looking for a hydro grower!

Thundercat said:

Lmao no one "gang raped" you. But if you opened your mind we did try to help you! You absolutely stated you wanted to prove that "your" system would blow be superior to hydro. Thanks for playing but our obviously just another troll with a closed mind to learning.

So please do take your shit attitude back to your private corner of solitude.

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see my point exactly fuck this, I don't need it, best to everyone sorry for wasting your time! I'm unfollowing!

ppl like you are why I miss blowing mother fuckers to thousands of pieces in the army! that was making the the world a better place!

Greenthumbs256 said:

see my point exactly fuck this, I don't need it, best to everyone sorry for wasting your time! I'm unfollowing!

ppl like you are why I miss blowing mother fuckers to thousands of pieces in the army! that was making the the world a better place!

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My hub did 22 years USAF. He started in VN and ended in the first Desert Storm. Thank you for your service and I hope you find the right strain to help with any health issues you may have. Currently I make him a coconut oil based edible that helps him with his chronic pain.

Greenthumbs256 said:

see my point exactly fuck this, I don't need it, best to everyone sorry for wasting your time! I'm unfollowing!

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before you go, you were looking for an experienced hydro grower

you got a bunch to respond to you with all basically the same advice: only one person can do a proper side by side comparison of growth rates.

your plant does look nice but nice looking plants are a dime a dozen on this site.

Those buds look nice and frosty man, great work. How many if these 4x4 Scrogs are you running?

Greenthumbs256 said:

see my point exactly fuck this, I don't need it, best to everyone sorry for wasting your time! I'm unfollowing!

ppl like you are why I miss blowing mother fuckers to thousands of pieces in the army! that was making the the world a better place!

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You may wish to meet @Olive Drab Green. He also uses weed to deal with his military experiences, and he has some innovative ideas about growing. A nice guy overall.

Thank you for serving.

Thundercat said:

Those buds look nice and frosty man, great work. How many if these 4x4 Scrogs are you running?

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will be 4 total, and thank you guys, but I really need to go relax and take a breather! I'm sorry for all this, I'm normally not a complete fuck, like I'm Cleary coming off as, I do appreciate the advise and what not, but for now, I'm going clear my head thank you again

Greenthumbs256 said:

see my point exactly fuck this, I don't need it, best to everyone sorry for wasting your time! I'm unfollowing!

ppl like you are why I miss blowing mother fuckers to thousands of pieces in the army! that was making the the world a better place!

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Lol dude you need to smoke one and chill. Yep I called you out on having a bad attitude. Deal with it like an adult instead I throwing a tantrum.

I have been nothing but nice from the beginning, but you continued to have a bad attitude and said you were leaving.

Edit: I just saw your apology post and I'm really not trying to be a jerk either man. Ask these guys I'm typically way toooo nice

I had a look at your thread,day one was Nov 3?Then theres a pic at Nov 24?So 3 weeks,not sure what light u have but growth ,node spacing etc.looks a little slow.
A dialed in hydro grow would be double that size in the same time.

ight I'm going to try and redo/ redeem myself from this, I haven't exactly had the best week, and have lots of things going on right now, most of which have nothing to do with you guys or anything here!

that's being said, I didn't intend to have a shitty attitude (although I regularly come off the wrong way) I swear this was not my intention! I really like to try and consider myself a good person, and live my life accordingly, regardless of the past, I try to live my life now as a good person. I really do, I'm sure I'll have to deal with my past either in this life or the next, but that is neither here nor there! so Ill start off by saying I am sorry, to everyone, I didn't show up here to fight or argue with the hydro sections best! I do appreciate everyone chiming in with advise and trying to help! and I do Thank yall for that!

so maybe if this isn't too late, or a dollar short and day late, I'd like to try and restart this this with a fresh start, and I'll try my best to be clear and without any bs. also plz excuse if I sound any other way then what I Mean, Im regularly taken the wrong way, I guess it's maybe just my personality, bc I get this kinda issue quite often! I don't mean any kind of disrespect or any attitude what so ever!

so I'll get right to it after I post this, ill try to be clear, bc some of you have made perfect points (and we're 100% correct) about things I said, that I just didn't really mean like that!

OK so to be clear, I'm really not trying to convince anyone to switch to my style, and I'm not trying to switch to yours.

