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oh well good for you =) u got a couple plants that have worked out for you. still a dick move, starting dumb arguments over the internet is just dumb, and i bet if u had someone to walk you through growing on ur first grow all ur plants would b alot better by now. so if u think what riddleme is sayn is wrong, dont read his thread. ur not goona change his mind obviously. ur just making ur fingers tired.....

my hps grows shit all over ur little cfl grows..i probably pull more weight off a branch then u pull off ur whole plant

jumboSWISHER said:

and yet bragging like this just makes you look more and more like a dumb little kid. r you overcompensating for something? ur just giving ur self bad karma, probbly goona end up with nut cancer or something. atleast with our "little" cfls grows we have our self pride and dont have to talk shit over the internet. dont matter how much weight you pull off ur plants, if ur born a jackass, ur still a jackass no matter what ur plants look like.

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who's bragging u said something about how i grow and put a pic up of my plants that i had got for free that were already dying..soo i was showing u a pick of some of my last grows...and as far as what i said The truth hurts

i never said you started talking shit, i said something like if u question his methods dont listen, and you started poppn off with some dumb shit bout how ur HPS grows more on one branch then my whole plant, i never said a single disrespectful thing untill you did, exactly as you said, im just putting in my two cents in. and the only reason why i replied to you at all is because kids like you just piss me off, calln me "son" "square" jus ur whole vibe comes off as a dumb rich little wanna b kid that probly grew up gettn beat up n made fun of. you were sayn wut u thought to riddleme, so i said wut i thought to you and u get all pissy and tryn to act all superior cuz youve grown a few decent plants. things like this just really piss me off, im really not tryn to squabble over sum dumb stuff on a web site its just hard not to say something bak to someone as ingnorant as you. but wutever bro, ima smoke a fat one n go to bed hope u have fun and good luck in life with all this bad karma

HomeGrown420baby said:

who's bragging u said something about how i grow and put a pic up of my plants that i had got for free that were already dying..soo i was showing u a pick of some of my last grows...and as far as what i said The truth hurts

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and as for that, i didnt realize you had other plants, i wus jus stating a fact that your plants arent the healthiest and dont bash someones idea if youve never tried it. then the shit started flowing outta ur mouth..

HomeGrown420baby said:

nevermind i saw ur lil cfl grow haha..y u grow with cfls mother nature would give her plants more light then that?

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ok if you actually read the whole thread then how about you answer the magic question I asked earlier to anybody that does not want to do the work???

You seem to know what mother nature would do which is my main mantra so please enlighten us, answer the question???

srry bout fuckn withur thread riddleme, that jus got me heated lol BAK to learning for me but forreal my bad
i successfully made my self look like an asshole lol gotta b good at something tho right? hopefully growing for now on tho haha

im thinkin that the basis of all the myths on flushing come from the idea that u let ur plant runn off its stored energy and nutes the last 2 weeks of flowering, and the plant will feed itself the nutes it needs. BUT if you already have the nutes properly balanced, theres no difference then if u flush or not. except usung alot of unneeded water. people think the nutes you buy make your bud taste bad from all the chemicals, when really if your plant is properly fed, it has the same amount of chemicals in it, and taste and smell totally depend on genetics and your curing methods. it will have the exact same nutes in the plant. flushing just brings your soil to "netrual" with no added nutes or products. i think lol still could b totally wrong haha

jumboSWISHER said:

srry bout fuckn withur thread riddleme, that jus got me heated lol BAK to learning for me but forreal my bad
i successfully made my self look like an asshole lol gotta b good at something tho right? hopefully growing for now on tho haha

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all the great threads I have read have a bit of drama in them

there will always be haters and naysayers

best not to give em to much space to argue simply by asking the right questions (which you soon will know)

For instance did ya notice that this thread has over 1700 views and not one person has tried to answer the magic question ???

Most folks have no clue, they simply keep repeatin what they have read or heard, don't know why and are to lazy to go find out.

Some folks get lucky and get a plant going and hang in there to the end, get a decent harvest and think they have it down. A member just posted in my visitor messages (profile page) that he had a successful first grow then several that failed and wished he had read this thread earlier.

hard to gauge success with out understanding the whys

I don't mind the haters, oh sure I get frustrated when anyone closes thier mind and refuses to learn (had a bit of that last night) but not gonna stop me from helpin those that want help, that keep an open mind so they can see what they are learning.

Like Goofy said it is clickin for him and a few of you are takin this seriously and going out and looking for the answers, I love helpin/teachin folks that are hungry to learn. It's what makes teaching a rewarding thing

I said it in my grow journal last night there are over 1350 views of it with only like 70 post, Matilda is famous now and folks are watching, for me that is merely a tool to help get the word out.

I could easily write a book and sell it but I would rather have lots of folks growin and spreading the MJ love around the world. The more high quality MJ we put out there the less folks can charge. the prices will come down so med patients can afford it and if not then I at least make it better for em to grow thier own, they can copy what I have done for the price of less than oz, why I have added so much detail to the journal.

let the naysayers march to thier drumbeat

and remember LESS IS MORE

could it be that flushing induces a nutrient depravation in the rootzone causing the plant to feed its self, but when you flush you make it impossible for the plant to do its metabolic processes because you flushed the "immobile" elements out of the roots,witch causes serious stress to the roots and as you say "keeping it green" becomes impossible

I just took this this morning, had her out to water and wanted to try to get a good perspective pic, I can't wait till I get my new camera
the quality of the pic sucks but you'll get the idea

I think this might help the naysayers take another look???

