My First Vert

Kings kush still unhappy, ruled out over watering by not watering it for two days.. I watered it just now, the pic below is from yesterday. Ive flushed with RO water twice and kept nutes really low (4-500ppm total with floranova and RO water and a small amount of cal mag, around 10ppm of that.)

What can I do next?

My suggestion is "compost it". Looks like mine back then, they all ended up in the compost pile.

It is a heat/dryness problem, that is that I faced. It will not recover, I wasted much time on it.

Dump it and move on.

IMHO

GR

Hmm. If you have flushed and it's not getting better and new growth is dying off makes me think some sort of root problem maybe.

What size pot? That's a very large plant. If that air pruning pot is only 3 or 5 gallons that may be your problem. Those pots are great. But once all space is used in the pot I can suffocate itself . Or get spots where water does not drain hence creating rot. Have you tried flushing and then using no nutes at all? Not even call mag. Just 50 ppm?
Maybe get a look at the roots somehow? Don't know if you can. Transplant out of those pots?

Besides that I don't know. Maybe a heat issues but usually the leaves curl upwards and get crispy if not corrected right away. Looks more like overfeeding nutes but that's weird it's dying only on the top.

Sorry bud not much info. I'll do some digging and some brain picking. Get back at you.

Nameste!

gr865 said:

It is a heat/dryness problem, that is that I faced. It will not recover, I wasted much time on it.

Dump it and move on.

IMHO

GR

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ALong14U said:

Hmm. If you have flushed and it's not getting better and new growth is dying off makes me think some sort of root problem maybe.

What size pot? That's a very large plant. If that air pruning pot is only 3 or 5 gallons that may be your problem. Those pots are great. But once all space is used in the pot I can suffocate itself . Or get spots where water does not drain hence creating rot. Have you tried flushing and then using no nutes at all? Not even call mag. Just 50 ppm?
Maybe get a look at the roots somehow? Don't know if you can. Transplant out of those pots?

Besides that I don't know. Maybe a heat issues but usually the leaves curl upwards and get crispy if not corrected right away. Looks more like overfeeding nutes but that's weird it's dying only on the top.

Sorry bud not much info. I'll do some digging and some brain picking. Get back at you.

Nameste!

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Thanks guys, it's an odd one, it's done it ever since I tied it up and put it in a vert. Was my healthiest plant until then, I have been treating it with hydroguard and i potted up into that pot incase it was a root bound issue. The only thing I can think of is to do more frequent feeds, with less PPM's? Usually I was feeding it once a day.
My heat shouldn't be an issue, it's less than 28c all day.

Id of scrapped it long ago but it's my girlfriends plant and I think she'd be real upset if I didn't figure it out. Despite the issues it's still been out growing everything else ive got.

Im gonna put it on a flush regime again, not something im keen to do but needs must.

gr865 said:

My suggestion is "compost it". Looks like mine back then, they all ended up in the compost pile.

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Damn that thing looks almost exactly like mine. Did you ever find out what issues caused it ?

JDMase said:

Damn that thing looks almost exactly like mine. Did you ever find out what issues caused it ?

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I never really figured it out, but I believe it got too dry. I was using Blumats and had a hell of a time keeping them adjusted. All of the 5 plants reacted the same only this one was the worse.
The strains were Critical Kush and Blue Cheese, both supposed to be in the 25% THC range. Tried making some Cannabis Oil and it so weak I could not even use it.

I was running GH nutes and a modified version of H3ad's formula for coco. Even running 3/5 compared to 6/9 I still got nute burn.

That is what led me to begin using drip.

GR

gr865 said:

I never really figured it out, but I believe it got too dry. I was using Blumats and had a hell of a time keeping them adjusted. All of the 5 plants reacted the same only this one was the worse.
The strains were Critical Kush and Blue Cheese, both supposed to be in the 25% THC range. Tried making some Cannabis Oil and it so weak I could not even use it.

I was running GH nutes and a modified version of H3ad's formula for coco. Even running 3/5 compared to 6/9 I still got nute burn.

That is what led me to begin using drip.

GR

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Thanks for the heads up, think I should water more frequently? Im gonna check for light leaks as I have a suspicious that could be a factor - noticed a small hole at the top of my tent.

Wouldn't be surprised if it were a root rot issue, been in wet rockwool. If it is then it will take a long time to sort out if ever.
You seem to have problems in certain patches of the plant. So possibly root rot. I would change from hydro guard to h2o2 for the added oxygen content.

coreywebster said:

Wouldn't be surprised if it were a root rot issue, been in wet rockwool. If it is then it will take a long time to sort out if ever.
You seem to have problems in certain patches of the plant. So possibly root rot. I would change from hydro guard to h2o2 for the added oxygen content.

