Obama's Power Grab to Gain Control of Private Property

dude, thats not even cool.

im talking historical facts, not slanderous insinuations.

dont let the boneheads get sidetracked on ad-hominem. they have finally started putting their statements into arguments which can be supported or refuted with facts.

dont derail the Crazy-Train.

Tom's brother in law had Vivien institutionalized for Hysteria. The family gave Tom power of attorney over Vivien's estate until she died 7 years later. That's the historical facts.
 
Tom's brother in law had Vivien institutionalized for Hysteria. The family gave Tom power of attorney over Vivien's estate until she died 7 years later. That's the historical facts.

but it is irrelevant to the subject at hand which is the political affiliations and beliefs of various authors claimed by "anarcho-________ist" Crypto-Marxists while denying their Marxism.
 
Progressives have all the easy answers.
1.jpg
2.jpg
3.jpg
4.jpg
5.jpg




best juicer http://www.amazon.com/s/?_encoding=...nkCode=ur2&tag=mbox0f-20&url=search-alias=aps

Oakley Sunglasses

strangers have all the best candy, especially when posting adverts for consumer goods of dubious provenance.

lets all pile into the stranger's windowless panel van and help him look for his lost puppy...

OOooh! look, a tear-stained air-mattress and dogeared pornography! sweet!
 
Orwell bashed Bolsheviks and Stalinists, not Marxists in general.

he was intensely interested in proletarian movements, joined several marxist organizations, and attended Communist Party meetings in England (though he was not impressed with their leader's Jew-Bashing and scapegoating)

not a marxist? he never signed his name to the doted line but he was hardly a foe of the communist ideal.

Orwell's political ideology is nearly as veiled as AC's though MUCH more consistent. he seems to have eschewed labels in favour of principles, but he was decidedly Pro-Marxist in general, but anti-authoritarianism in specific.

unlike Bertie Russel who LOVED Marxism, while despising the Bolsheviks for their failure to remain pure in their revolutionary ideals.

but then thats why you boneheads are focusing on Orwell, he is a much harder cat to slap a label on (though this is a result of his curious political contradictions, rather than a deliberate obfuscation through slippery language)

In a book that mentions Orwell fighting for the POUM expressly notes that it was his experience with authoritarianism within the movement that pushed him towards his later libertarian views to eventually embrace democratic socialism. Bertrand Russel also expressed interest in Soviet ideas, but after visiting Lenin's hell hole he became a democratic socialist as well.
You can bend the details all you like Keynes, it doesn't change the fact that your statements about marxism and marxists are absurd to anyone who studies politics. Why can't you ever admit when you're wrong? Why do you feel the need to bend the truth?
 
but it is irrelevant to the subject at hand which is the political affiliations and beliefs of various authors claimed by "anarcho-________ist" Crypto-Marxists while denying their Marxism.

Very relevant. Che mass murdered in the name of Marxist doctrine. Eliot locked up his wife so when he chilled with the likes of fellow Marxists such as Huxley and Russel he'd get embarrassed because of his Hysterical wife. These heroes, even your MLK, had Marxist ties. MLK stole over half his doctorial thesis. But when it was proven after his death, the current Marxist leaders said it would be considered racist to tell the truth. The only way to spread Marxism is to lie about its opportunism and slander capitalistic opportunism.
 
In a book that mentions Orwell fighting for the POUM expressly notes that it was his experience with authoritarianism within the movement that pushed him towards his later libertarian views to eventually embrace democratic socialism. Bertrand Russel also expressed interest in Soviet ideas, but after visiting Lenin's hell hole he became a democratic socialist as well.
You can bend the details all you like Keynes, it doesn't change the fact that your statements about marxism and marxists are absurd to anyone who studies politics. Why can't you ever admit when you're wrong? Why do you feel the need to bend the truth?

"Sociology is not a science" -kkkynes
 
"Sociology is not a science" -kkkynes

Sociology, psychology, anthropology and political science are considered "soft science" where conjecture is used more than reliable data. You state an educated opinion as fact and call it scientific. You get to make up variables to make your hypothesis work.

Soft sciences are good at using hard science to try to legitimize their conjectures but still, a chemist or physicist would agree more with Kynes than you.

Sociology is as much science today as astrology was yesterday.
 
Sociology, psychology, anthropology and political science are considered "soft science" where conjecture is used more than reliable data. You state an educated opinion as fact and call it scientific. You get to make up variables to make your hypothesis work.

Soft sciences are good at using hard science to try to legitimize their conjectures but still, a chemist or physicist would agree more with Kynes than you.

Sociology is as much science today as astrology was yesterday.

You need to evolve from the neck up.

