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ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

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Also, if you duct into the roof, it can cause that snow melt like I mentioned. This can cause ice damming, but it can also be a clue to police you are growing if you are not legal for some reason. Just somthing to consider also
 
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ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ said:
Yeah your duct work would probably be fine in there then. you would have a much more negative impact on the roof system (in particular directly above your room) if you accidently eliminate the airflow between the roof joists when you build the room.
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right i come up those stairs directly into the center of the peak, so I'm hoping to stay as far from the roof joists as possible while not bother other tenants
 
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kovidkough said:
the ambient temp in the attic is 45 rn , outside is 16. that seems normal right?
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Not great lol
Like I said, in a perfect world, the attic would be the same as outside.
But within 20° is considered good
Right now, the underside is way above freezing, and outside is below.
This causes snow on the roof to melt, and freeze, and pool, causing leaks.
Doesn't sound like thats really your problem though since you don't own haha
 
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ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ said:
Not great lol
Like I said, in a perfect world, the attic would be the same as outside.
But within 20° is considered good
Right now, the underside is way above freezing, and outside is below.
This causes snow on the roof to melt, and freeze, and pool, causing leaks.
Doesn't sound like thats really your problem though since you don't own haha
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nope not my building but I also don't want to cause any structure damage so thank you for sharing all this
 
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This picture actually depicts your "room" in the attic on the left there. You want to eliminate that conductive heat loss the best you can with insulation and a vapor barrier in the walls. The ceiling needs air baffles installed, or closed cell foam though. This gives insulation value, and air exchange.
 
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PJ Diaz said:
I'm not a carpenter myself, but I would be worried that those beams were part of the structural support of the building.
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nah its a huge space only installing a ladder, no harm done

the attic space is like 20x40 or 20x60 something really really big
 
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kovidkough said:
yea but im staying above my own, no one else goes up there
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Those sometimes are used to prevent spread of the exterior walls.
Probably not a lot being held there, but they can be structural.
If you cut them out, short term should be fine, but I would make sure to frame the opening for your ladder out very well, and use some large lag bolts to tie everything together.
You also might be well off adding some hangers to the ceiling joists after you cut them.
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You are cutting out the short way on the joists though, so your double headers will be under a lot of stress due to the length.
Hangers where the existing joists are cut, and connect the double header will help.
But the walls immediately to the left and right there, may not be framed as structural. They will hold the ceiling likely, but if they are not framed structurally, they will sag, and the ceiling will go with it.
Depending how long your scuttle hole will be, a double header 2x6 might not be strong enough and you may have to upgrade to a lvl
 
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ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ said:
Those sometimes are used to prevent spread of the exterior walls.
Probably not a lot being held there, but they can be structural.
If you cut them out, short term should be fine, but I would make sure to frame the opening for your ladder out very well, and use some large lag bolts to tie everything together.
You also might be well off adding some hangers to the ceiling joists after you cut them.
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I got 4x6s for the frame of the ladder , I'm not the one in charge of all the construction like I said I got 2 generations, my father and grandfather helping. I lug shit lol they do all the pencil pushing

honestly you've totally lost me lol
 
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auto feed system has been almost entire assembled with diy stuff. 200gphish pump with 8 manifold in a 5gal res (I have a 30 gallon if this turns out to be a PITA, but the Homer bucket is small and easy to move around) home made drip rings should make my life easier feeding the plants that end up in the back and hard reach areas, still building an automated run off , need to buy a condensate pump and figure out how to direct to the run off from 3 gal fabric pots, most likely will Jimmy rig something from old/free shit lying around. I'm a cheap ass
 
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got coco bricks on the way, going back to coco from my perlite, just not liking it, plants are healthy now, don't get me wrong. but seems the coco is just all around more productive.
 
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