Latest ice out ever.

Fogdog said:

Four plants produce about 7-8 pounds in my garden. For me that's about 60 years worth but I'm a lightweight so I give away plenty. I know people and we trade around so there are plenty of different varieties available on my smoke shelf. Eight pounds a year for personal use is not enough?

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I get about a hundred gram yield from a 1 pound extraction. Eight hundred grams of extract goes quicker than you'd think.

Sour Wreck said:

i'm just gonna be honest. 4 plants won't work for me.

fuck da man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: i mean i support legalization for us, but it just won't work for me personally.

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In California, it's 6 plants per household under the new law. However, if you have a doctor's recommendation, then you can grow as many as you need.

Sour Wreck said:

lol, i am divorced and the kids are grown.

the government can kiss my ass...

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You've got bigger balls than me. No way I'm risking my home.

With all the herb available for free from my own garden, swaps with friends and people like me who simply grew more than they need, I don't see how commercial can charge what it does in the dispensaries. I buy seed from a local breeder and it's been wonderful. One hit and I'm done. Some people who've tried my home grown say it's the best they've ever had. I'm not bragging, or claiming that I'm growing top shelf, just saying that there is a lot of good weed to be had and all of it is free. I've bought from dispensaries and it's good but not that much better.

travisw said:

I get about a hundred gram yield from a 1 pound extraction. Eight hundred grams of extract goes quicker than you'd think.

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Oregon's laws don't allow home non-commercial extraction. We've had a few people blow up their garages. Also no way I'd smoke stuff from a home butane extractor unless I did it myself. Too many contaminants in commercial butane. It requires a lot of expertise to reliably clean it up and I don't think most could do it. Then again a small amount of flower does it for me.

That looks like a nice and expensive extractor. CO2?

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In California, it's 6 plants per household under the new law. However, if you have a doctor's recommendation, then you can grow as many as you need.

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Yeah, I don't know anything about the medical side of the OR law. I think the limit there is 12.

rollitup said:

In California, it's 6 plants per household under the new law. However, if you have a doctor's recommendation, then you can grow as many as you need.

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i got plenty of legit medical reasons once all that catches up with the bible belt.

i like the way you west coasters think...

Fogdog said:

You've got bigger balls than me. No way I'm risking my home.

With all the herb available for free from my own garden, swaps with friends and people like me who simply grew more than they need, I don't see how commercial can charge what it does in the dispensaries. I buy seed from a local breeder and it's been wonderful. One hit and I'm done. Some people who've tried my home grown say it's the best they've ever had. I'm not bragging, or claiming that I'm growing top shelf, just saying that there is a lot of good weed to be had and all of it is free. I've bought from dispensaries and it's good but not that much better.

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no offense intended, but i am beyond 1 hit wonders. i take a couple of dabs at a time. i smoke a lot. with that said, i bet you grow some killer and i would love to smoke some

i have been to prison for this plant, i am not playing with these fuckers anymore. i am not a dealer. i am not making money. but i am breeding and sharing what i do. i am not a criminal and can't even comprehend this fucked up law anymore.

i'm like Willie Nelson... What??? i'm gonna get high as soon as i bail out !!!! and i am gonna grow again.... promise !!!!!

Sour Wreck said:

no offense intended, but i am beyond 1 hit wonders. i take a couple of dabs at a time. i smoke a lot. with that said, i bet you grow some killer and i would love to smoke some

i have been to prison for this plant, i am not playing with these fuckers anymore. i am not a dealer. i am not making money. but i am breeding and sharing what i do. i am not a criminal and can't even comprehend this fucked up law anymore.

i'm like Willie Nelson... What??? i'm gonna get high as soon as i bail out !!!! and i am gonna grow again.... promise !!!!!

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I wasn't implying anything. I've talked with a couple who go through an ounce in few days. Jesus, I'd be comatose. Everybody is different and I'm good with that.

For myself, I moved from California to Idaho a while back. I didn't know anybody there and simply gave up weed altogether. The job was really good I liked Idaho for lots of other reasons and weed was just for recreation to me. Got married, had kids, did plenty with my life there that I'd never want to trade for weed. When I moved to Oregon, that same attitude came with me. A wife, kids and a good job are highest priority to me too. Yeah, it's not very edgy to say but for me weed wasn't worth the risk.

Then the state legalized and I started growing. It's been great. So long as the feds have weed listed at the same legal level as heroine, states have to maintain a level of regulation that keeps the feds away. For that reason, I'll follow the law and hope others will too. Medical users can grow twelve plants for personal use here but there are regulatory burdens to go along with. It's pretty easy to guess that Oregon is growing more weed under current laws than needed. One of the purposes of the Oregon law was to make a wide-spread black market in the state unprofitable and I'm pretty sure we've made that happen. If too many Oregonians mess with exporting weed out of state, they can screw it all up for everybody like me. So, I'd prefer if we all just work around the Neanderthal right wing government until we can do something at the federal level to implement rational regulation.

That said, totally agree all these regulations are BS. I don't see any reason why people shouldn't be able to do with this wonderful medicinal and interesting plant.No reason why you can't have your breeding hobby. What happens to what you grow is your business and nobody else's.