Sociology is not a pseudoscience. Just because you disagree with the conclusions does not make it so. Your disdain for anthropology, sociology and political science is the reason why you come off as an idiot on a politics forum.
 
You need to evolve from the neck up.

Sociology is not a pseudoscience. Just because you disagree with the conclusions does not make it so. Your disdain for anthropology, sociology and political science is the reason why you come off as an idiot on a politics forum.

Why do you have to lie to try to win an argument? Show me where I called them a pseudoscience? I called them a soft science as they are universally recognized as such. I have no disdain for them, have repeatedly used them in my line of work, but the difference between us is I recognize them for what they are, soft sciences.

Link to where I said they are pseudoscience or you are a lying fuck. Prove they are not a soft science or you are also an ignorant lying fuck.

You would think after your false dichotomy because they are not anonymous would have taught you to quit trying to be something you are not (intelligent sounding). I guess you really aren't bright enough to realize you aren't that bright.
 
Why do you have to lie to try to win an argument? Show me where I called them a pseudoscience? I called them a soft science as they are universally recognized as such. I have no disdain for them, have repeatedly used them in my line of work, but the difference between us is I recognize them for what they are, soft sciences.

Link to where I said they are pseudoscience or you are a lying fuck. Prove they are not a soft science or you are also an ignorant lying fuck.

You would think after your false dichotomy because they are not anonymous would have taught you to quit trying to be something you are not (intelligent sounding). I guess you really aren't bright enough to realize you aren't that bright.

Mhmm...

So that comparison to astrology (pseudoscience as ever) wasn't meant to convey your disdain...

You may not have meant to convey this. But it's exactly what you did convey. Don't go crying in your cornflakes just because that's how it read. Sociology has absolutely no comparison to astrology. Astrology has always been pseudoscience. Astrology has never been less than a divination. Your defense is feeble. I picked up exactly what you dropped.

I suggest you evolve from the neck up.
 
In a book that mentions Orwell fighting for the POUM expressly notes that it was his experience with authoritarianism within the movement that pushed him towards his later libertarian views to eventually embrace democratic socialism. Bertrand Russel also expressed interest in Soviet ideas, but after visiting Lenin's hell hole he became a democratic socialist as well.
You can bend the details all you like Keynes, it doesn't change the fact that your statements about marxism and marxists are absurd to anyone who studies politics. Why can't you ever admit when you're wrong? Why do you feel the need to bend the truth?

yes. bertie russel and orwell didnt care much for the authoritarian nature of the various Marxist regimes they saw, and yet they never lost their love of the Communist Utopian Dream.

why must you pretend that Marxism exists solely in the realm of the Authoritarian Socialist State, which is, as Marx explained, a necessary evil on the road to Communist Utopia.

rejecting the evils of the Socialist Interregnum does not turn a Marxist into a Libertarian, it means the objector is Counter-Revolutionary, not a capitalist.
a great many Marxists who were not afraid to wear the title (like Trotsky and Lenin) rejected the excesses of Bolshevism without rejecting Marxism.

but they did get assassins from Stalin on their doorsteps.

i for one dont mind a little well regulated, carefully managed Socialism in my capitalism, but anyone who declares capitalism must be destroyed IS spouting Marxist Rhetoric.

and that would be You.

and Orwell, and Russel, and Chomp Chomp, and of course AC.

why must you lie about Marxism to try and dodge the label you have so rightly earned? dont hide your beliefs in shame, OWN IT.
 
"Sociology is not a science" -kkkynes

so instead of supporting your claim that the POUM was a "Libertarian Militia", you dodge to another UNRELATED discussion, and select an out of context statement as proof that i must be mad, wrong or lying.

see junior, thats called an Ad Hominem.

your statement that the POUM was a "Libertarian Militiia" (a phrase NOBODY has ever applied to the Trotskyite POUM but you), you demonstrate what you think "Libertarian" means.

it does not mean what you think it means, CLEARLY. even "God Here" stated that the POUM was authoritarian in an unsourced allusion to an unnamed book...

even Comrade "God Here" doesnt try to assrape words into submission like you do, and he is on YOUR SIDE.

orwell and russel may have been anti-stalinists and anti-fascists, but they were NOT anti-communists. they were PRO-Communists. they just wanted soft gentle Marxism, not the uniquely Russian Cabbage and Old Boot Leather Boiled in Beet Juice, or Mao's Seven Treasures Noodles with Iron Ricebowl, or Mama Mussolini's Old World Style Pasta with Corporatism, or the Original German Flavour dripping with sausage grease and sauerkraut, they wanted something with less authoritarianism, and fewer bodies being hurled at barricades.

but they still wanted the same Marxist Utopian Dream.
 