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Was reluctant to go the h2o2 route purely because it would negate all the microbes ive put in over time thus killing everything in there. I have some pythoff but im not sure if that does the same or just hits the Pythium. I'll have a quick Google and think about it.

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Thanks for the heads up, think I should water more frequently? Im gonna check for light leaks as I have a suspicious that could be a factor - noticed a small hole at the top of my tent.

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I would check them frequently and water as needed, I never let them dry beyond 60 to 70%. I have one of those cheap handheld combo, moisture, light and pH meters. Only use the moisture meter. I now have three time sets, 8 hrs apart, first two just a bit of runoff and the last one is set to give around 20 to 30% runoff.
The Gorilla Grow Tent Lite I am using has light leaks at every seam. After my last grow 15+ zips, I got in the tent, had G/F zip me in and close the closet door. I saw now light coming from the outside, then she opened the closed door and I could just make out minor light along the seams. I keep the door closed during the lights off period of 12/12. No problems!
I would not worry about it unless it is a major leak.

GR

Left to right we have grapefruit krush, tangie, Pineapple Express.

Pineapple had some light burn from the cfl, they all really point themselves towards it. The PE got burnt though.

Decided to air layer them with a root riot cube just after this picthre. Stay tuned for that outcome.

My black dog is coming up fast. Pistills everywhere but they're not very long. I always associate long pistills with bigger buds - hope im not missing out on too much of the yield im used to with this CMH. First time im flowering out with it.

Kings Kush had 100ppm of nutrient and potassium silicate to help with stress, another dose of hydroguard. If there's no improvement by tomorrow it's getting hit with pythoff.

Hope candy kush here is done soon, down to my last buds and could use the smoke at the moment! No standout smells or anything, kinda sweet but mainly just smells of weed. Not a bad thing im guessing. Pistills seem to be curling in and it's putting size on so we shall see how that one turns out soon!


That's all I got for now! Fingers crossed I get an air layer to hit on the teens, might try it on the KK and BD too tomorrow.

More bad news. The teens - tangie, grapefruit and pineapple ALL have what I suspect to be pythium root rot.

Woke up this morning to high temps and wilting, nitrogen def looking leaves, fallen leaves curled up. Basically a massacre.

Given them a full dose of pythoff but I watered lightly as they've already been watered last night. Will give them a thorough one later on tonight.

Annoyingly was going to flower out the grapefruit tonight.

I thought it may be the fact Id air layered causing some additional stress but the roots had sat in water all night.

My gf also washed her hands off into the water which was filling up the watering can last night.

I think a combination of factors are here but most importantly I need to make sure everything is sterile from now on. So frustrating.

Remember it's not how many time a man falls down, it's how many times he picks himself up!

Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back to work dude!

I has happened to at least a few of us, some more than others.
Look forward to seeing you next grow, get all your shit together first before you start then get after it.

GR

gr865 said:

Remember it's not how many time a man falls down, it's how many times he picks himself up!

Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and get back to work dude!

I has happened to at least a few of us, some more than others.
Look forward to seeing you next grow, get all your shit together first before you start then get after it.

GR

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Don't worry im perserveering! I don't give up that easy. I'll master this Rockwool grow, it's mainly because everything im doing is either new or on a budget and there isn't too many resources or good info on how I grow so it's kind of like im figuring it out for myself.


Got some gro dan 1metre slabs which were meant to arrive today - fuck knows where that delivery is, was meant to be a next day!

My black dog is around 16 days into flowering and the pistills are already turning orange?! Odd.. Maybe they got burned when I moved the light to put the grapefruit into flower.

Grapefruit krush will be the first to have the new trough system im setting up! Stay tuned for that.

Candy Kush is almost done! Can't wait for that, hoping for 20-30 grams from that auto.

Kings kush had a low ppm pythoff feed tonight and although it's looking sat it's smelling crazily like grapefruit. Despite the issues I think whatever it is/was has halted, hopefully more low ppm feeds will get it back on track.

If you've seen my other grow I had a trans Siberian that whilst so stressed it dumped all its leaves I kept it alive, for 4 months (meant to be a 60 day auto) it eventually yielded me the most ive ever got from one plant.. So much that I wish Id weighed it all. It was around the lb mark for sure if you include all the popcorn.

I never lollipop!

Candy Kush auto pretty much done. Will harvest tonight. Well needed success. Was fun growing a mini auto, hardly took any care of it and it packed on trichomes under a 12/12 and actually took almost dead on 60 days from seed! Loving the CMH.
Great smells from this blue dream cross.

Got some nice macro shots I will upload shortly too

Love macro shots. This is candy kush, seen slight amber but I think I may let it run to get some more cloudy there. Excited