Nutrients For Noobs... Making It Through Your First Grow.

GibbsIt89

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Have you noticed the average age/mentality level of a lot of the people asking the same questions every time? This is the internet...
I am 25 but man do I respect my elders and people with experience, not people who hold their noses in the air picking at peoples advice when there is nothing wrong with it. Usually this is a younger kid who all he does is read and repeat info without experiencing it himself, a troll of any age, or a stubborn old timer who has nothing better to do but follow everyones shit lol. Or its a woman.. I kid ladies haha.
 

TheYokel

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I am 25 but man do I respect my elders and people with experience, not people who hold their noses in the air picking at peoples advice when there is nothing wrong with it. Usually this is a younger kid who all he does is read and repeat info without experiencing it himself, a troll of any age, or a stubborn old timer who has nothing better to do but follow everyones shit lol. Or its a woman.. I kid ladies haha.
I meant that for the guy saying "you sound like you are talking to a kid"... 9/10 times... I expect that I am. No offense to you, or anyone reading this post/thread. In no way did I mean that toward you.

To the rest, if my OP offended you, you take shit way too seriously.

And if you think I didn't give enough info... that is because you probably have a few seasons under your belt and know a few things new growers won't.

I guarantee, I gave enough info that half the new growers that read it will *still* be confused. So no, to those saying I didn't go deep enough... I don't think that's the case.

Between what was posted in the OP, and what has been said in the posts afterwards... there is plenty here to get someone started. No need to go into much more for the first grow.

And for the "use hard water!" posts saying RO isn't needed...

What if their water is highly chlorinated, they have rusted pipes, or they have metallic leaching going on that they don't know about? Start with pure water. You will get pure results. Save the rest for later.
 

Uncle Ben

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I've always used tap water and scoffed at the RO drills and pH adjustment drills. Most tap water is fine and contains minerals that may be beneficial to plants like Ca and Mg. I was only 1 mile from the water treatment plant. Translation - had the highest rate of inline chlorination in the city as opposed to the end of the distribution line 30 miles away. Many a time I filled up a kitchen sink and watered from the bottom up. Plants love it.

I also received a monthly water analysis thru the mail. pH was usually around 8.2 and the TDS was up there.
 

whitebb2727

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It's too late for me to edit this, but I wish I would have put this very simple info in the post when I was writing it.

For anyone wondering a ghetto way to measure out your milliliters without an eye-dropper or syringe...

1/4 teaspoon is about 1.25 milliliters.

1 tablespoon is 5 milliliters.

If you want to add 3ml, just add three not-quite-full 1/4 teaspoons of nutrients.

I am assuming most people have access to a cheap ass set of measuring spoons. If not, go to the dollar store. Or do what I do and buy 5 of those cheap plastic eyedroppers every time you go to the hydro store. I get them for like a dime a piece, or even free sometimes. Which brings me to my next point...

Get to know your shop and your shop owner. I can't emphasize how important that can be. Not only can you land some good discounts and free samples, but if there is something they don't have in stock you want, they might special order it for you. There are so many good reasons to have a good relationship with your store owner, I shouldn't have to name them all.

And if at all possible, shop local. Not only can you use cash, which means no paper trail... but you are supporting a local business. If possible, ALWAYS support your local businesses. And I don't mean Wal-Mart. Even if you are paying an extra $1 per jug of Botanicare, it's worth it. Eventually you will start getting a discount (even if it's just no tax, 10%, etc), and you are keeping a business alive.

I can't tell you how many emergency runs I have had to make to my local grow shop. I will happily pay a fraction more, just to make sure my local shop is available to me. If you need some emergency neem oil or BT spray and Home Depot doesn't have any... you really don't have 4 days to wait for shipping from Amazon.

Long story short, shop local. You will be happy you did.
5ml is one teaspoon not a table spoon.

Please be correct, your going to cause someone to kill something.

Do not use kitchen spoons to measure, they are not accurate.

You can get 5 and 10 ml kids medicine droppers for free at most pharmacies, just ask.
 
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GrowerGoneWild

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I am 25 but man do I respect my elders and people with experience, not people who hold their noses in the air picking at peoples advice when there is nothing wrong with it.
Hey you got respect for me, ya got a nice grow going.. in fact your grow looks to be much more complex than the OP's that has a few going under CFL. He could learn from you, because you show a higher level of growing skillset.
 

GrowerGoneWild

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I've always used tap water and scoffed at the RO drills and pH adjustment drills. Most tap water is fine and contains minerals that may be beneficial to plants like Ca and Mg. I was only 1 mile from the water treatment plant. Translation - had the highest rate of inline chlorination in the city as opposed to the end of the distribution line 30 miles away. Many a time I filled up a kitchen sink and watered from the bottom up. Plants love it.
Pretty much sums it up.. RO in dirt is not necessary.. Cal/mag is so abused.. geeze.. I grew for many years in hydro with no cal problems using plain water. Epsoms was the only thing I needed to fortify the magnesium content... Might be a botanicare thing, I did notice more cal/mag problems when using that product.

I use greywater from my sink, for my orange tree at my house down south. And the tap water I have there is some gnarly stuff.. So many oranges, Id rather just throw them at the neighbors.
 

GibbsIt89

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Hey you got respect for me, ya got a nice grow going.. in fact your grow looks to be much more complex than the OP's that has a few going under CFL. He could learn from you, because you show a higher level of growing skillset.
??? Did u mean to quote me here? I don't understand sorry
 
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