By way of Executive Order, and without approval from Congress, the EPA's draft rule redefines “waters of the United States” under the CWA to include all natural and man-made tributary streams, lakes, ponds and wetlands that affect downstream navigable waters. The proposed rule is so broad that it effectively gives the EPA regulatory control over all man-made and natural bodies of water in the U.S., including those on private property.

The EPA is rushing the approval process without thorough peer review of the supporting data. The proposed rule relies heavily on a draft report that has not yet been peer-reviewed or completed. Instead, the EPA submitted the proposed rule to the White House for approval on the same day that it provided the draft scientific assessment to its Science Advisory Board (SAB) for peer review. This is a clear attempt to fast-track the approval process without independent review.


The EPA operates under a specific Title in the Code of Federal Regulations. An NPRM (notice of proposed rulemaking) is a required step in adding/modifying the Code of Federal Regulations and is meant to give the public and anybody else a chance to voice comments on and.. get this.. REVIEW IT and REVISE it. It is NOT a fast track around anything, nor does it automagically turn into an amendment to the CFR's. it is a NOTICE of a PROPOSED rule.
 
so instead of supporting your claim that the POUM was a "Libertarian Militia", you dodge to another UNRELATED discussion, and select an out of context statement as proof that i must be mad, wrong or lying.

see junior, thats called an Ad Hominem.

your statement that the POUM was a "Libertarian Militiia" (a phrase NOBODY has ever applied to the Trotskyite POUM but you), you demonstrate what you think "Libertarian" means.

it does not mean what you think it means, CLEARLY. even "God Here" stated that the POUM was authoritarian in an unsourced allusion to an unnamed book...

even Comrade "God Here" doesnt try to assrape words into submission like you do, and he is on YOUR SIDE.

orwell and russel may have been anti-stalinists and anti-fascists, but they were NOT anti-communists. they were PRO-Communists. they just wanted soft gentle Marxism, not the uniquely Russian Cabbage and Old Boot Leather Boiled in Beet Juice, or Mao's Seven Treasures Noodles with Iron Ricebowl, or Mama Mussolini's Old World Style Pasta with Corporatism, or the Original German Flavour dripping with sausage grease and sauerkraut, they wanted something with less authoritarianism, and fewer bodies being hurled at barricades.

but they still wanted the same Marxist Utopian Dream.

Yet again you demonstrate that you have not read Orwell. You talk like you have but you haven't. The M at the end of POUM is plural. It was an acronym for the Spanish republican forces. They were backed by the Soviet communists. Hemmingway was a Marxist though. I never said POUM was libertarian. I said Orwell joined a libertarian militia. Stop twisting. Besides Orwell wasn't a marxist.
 
Yet again you demonstrate that you have not read Orwell. You talk like you have but you haven't. The M at the end of POUM is plural. It was an acronym for the Spanish republican forces. They were backed by the Soviet communists. Hemmingway was a Marxist though. I never said POUM was libertarian. I said Orwell joined a libertarian militia. Stop twisting. Besides Orwell wasn't a marxist.

Partido Obero de Unificacion Marxista

The Workers' Party of Marxist Unification (Spanish: Partido Obrero de Unificación Marxista, POUM; Catalan: Partit Obrer d'Unificació Marxista) was a Spanish communist political party formed during the Second Republic and mainly active around the Spanish Civil War. It was formed by the fusion of the Trotskyist Communist Left of Spain (Izquierda Comunista de España, ICE) and the Workers and Peasants' Bloc (BOC, affiliated with the Right Opposition) against the will of Leon Trotsky, with whom the former broke. The writer George Orwell served with the party and witnessed the Stalinist repression of the movement, which would form his anti-authoritarian ideas in later life.[SUP][1][/SUP]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POUM

previous citations, orwell's own works, and EVERY source examined say the same thing.

a Trotskyite Marxist Communist Party.

Orwell and Russell were outspoken critics of Marxism. Orwell joined a libertarian militia in Spain. Chomsky isn't a marxist either but a libertarian socialist.

You're a clown.

The POUM was the militia he joined.


Therefore you are asserting that in fact the POUM WAS A "LIBERTARIAN MILITIA"

It's really not that difficult to understand.
 
The POUM was the militia he joined.

Therefore you are asserting that in fact the POUM WAS A "LIBERTARIAN MILITIA"

It's really not that difficult to understand.

Except that the M in POUM is plural. Therefore no I didn't assert that. Big red letters don't make your bs true. Read Homage to Catalonia by George Orwell and then you won't have to be so full of shit.

Buenaventura Durruti was a libertarian too.

You should read Orwell's books before you insist that you know more about him than someone who has read them.

Unless you want to seem like a clown. I didn't read the rest of your post.
 
Back
Top