Let's see your pics where a led equivalent to my hps 1ks can put out 2.5 pounds. I don't care about light show me the nugs. Then show me the quality of a full pound turkey bag. Then I'll listen to your bullshit. But even then, I won't. Cost me upwards of 80 grand a year to run without the headaches of led . I know growers that are too cheap to buy industrial dehus or mini splits, because they simply don't give a fuck. And that's where you really save on electricity. But when your on phase3 power, who cares anyways? I run a business , I don't play with lights . Your arguing with the wrong dude. If I grew in a closet I would be all about fucking with leds and kook diy bullshit . But I'm about quality and pounds vs investment.