My First Vert

JDMase

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Just prepared some 3 foot gro dan slabs for the black dog and the grapefruit. Will be set in 30 minutes. My flood and drain trays aren't here yet so they'll be on the floor for now.
Black dog still getting amber pistills - quite a lot now, 3.5 weeks into flower. Is this normal?
 

coreywebster

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Just prepared some 3 foot gro dan slabs for the black dog and the grapefruit. Will be set in 30 minutes. My flood and drain trays aren't here yet so they'll be on the floor for now.
Black dog still getting amber pistills - quite a lot now, 3.5 weeks into flower. Is this normal?
Assuming your going to oxygenate your water with your flood and drain tables I don't think your gona have the same problems next run.
Look forward to seeing how it progresses.
 

JDMase

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Assuming your going to oxygenate your water with your flood and drain tables I don't think your gona have the same problems next run.
Look forward to seeing how it progresses.
Just got a call from the hydro shop that they haven't got any of the tables I ordered left. Not really sure what to go for now.

Hows best to oxygenate my water? Air stone or a pump?
 

coreywebster

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Just got a call from the hydro shop that they haven't got any of the tables I ordered left. Not really sure what to go for now.

Hows best to oxygenate my water? Air stone or a pump?
How about nft tables? Pretty easy to adapt to and not too expensive.
I would say both air stone and water pump together. In nft you get a waterfall effect too which also add oxygen.
 

JDMase

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How about nft tables? Pretty easy to adapt to and not too expensive.
I would say both air stone and water pump together. In nft you get a waterfall effect too which also add oxygen.
http://www.hydrogarden.com/product/01-040-020

Was gonna use these. Gonna see if my local guy can get some in for me.

I did wonder about whether to get a water butt and a small pump for a waterfall to oxygenate my water, and also store a large batch of mix. Would I have to worry about water temps? Don't want to go down the road of buying a chiller too.

Prefer to just hand water and use hydroguard.
 

coreywebster

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http://www.hydrogarden.com/product/01-040-020

Was gonna use these. Gonna see if my local guy can get some in for me.

I did wonder about whether to get a water butt and a small pump for a waterfall to oxygenate my water, and also store a large batch of mix. Would I have to worry about water temps? Don't want to go down the road of buying a chiller too.

Prefer to just hand water and use hydroguard.
If you get a water butt or any type of res that's not in your grow space then you shouldn't need a chiller. It should sit at about 18-20 degrees in an average room in the UK. If you get a tank/res inside your tent then you can cover it with white panda film, which should be fine to keep it cool enough. over 21 degrees the oxygen content drops considerably.

I'm just a bit worried that the hand watering contributed to your issues this last run. But as long as your source is well oxygenated then that should solve that problem.
 

JDMase

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If you get a water butt or any type of res that's not in your grow space then you shouldn't need a chiller. It should sit at about 18-20 degrees in an average room in the UK. If you get a tank/res inside your tent then you can cover it with white panda film, which should be fine to keep it cool enough. over 21 degrees the oxygen content drops considerably.

I'm just a bit worried that the hand watering contributed to your issues this last run. But as long as your source is well oxygenated then that should solve that problem.
Yeah ive wondered this too, like how much time do you need to oxygenate before it's ready? Because I must say I pour quite vigoursly.. Lol
 

JDMase

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Black dog is smelling incredible. Got some trichomes covering the leaves and the buds all seem to be more or less the same size all the way up the plant which is perfect. Just what I wanted.

Kings Kush is still unhappy but seems to have halted, the smells have also picked up from her, due to the stretch and lanky branches I think im going to have trouble getting the whole thing lit up with one 315w CMH. The buds closest to the light are definitely bigger at this stage.

Then we have grapefruit. About a week or so in there so just starting to pre flower.
Only got a few branches tied up before I gave up last night what with the whole trellis' needing to be moved on the black dog to be able to slide the slab unferneath. Was tough!

Updates will be more regular now we are into the good bit!

