Mycorrhiza Fungi...why you should get to know them...

PagingMrHerman

PagingMrHerman

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What’s up everyone. I had to read this thread twice to get grasp on mycorrhizae. Admittedly the first read I was medicated. I picked up a product called endo4 that I plan on root dusting clones before sog. Usually veg for two weeks then flip. I’m hoping they have enough time to reap the benefits with a shorter time limit.
I haven’t heard any reviews on the endo4 so if anyone has used it I’d appreciate your thoughts.
I also picked up gardens alive soil activator and my plan is to play around with the two and see which works best. Use one on some and both on some and try to see which is better. Thanks
 
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Synch22

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I planted some seeds 10 days ago and now they are in 7 days while they sprouted.
I added myco at the base where I planted the seeds.
Seedlings are growing very slowly.
Does adding myco to the soil make seedlings focus more on their roots before they show leaf growth?
Im kinda worried as in previous grows at day 7 plants were bigger and also this time I've made improvements on lot of things.
Thank u
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Synch22 said:
I planted some seeds 10 days ago and now they are in 7 days while they sprouted.
I added myco at the base where I planted the seeds.
Seedlings are growing very slowly.
Does adding myco to the soil make seedlings focus more on their roots before they show leaf growth?
Im kinda worried as in previous grows at day 7 plants were bigger and also this time I've made improvements on lot of things.
Thank u
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Not a bad thread to bring back from the dead, lol. Mykos kicks ass. And I've never overdone it.

I would guess transplant shock, or whatever new you're doing different this time.
 
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mordynyc

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So i tested endo 4 it seems to make the roots furry even in paper towel.
I snow some on after taproot now like
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Midiver

Midiver

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When I work at a nursery the owner said not to put that stuff in de pot because it made dem all root bound.
 
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rkmcdon

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I'm using Promix MP with mycorrhizae. I'm wondering if there is any need to add additional myco's later in the grow. Any thoughts?
 
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jacobgrows

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Mycorrhizal fungi is way overlooked in the cannabis industry. I don't really hear to many people talking about it. With both fungi and probiotic soils I've had other plants last years. Interested in seeing how long a cannabis plant will live with some treated soil.
 
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mordynyc

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jacobgrows said:
Mycorrhizal fungi is way overlooked in the cannabis industry. I don't really hear to many people talking about it. With both fungi and probiotic soils I've had other plants last years. Interested in seeing how long a cannabis plant will live with some treated soil.
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I see it mentioned all the time.
All soils are probiotic and have fungi.
They can last a few years if u reveg it like a perennial in some climates.
Longer as mother plants.
 
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waterproof808

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jacobgrows said:
Mycorrhizal fungi is way overlooked in the cannabis industry. I don't really hear to many people talking about it. With both fungi and probiotic soils I've had other plants last years. Interested in seeing how long a cannabis plant will live with some treated soil.
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Thats because the cannabis industry likes to repackage common agricultural products with a cartoon on the label and sell it to you at a HUGE markup. Mycorrhizal products are very commonly used for cannabis but grow shops rather you pay 5x as much for something with a name brand recognition instead of telling you that all mycorrhizae is produced by like 2 companies in the USA and you could be getting it for $15-20/lb when it doesn't come with a pretty graphic.
 
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mordynyc

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waterproof808 said:
Thats because the cannabis industry likes to repackage common agricultural products with a cartoon on the label and sell it to you at a HUGE markup. Mycorrhizal products are very commonly used for cannabis but grow shops rather you pay 5x as much for something with a name brand recognition instead of telling you that all mycorrhizae is produced by like 2 companies in the USA and you could be getting it for $15-20/lb when it doesn't come with a pretty graphic.
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Exactly.
Put the word hydro on it and that's another 2x markup.
 
speedwell68

speedwell68

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waterproof808 said:
Thats because the cannabis industry likes to repackage common agricultural products with a cartoon on the label and sell it to you at a HUGE markup. Mycorrhizal products are very commonly used for cannabis but grow shops rather you pay 5x as much for something with a name brand recognition instead of telling you that all mycorrhizae is produced by like 2 companies in the USA and you could be getting it for $15-20/lb when it doesn't come with a pretty graphic.
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Spot on. In the UK Great White mycorrhizae is £40 for 114g, it is aimed at weed growers, comes in a fancy blue pot with a picture of Jaws on the front. The very same stuff sold by Amazon for general gardening is £15 for a kilo.

I am a complete convert to mycorrhizae. The started using it on a UK gardening show and raving about the benefits. Last year we tried it in the wife's vegetable garden and the difference was amazing
 
Polyuro

Polyuro

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mordynyc said:
I see it mentioned all the time.
All soils are probiotic and have fungi.
They can last a few years if u reveg it like a perennial in some climates.
Longer as mother plants.
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Can you tell us a a reference to where you found research saying all soils have probiotics? I dont think you can because that is not true from what I can find but please share!
 
speedwell68

speedwell68

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Polyuro said:
Can you tell us a a reference to where you found research saying all soils have probiotics? I dont think you can because that is not true from what I can find but please share!
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It is something that I have always believed to be so. The thing is the word soil is incorrectly used to begin with. I grow in a medium called Jack's Magic, it is a peat moss based compost mix with added calcified seaweed. But cannabis people call it soil. Soil is what you dig in the garden. If you went to a proper horticultural place they'd laugh at you for calling it soil. If a soil mix contains compost or peat then it will most certainly contain pro biotics. For example this is popular with cannabis growers...

https://foxfarm.com/product/ocean-forest-potting-soil

That is just peat and compost with added fish, blood and bone. Peat is not soil. You could buy some standard garden peat and add fish, blood and bone powder and a touch of vermiculite and you will be done at a fraction of the price. But if it has peat in it then it will contain probiotic organisms.
 
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waterproof808

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Microbes cover every square millimeter of every surface, if they are all "probiotic" is debatable since that term is usually reserved for bacteria that benefits the human digestive system.
 
speedwell68

speedwell68

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waterproof808 said:
Microbes cover every square millimeter of every surface, if they are all "probiotic" is debatable since that term is usually reserved for bacteria that benefits the human digestive system.
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You are 100% correct. Pro-biotic is a poor use of language in this instance. A better term, in this case, would be beneficial micro-organisms.
 
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