Remember folks that is growing under one small cfl (ok medium cfl 65 watt)

and it's only the 6th week of flower

naysayers tell me how I need more light??? or better yet why I need more light???

I will repeat A great grow is THE SUM OF ALL PARTS, not any one by itself

damn man shes coming along beautifully and as for the magic question, i think your the only person that knows lol iv been on just a bout every search engine i kno of and cant even find how the plant uses lumens, only that you need 2000-3000 per square foot and u get more vigerous growth with more lumens... lol

it truely baffels me that i still cant find any thing on the subject of why you need 3000 lumens lol im guessing it has something to do with the plants needs a certain amount of light penatration to create enough energy to make chemical changes. but wow... this really should b posted everywhere, i cant believer NOBODY knows lol

jumboSWISHER said:

lol

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At this point I'm not worried about giving away the answer cause no naysayer will read this far

the guy you were arguing with stopped after just a few pages and I had one guy that scoffed at the mantra WHAT WOULD MOTHER NATURE DO?

Soon as he saw that he dismissed the thread and I thought damn seems to me that no one knows more about growing plants than Mother Nature, I was actually kinda surprised by his statement.

Anyway as we close this class down I want to ask everyone that is/has participated (in a positive fashion) to chime in one last time, with your thoughts and questions. Once that has happened I will ask the final question (give the final assignment)

In the mean time I have 2 great reads for you, I found them this morning (can't ever seem to stop researching)

this one in advanced forum
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/222916-how-plants-communicate.html

Edit, here I found it interesting that plants give off oders to protect themselves and warn each other
Matilda has no odor what so ever (must not be in danger) wouldn't it be cool if a perfect enviroment was the real answer to odor control?????

and this one in a reg garden forum
http://www.dirtdoctor.com/newforum/root/needing-bulk-peat-moss-t8335.html

note I found it funny that the Canadian pamphlet she refers to is what made me add it to my soil

riddleme said:

At this point I'm not worried about giving away the answer cause no naysayer will read this far

the guy you were arguing with stopped after just a few pages and I had one guy that scoffed at the mantra WHAT WOULD MOTHER NATURE DO?

Soon as he saw that he dismissed the thread and I thought damn seems to me that no one knows more about growing plants than Mother Nature, I was actually kinda surprised by his statement.

Anyway as we close this class down I want to ask everyone that is/has participated (in a positive fashion) to chime in one last time, with your thoughts and questions. Once that has happened I will ask the final question (give the final assignment)

In the mean time I have 2 great reads for you, I found them this morning (can't ever seem to stop researching)

this one in advanced forum
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/222916-how-plants-communicate.html

and this one in a reg garden forum
http://www.dirtdoctor.com/newforum/root/needing-bulk-peat-moss-t8335.html

note I found it funny that the Canadian pamphlet she refers to is what made me add it to my soil

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So anyway. Nice job Swisher and goofy for participating. Although I have not chimed in on these last questions, but i have been following. I have learned from the answeres you guys gave.

I gotta tell ya that my current grow has benefited from the knowledge learned from this thread. I have put my 4 girls through some crap in the last month but they are still going. Only problems I had whas when I folowed along with the rest of the sheep.(Marketing Hype as UB put's it.)

I have not posted them here because of the embarresment they were, but I feel like the way they are coming back with you guys help should be put up. Maybe you guy's won think so but I do.

Anyway back to work, just eating some lunch.

Peace

Big

i have learnd in the past 2 days on my own that if you are going to make any radical changes to the plants life style you nned to do them seperate like 3- 4 days apart so you give the plant time to resspond to each change.......as you know i have done several thingxs to my plant and now one of them has a couple leaves with drie dead tips.... still green as the plant but the tip off the 1st node has died and pretty much turnned to dust when i touched it.......

i dont know if it was that i bumped up the nute or cause i added co2(i dont know these answers already) and im sure i could look it up but would rather keep the related to going to jail serches to a minimum

all im saying is go ahead and experiment with em but do it little at a time and sepersate so you can tell if there is something causing a problem.....

bigman4270 said:

So anyway. Nice job Swisher and goofy for participating. Although I have not chimed in on these last questions, but i have been following. I have learned from the answeres you guys gave.

I gotta tell ya that my current grow has benefited from the knowledge learned from this thread. I have put my 4 girls through some crap in the last month but they are still going. Only problems I had whas when I folowed along with the rest of the sheep.(Marketing Hype as UB put's it.)

I have not posted them here because of the embarresment they were, but I feel like the way they are coming back with you guys help should be put up. Maybe you guy's won think so but I do.

Anyway back to work, just eating some lunch.

Peace

Big

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hey man, see these 2 little pathetic plants? if u look at my album you will see 2 huge (well IMO huge lol) flowering plants =) these pics are those plants on day 45!!! dont b ashamed, just remember as long as there alive your doing better than alot of other people

so basically the only question i can think of is, my lemon haze plant is about 3 foot 2 inch, and my bagseed plant is about 2 foot 6 inches, its topped has 11 tops =) but would my plants yeild more if i took my lights and made like 3 or 4 seperate little reflector hoods so i can get light to the bottom nugs? or should i jus let em be and not worry about it? im just not sure how the whole flowering process goes, iv never seen a flowering plant first hand.

The less shadows on your plant the better. If you can surround her with the same wattage you had over her you will have more yeild and more dense budding sites.