UncleBuck said:

you do not have a right to deny service to people based on their skin color, and it is not "polite and reasonable" to hang signs excluding black people

please stop spamming us with your klan bullshit

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So, you think it is "polite and reasonable" to use a government law backed by the threat of a gun, to force a black guy to serve you against his will?

You'd go to a black guy's property (even if he didn't want you there) and tell, him, "like it or not" he was going to use his body to meet your demands, and if he didn't you'd shoot him? That's what you're saying.

Please stop spamming yourself, with your racist contradictions. Thank you, Poopy Pants.

Fogdog said:

All or nothing. All was unacceptable to the majority in CA. So all meant nothing . What the so-called idealist is really standing for is nothing or nothing.

The majority was not accepting of free pot everywhere without restrictions because the majority want a regulated market as with alcoholic beverages. Probably tax revenues fit into the equation for why the measure passed too. I'd be glad to see a rational explanation for why people say "Big Pharma was behind" the measure. I don't get that part of the argument.

If I compare Oregon's to California's pot laws, I prefer Oregon's but I'm glad CA made the great leap forward. I support progress even if the only bill that could pass was flawed.

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You are pointing out the nuances of hard core prohibition versus prohibition lite. Both criminalize behavior where a peaceful person is growing marijuana. That's wrong.

Prohibition lite is like a kinder gentler slave master. yet it still HAS a slave master. Good job, Toby.

Rob Roy said:

So, you think it is "polite and reasonable" to use a government law backed by the threat of a gun, to force a black guy to serve you against his will?

You'd go to a black guy's property (even if he didn't want you there) and tell, him, "like it or not" he was going to use his body to meet your demands, and if he didn't you'd shoot him? That's what you're saying.

Please stop spamming yourself, with your racist contradictions. Thank you, Poopy Pants.

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Weren't you just asked to stop spamming the forum with white nationalist propaganda?

Justin-case said:

Weren't you just asked to stop spamming the forum with white nationalist propaganda?

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I don't believe in nationalism. I think racists are doing it wrong.

Rob Roy said:

I don't believe in nationalism. I think racists are doing it wrong.

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You are a racist

trippnface said:

The Scientists bringing to light the Solar Cycle issues are not the shills advocating for the oil industry, please do not make that mistake.

This is about Population control. The next Grand Solar Minimum is going to destroy Global crop production and cause mass starvation & death. It is in their interests to keep us ignorant about the reality of our Enviornment. I really urge you to investigate this farther. Humans at large, and especially the mass Enviorment abusers, 100% are adding to co2 levels shifts in Earth.

That still does not change the fact that nothing we do even comes slightly close to the effects of the Sun on Global Climate.

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No. This was the thesis of one of the best climate scientists in the business, Dr. William Gray of the CSU department of Atmospheric Sciences. He was the guy who worked out the correlation between hurricanes and the El Nino/La Nina cycle, and did a hurricane forecast for the Atlantic coast for much of his career. The man was all but a demigod in Florida.

He felt as you do; that solar variations were the primary drivers of climate fluctuation.

The other professors and graduate students weren't so sure so they launched an in depth study. That study debunked Bill's theory definitively.

Bill never took a dime from Big Oil, either; he was the only honest AGW sceptic I've ever heard of.

Humans have increased atmospheric CO2 by over 50% since the beginning of the industrial age. It's been known as a greenhouse gas since the 1800s. Perhaps you can explain how such a large increase in this well known greenhouse gas would NOT have an effect on climate?

The evidence in favor is overwhelming.

it doesn't seem like he's saying it's not a factor, just that the sun is a much bigger factor.
i'm starting to think we've accidentally done ourselves a favor. if we are going into a maunder minimum, which actually seems to be the case, maybe we're holding off the global cooling with that Co2. of course, we're probably also severely altering weather patterns while we're doing it.

Rob Roy said:

No, but I might be a specieist.

You, are an avowed feceist, Poopy Pants.

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All racist and bigots tend to be the biggest hypocrites

londonfog said:

All racist and bigots tend to be the biggest hypocrites

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Cowardly and dumb too

londonfog said:

All racist and bigots tend to be the biggest hypocrites

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Well, if that is so, it might explain why @Uncle Buck is okay with government using a gun to force a black guy to serve him against the black guy's will eh?

Rob Roy said:

Well, if that is so, it might explain why @Uncle Buck is okay with government using a gun to force a black guy to serve him against the black guy's will eh?

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We already went over this when I used your beautiful mom as an example. You forget rather quickly I see. Would you want someone to defend your mother if EVERY place she went in the deep south told her that they don't serve bitches and to get the fuck out.
She enters a public restaurant and sits at the counter. restaurant owner tells her to get her bitch ass out and come to the back for her meal. She enters a drug store. They straight up refuse to serve and just say " bitch get out ". She tries to get a hotel room for the night...Bitch get out.
She tries everywhere and either is told to get her bitch ass out or come to the back for service. Would you want a law to change this behavior towards your beautiful mom or would you just be frustrated .