Side note I checked on the air layering earlier with the tangie and she's doing well, haven't checked the grapefruit yet but I will tonight, considering mixing a bit of floranova grow to boost nitrogen as they're all on just floranova bloom right now, and I feel the stem rooting might need Abit more? Im gonna try and work out the nPK now.
 

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JDMase

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Grapefruit krush air layer aborted.

Decided the leaves were looking unhappy and it was probably inhibiting other growth, although some roots were forming (see the brown stem close to the top) it wasn't fast enough and I had put it in flower as I ran out of room.

Ive got more seeds of it too. No biggie.

Pineapple clone #4 has given me roots with root riot cubes so ive ordered some more.

Should I clone my kings Kush or black dog now at this late stage in flower? Im definitely running them again. Any thoughts?

Buds are growing every day on BD and KK. 4 weeks in now, I expect another 6 or so to the finish. Hopefully before i go away at the end of July!
 

ttystikk

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Grapefruit krush air layer aborted.

Decided the leaves were looking unhappy and it was probably inhibiting other growth, although some roots were forming (see the brown stem close to the top) it wasn't fast enough and I had put it in flower as I ran out of room.

Ive got more seeds of it too. No biggie.

Pineapple clone #4 has given me roots with root riot cubes so ive ordered some more.

Should I clone my kings Kush or black dog now at this late stage in flower? Im definitely running them again. Any thoughts?

Buds are growing every day on BD and KK. 4 weeks in now, I expect another 6 or so to the finish. Hopefully before i go away at the end of July!
If it was already growing roots you could have clipped it off and just planted it.
 

JDMase

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If it was already growing roots you could have clipped it off and just planted it.
They are tiny little white nubs, when I took the root riot cube off their were 2 tiny white hairs I broke by accident left in the cube but that was all.

Think I should cut it off and stick it back in the cube?
 

JDMase

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Why not? It's a low branch so won't produce much and you'll want the clone if the plant produces well.
It's at the top of the plant, I quickly put the root riot cube back on and tightened it with a pipe cleaner. Wrapped with foil and I will probably cut it off tomorrow and put it in my humidity dome.

Having problems sourcing Aqua trays here. Two companies have taken my money and not delivered them, still awaiting refunds, third times a charm though. Hopefully they come before I need to irrigate. Grodan recommend 4-5 days until I do, that's coming up fast.

Struggling to get my PPM's above 500 this grow without burn, wondering if that's due to the CMH? With 600w HPS I was hitting 800ppms by this point. (Including 300ppm of tap water)
 

coreywebster

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I use about that ppm on new clones and veg plants under CMH, no issues. That's not including my tap water either which is 300.

I assume you have tried buying Aqua trays from Bradford hydro? Maybe if you don't get those aqua trays this time you can just go to a few £ shops and pick up the longest plastic planter you can find and adapt them to fit your needs.
 

JDMase

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I use about that ppm on new clones and veg plants under CMH, no issues. That's not including my tap water either which is 300.

I assume you have tried buying Aqua trays from Bradford hydro? Maybe if you don't get those aqua trays this time you can just go to a few £ shops and pick up the longest plastic planter you can find and adapt them to fit your needs.
Ive tried every link on the first 5 pages of Google, I need the 1 metre ones. Considered getting a local plastic company to make 100 and selling them myself on eBay!

Yeah I will probably look into that if I don't have any luck by Friday!
 

JDMase

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JD are you sure its nutrient burn and not a potassium Def. What nutrients do you use again?
Im using floranova bloom with a small amount of potassium silicate if needed as a ph up. So mainly just floranova bloom, I have the grow too but I got nitrogen tox using that so switched back a few weeks ago.
 

coreywebster

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Im using floranova bloom with a small amount of potassium silicate if needed as a ph up. So mainly just floranova bloom, I have the grow too but I got nitrogen tox using that so switched back a few weeks ago.
Yeah, that's why I was asking really, I'm sure we have been though all this before though. That bloody Nitrogen.
Are you calibrating your PH pen regular? What does it say your tap water is.
 
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