I'm also not trying to do a comparison like most of us would assume. bc of my situation, I'm limited on what I'm able to do, and the methods I can do! I'm also not trying to prove if one method is better than another, although I get that's exactly how it sounded from the start of this thing!

what I'm actually looking for, is to just see how the method I use measures up to hydro, in my research and Im sure most ppl opinions, hydro has always been the best in terms of fast growth, highest yielding, and highest thc percentage, but the reason I've always liked organics is bs of my preference on taste!

now with that being said, the method I've been working on is a mix of the two, and I feel the best of both worlds! I have the life of the soil, and the lack of work, plus I also have the water roots, which I believe is what makes hydro win in most categorys! and why so many ppl love it!

so the whole point that I'm here, is bc I was curious as to, how much faster hydro would grow, compared to this, don't really care about the yield, or money lights, really anything. just wanted to see, if this method could match or at least get close to the growth of hydro!

now bc of this. there's no way to just run 2 ladies side by side start to finish! bc of the fact it takes over a month before the organic lady, will even touch the sip, in that amount of time, hydro could already be massive and maybe 3 times the size, that would defeat the entire thing that I'm looking to find out!

I basically am just looking to see two of the same cuts, around the same size, both be placed into the different methods, or even maybe having let's say a lady in hydro that 12in tall, at the same time, have a 12in tall lady ready to be placed into a sip! and at that time, just measure the growth rates, as I've said, we all know hydro is the fastest method known to all growers! so I really just wanted to see of my sip was anywhere near hydro! bc over the past since I've started running sips, they are easily blowing away every other plant in my garden!

I run smart pots or did, in a living soil, but the sip, grow more than twice as fast, twice as big, and in half the time, it's really be an absolute shock to me, and I had no idea that these kind of results were even possible!

so that's what brought about all this, and it's not to prove one method is better than the other, but like I've said. just for personal reasons to see how this method would stack up to a perfectly ran hydro set up!

myke said:

I had a look at your thread,day one was Nov 3?Then theres a pic at Nov 24?So 3 weeks,not sure what light u have but growth ,node spacing etc.looks a little slow.
A dialed in hydro grow would be double that size in the same time.

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day one when I received the cut was October 31, I can't say off the top of my head, they day that I placed her into a sip, but Ithe does take at least 2 weeks from the day it's planted to become acclimated, and for the soil life to take over! that's also why I kinda wanted to start measuring at a certain time!

like i said I know hydro would still be faster, I really just wanna know when the sip if running at its max, how does it compare to growth of a perfect hydro set up! I understand that hydro, can technically be running a 100% from day 1, until the day of chop! and my sips can't do that, even on their best day!

also that thread I've had a lot of problems, I've changed a lot of things, and I think I've worked out most of those issues, so you kinda of have to take it with a grain of salt.

also their hose he reason I want to run a new one to compare growth for around let's say 3-4 weeks towards the end of veg, just to know how much it's slacking or not!

and that's my reasoning to coming here

also the reason there as such a long gap. is bc of some issues, like i said it's been a working progress, with a lot of bumps. you really can't take the beginning of that thread and use it for the comparison, only bc it was far from 100% honestly at that point, I was thinking about trashing it lol!

but if it's too late for all that, hey I get it, wish you guys the best, I appreciate you letting me apologize, and for trying to help, it's really my fault I wasn't way more clear and transparent from the beginning. I get your not mind readers, and I 100% get at this point, who would even wanna stick around now! so like I've said I'm sorry!

wish you guys all the best, hope everyone has a much better week then I have had! no hard feelings on my end!

You can go by inches of growth per day. But really not a good comparison. As you said hydro is 100% from day one. So if it takes you 2 weeks to get the sip just right then your way behind already.
Most hydro guys have two flower rooms and one veg because after 3 weeks from clone there pretty big.

Thanks for the apologies and for clearing the air. Sadly I don't have much to add beyond what I did. The only way to get any sort of reasonable comparison at all, now matter exactly which part or time frame you want to use, is to do them in the same environment. If you can't set up a small hydro unit in your grow for the test, then do the whole thing at your buddies by taking one of your sips into his environment. Either way both techniques in the same room will be the most accurate results, and anything else will be wildly inaccurate and hard to even compare.

Thundercat said:

If you can't set up a small hydro unit in your grow for the test, then do the whole thing at your buddies by taking one of your sips into his environment.

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hell, just make a hempy bucket and add to your tent. it's the hydro version of a sip.

Honestly, if dude is out of town a lot I totally get not wanting to screw around figuring out a new system. So putting his system in another room might be the best option.

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Thundercat said:

Honestly, if dude is out of town a lot I totally get not wanting to screw around figuring out a new system. So putting his system in another room might be the best option.

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year there is times where I am gone for long amount of time, in the past I had to rely on the wife, and I guess yall could call her "black thumb" and yes its that bad lol.

and that's also the reason I can't really run this comparison myself, besides the money. in all my years of growing, I haven't seen a system that can be left alone for a week or more without someone having to do something, or a lot of money to automate everything, I get you can go some periods with a cheap hydro set up, but nothing that's on the level of these probiotic sips, bc even after the rez runs dry, I have a good week or so, that the plant is still thriving! which us why this method is best for me! but if I can't even get a good comparison of what I'm looking for, it isn't a big deal, it's was all just out of curiosity anyway, doesn't actually change or affect anything!