor. TLO style organics will give you the greatest flavor. Then the further you step away from that, the lower your taste gets. I have a nice feeding recipe that keeps everything nice and tasty. I could never mimic organic soil.... but my flavors are definitely not as bland as other hydro growers weed. The key is sugars, fermented yeast, molasses, carbs and other good stuff along those lines.
i would LOVE to run rdwc, thats ultimately what i want to able have. may try to build it myself
i was thinking coco but now im realizing how much more cleaner everything would be in hydroton... and its easily reusable.
Deep Water is reusable.... but there not real cheap. The biggest place where people go wrong on deep water, is them not maintaining there water tempratures. So almost all of the time, your going to need a water chiller to run those systems correctly, and chillers are expensive. The cleanliness of the system totally depends on the grower. I like to get things nice and dirty and let bacteria keep things clean for me.
I wouldnt do this. If you do, then your gonna need to change that reservoir out at least every 4 days. Probably every 3 days. If you didnt change them out that often, then your going to start to get imbalances, you'll have PH swings, and deficiencies in no time. Use a minimum of 55 gallons for each 4x4 table. 55 Gallons will last a table about 2 weeks, ut 2 weeks is pushing it unless you top off your reservoir with fresh nutes. I usually start to see deficiencies on about day 10 after a reservoir change. So changing out every week is ideal. But definately dont use 1 reservoir for 3 tables. You'll have problems for sure.
MrC does a great job over at cannazon, enjoying Top Shelf Seeds High Roller(LVPK X Urkle) atm
got a Sure Fire Seeds Firestarter on her second week of flower looking like a beauty. reacting perfectly to my topping.
Sweet man.... Yeah.. Im over there on Cannazon and its sister site. Awesome legit genetics from that place. Mr C. wont sell the beans there unless there tested by a group of people first and everyone approves of them. Good stuff.
KUShSOurSMOKEr
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im pretty sure yA!!! hurrry up get 10 more postss
pm me when u do my dude ! thankss elite!
KUShSOurSMOKEr
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MY DUDE MADE IT SO U COULD PRIVATE MESSAGE NOW
Elite Nugz
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LoL. Man... that took me a bunch of post, just to be able to PM. Cool.... now I dont have to cruise around commenting on everything I see anymore.
KUShSOurSMOKEr
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what humiditys do u get in ur grow room and also how far do u keep ur lights from ur plants ??
Elite Nugz
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In Veg I try to keep my humidity between 50% - 70%. In flowering, I try to stay between 35% - 55%.
My lights are 1,000 watt HPS. My reflectors are also air cooled reflectors, but I take the glass off, so there no longer air cooled. With glass off, I usually keep them 2-3 feet from the top of the canopy. If the glass is on and my vent fan is pulling air through it... then I'll have it 1-2 feet from the tops of the plants.
Light distance totally depends on heat and light intensity. Too much light can stress your plants out. Too much heat will do the same. You keep your lights too far, and you'll lose yield and bud density. So you gotta find that happy spot. Everyone's is different, but generally speaking... 2 feet is a safe distance for just about any High Intensity light setup. If we're talking florescent... the your plants can practically be touching the bulbs.
KUShSOurSMOKEr
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nice thankss so muchh! Ya i notice some times my top colas arent as frosty as lower bud sites (even ones covered by fan leafs)
is this because i have the light to close i have a 1000w daystar hps and im runnin it about 14 inches away ?
My humidity gets 40-50 day and like 75 night is this ok ?
Elite Nugz
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The buds farthest from the light are always going to be the most frosty, but they'll also be less dense. 14 inch doesnt sound too bad, as long as you have a vent fan pulling air through it. If you dont, then you should move the light back a little further.
Your humidity sounds good, but I would be careful with that high night time humidity. Powdery Mildew can easily form at night with 75% humidity. That also depends on the strain. Some strains are more resistant to Powdery Mildew then others. So if you havent gotten any, then you should be fine.... but if I were you, I would try to find a way to bring that humidity down a little at night.
KUShSOurSMOKEr
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Thanks alot!! Ya ive always notice like my corner plants that arent even close to under the light get frosty and fat quick and there like 2 and a haf or 3 ft away from the light hella in the corner but the 1000w still catches the canopy for sure!! Is what i noticed alot!
Thanks alot elite? Have u ever ran soil ?
Thanks alot elite? Have u ever ran soil ?
Elite Nugz
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No problem.
Yup... I run a big outdoor crop 2 times a year. I've done indoor soil setups a few times, but since Im a production grower, hydro is the best way to go. If I wasnt worried about yield and bag appeal... then I would grow soil. But with Hydro, I have complete control over the plants. With soil your control is limited.
KUShSOurSMOKEr
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Ya ur right where u from elite?
Elite Nugz
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Southern Cali....
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What brand name is your chiller? I'm assuming u use one, or one per Res?
Iv been thinking, what do u think of adding 12in airstones on the bottom of the flood table under the hydroton. Air pump will be on the same timer as the flood so when its flooded, plants are eating/drinking like in a dwc. Clever? Stupid?
Iv been thinking, what do u think of adding 12in airstones on the bottom of the flood table under the hydroton. Air pump will be on the same timer as the flood so when its flooded, plants are eating/drinking like in a dwc. Clever? Stupid?
Elite Nugz
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I dont use one. Its not needed for my setup. The heat from my lights keeps the canopy at a certain temperature, while the rest of the room stays cooler. My canopy will be at 80, while down on the floor my reservoir will be under 70 degrees. So no need for a cooler, luckily.
Air stones in a flood table are unnecessary. Totally unnecessary. The benefits of flood and drain with hydroton, or rockwool, is the large amounts of oxygen the roots gets. Hydroton is the best, but rockwool is more forgiving. So as long as you have an good air stone in your reservoir with a decent air pump, then your nutrient solution should have plenty of oxygen already in it. Between floods the roots gets tons of oxygen and while their being flooded, there is tons of oxygen in the water... So adding air stones to the table is really unnecessary. Now if your doing Deep Water... then add as many air stones as you can. The roots totally depends on the air stones to get there oxygen in deep water.
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