New beginnings part 2......

rarebreed619

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Ok there doing 100% :-) def want to snag some male sacks off that phantom cookie. Has very nice branching structure. Took clones off of the og kush #1 and #2.
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Skipped a day for feeding. Mixed up a fresh batch this morning an 3 part 6ml per gal and b52 20ml.

Ph 5.8
Ppm 450
Rm 87
Rh% 55
Co2 1400ppm

Hopefully they take the higher feed. Gonna start doing feed feed water 3 times a week. Nodes are starting to alternate, Gonna flip them soon.

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rarebreed619

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Still wrapping my mind around what could have caused my early problems. Trying to put my thumb on it and make sure it dosnt happen again.

Ditched the big rez and went back to 5 gal bucket which I freshly filter r/o and mix fresh nutes before each feeding.

Came to the conclusion that it wasn't my nutes being to hot as they are taking 450ppm very well now and could even up it.

Thought light was to close ruled that out as I have it dropped about 2ft maby 2.5ft.

So I'm thinking it could be the sm90 (which I stopped using) was throwing my ph off. Than I checked and cleaned my ph probe which was extremely dirty and recalibrated. (Make sure prob never sits on bottom of rez)

Please feel free to wrap your mind around it also, just babbling on and think a lot.

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Ok well chopped the male, but not before taking a clone for future breeding projects. Gonna flip them tonight as I forgot about stretch during flower and don't want them getting to big. They are all about a month old so. Swapping bulb and setting timer and we are go :-D

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Ok setup a 4x2x7 lighthouse tent w/ my modified 4ft 8 bulb t5ho cut down to 7 so it would fit. Using it for my mother clone tent for now as I flipped my babies tonight. Hopeing the remaining phantom and 2 og kushes are female. Should have a harvest by or around xmas. So let the show begin :-)1383532335451.jpg

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ii dP ii

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damn you just flipped and harvest will be that quick? is running hydro really THAT much faster?

man maybe when I get a few soil grows under my belt I'll try my hand at it.... that's really quick.
 
rarebreed619

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ii dP ii said:
damn you just flipped and harvest will be that quick? is running hydro really THAT much faster?

man maybe when I get a few soil grows under my belt I'll try my hand at it.... that's really quick.
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Well there a month old, an nodes are alternating already and some are pre flowering on 18/6. And are all about a foot tall give or take. Forgot to account for stretch in flower so I decided to flip em.

Hydro is quicker because of the oxygen the roots receive. Soil imo is a lot slower because of lack of oxygen. And I believe when u run co2 and high temps finshes them out quicker, don't take my word that's just what I have read.

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ii dP ii

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so from seed to harvest in 8-10wks, basically. whereas soil takes 8-12+ weeks to fully finish FLOWERING only, not counting however long you vegged it for.

how much stretch do you expect out of them?
 
rarebreed619

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ii dP ii said:
so from seed to harvest in 8-10wks, basically. whereas soil takes 8-12+ weeks to fully finish FLOWERING only, not counting however long you vegged it for.

how much stretch do you expect out of them?
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Usually it they are mature enough to flower it's that quick. Really depends on strain. Most strains mature in 4 weeks anyways. As for stretch they pull anywhere for 2 to 3x the size before you flipped. Is also strain dependant as well.

I'm running hso blue dream and phantom cookies, these are the ones I worry about. As from what I've read they stretch like a mother. One thread this guy flipped a hso blue dream 3 wks from seed and it took over his tent lol, just being safe and want to get these done already so I can start a fresh 9 batch of blue dream clones with experience for next run.

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rarebreed619

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Okay ladies and gentlemen they are off ;-) already seeing stretch in the blue dream and remaining phantom. Mixing up there first batch of flowering nutes for week one. Starting them off light with the feed but full strength on addys.

An gmb 3ml a gal
Voodoo juice 38ml
Bud candy 38ml
Rhino skin 38ml

Feed 470ppm
Ph 5.8
Rm temp 87
Rh%54.0
Co2 1200ppm

Starting to get really excited and realize I have a ways to go. And I'm going to need to pick up some more additives as I burned through them in veg like an idiot and was wasteful. Oh well you have to start somewhere ;-)

Here they are.....
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Hopeing I see all female from the remaining phantom, and 2 og kushes.

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How I mix up the feed. I do 5 gal batches at a time. Usually give them 1ltr of water each feeding. Going to start feeding them 3 times a week Mon, wen, and Fri.
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budbro18

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Id watch out with the rhino skin. Havent used it but im pretty sure its silica and some plants hate it in the first few weeks of veg.

try out some of blue planets additives. Theyre supposed to be similar to AN and theyre 1/3 the cost. Ive used em for a minute but recently am switchin over to dyna gro.
 
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budbro18 said:
Id watch out with the rhino skin. Havent used it but im pretty sure its silica and some plants hate it in the first few weeks of veg.

try out some of blue planets additives. Theyre supposed to be similar to AN and theyre 1/3 the cost. Ive used em for a minute but recently am switchin over to dyna gro.
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Ok I will but I am out of veg and in flower. Only suppose to be used during flower.

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budbro18

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hahahaha

i meant to say in flower. still wake n bakin over here. haha

that shit looks good though.
 
rarebreed619

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budbro18 said:
hahahaha

i meant to say in flower. still wake n bakin over here. haha

that shit looks good though.
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Thanks, And this is a test run with these strains. if they can't take the feed kicking them bitches to the curb lol j/k. So far the blue dream just takes my abuse and loves it ;-) def going to keep this one around.

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rarebreed619

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Havn't tried the Dyna gro line are they any good. Have read a couple forum post about them. So far I'm loving this an ph perfect tech. Comes out to 5.8ph everytime and holds for about 2 weeks. Only downfall just don't add anything else cause it throws off the ph. I've tried h&g and a few other and I'm really digging an at the moment.

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budbro18

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Yeah cant argue with that ph perfect but the price is a little nasty. i hand water and make nutes as needed so i adjust ph before i water.

Usually only a couple gallons at a time. ill ph the gallon ill be using soon and leave the other until i plan to use them because certain buffers arent meant to stay in there too long.

Dyna gro's really nice. i asked them for a test pack of the grow and bloom and they sent me out one quick. its concentrated and only 2 part and you only mix 1 part at a time. no adding so much of one or the other. real simple and a good price and effective so far. ive flowered out a few plants with it and it give me just as good results as my blue planet but i dont have to add multiple measurements or different things. one bottle for veg, one for bloom. They have a silica additive, a foliar additive, and i want to say a cal mag or one other random thing.

im gonna grab some for sure when i run out of this little pack.
 
rarebreed619

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budbro18 said:
Yeah cant argue with that ph perfect but the price is a little nasty. i hand water and make nutes as needed so i adjust ph before i water.

Usually only a couple gallons at a time. ill ph the gallon ill be using soon and leave the other until i plan to use them because certain buffers arent meant to stay in there too long.

Dyna gro's really nice. i asked them for a test pack of the grow and bloom and they sent me out one quick. its concentrated and only 2 part and you only mix 1 part at a time. no adding so much of one or the other. real simple and a good price and effective so far. ive flowered out a few plants with it and it give me just as good results as my blue planet but i dont have to add multiple measurements or different things. one bottle for veg, one for bloom. They have a silica additive, a foliar additive, and i want to say a cal mag or one other random thing.

im gonna grab some for sure when i run out of this little pack.
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Will def have to check em out. The advanced is t that expensive anymore, well on eBay it's not ;-) paid 120$ for the 3 part gmb 4L. Order everything on eBay now. So cheap, only hit the hydro store up in a pinch.

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