Jigfresh's Grow #3 - Flooded Tube Vertical - Querkle, Odyssey - 1000w
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PANGcake
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Hehe..."lumen envy"!Im subed for the crack, already got lumen envy. Good stuff Jigfresh>>>>>>>>>>>>>uk psychosis yummyness
What happened to the pics in the thread, did you pull them?
//pce, CaL
BooMeR242
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things are lookin full in the closet jig. sorry its been a while just busy and shit with my flower flip. but how u likin the new hydro setup? havent had a chance to catch up and see the ups and downs uve had
jigfresh
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Thanks a lot Jay... I'm feeling a bit more satisfied with this grow as it goes on... and I should yeild a bit as well.
I need a bigger house!!! lol. I keep getting PM becuase I am very careless with my plants during the first few weeks of life. Between the tiny space, the hydro kicking out humidity, no air flow, and a TON of leaves... add it all up to = PM. It is a disease, so now that they got it once, it's keeps coming back... at least for this grow, I'll scrub down to make sure not next grow. And I'm going to stay on top of them next one. It's really just human error on my part... nothing really to do with hydro. WOuld have happened the same in dirt for me.Very very nice indeed! You need a bigger grow area?!How come you keep getting PM, is it more comon for hydro set ups?! GJ there Scrogking!
//pce, CaL
Ew man... that's kinda nasty. I just have the PM for sure. Thanks a lot for letting me know though. Always on top of things Hulk. I been missing you around RIU as much. Glad you are working though.
Glad you enjoyed the story. I'm also glad you had me tell it. The buds are getting a tiny bit fatter each day... and they are getting sticky now too. It is a bit painful trimming... but also addicting. Part of me wanted to cut all but like 3 or 4 buds per plant... but I started cutting of pretty sizable buds, so I stopped. Now there is nothing to do but look at them and mess with my water and such. How boring. Guess watching buds develop is a good side prize.
I thought you would like that. I broke it once and it wasn't in the right space then... so I did it again the other way. Took about 3 inches of heigh from it I think. Thanks for the suggestion, you and others who suggested.Super Duper Cropping skills, my fave pic for sure. It reminds me of Zorro!!!
Thanks bro. Really appreciate it.
Yeah, I don't know if those pics are going to get back up there. I think I'll just redo that post or something. Really screws up the continuity of the journal. I like having a clean complete journal you know... so I'm all messed up with this, haha.
The odyssey did not seem to get the PM as bad... BUT it is a tiny plant compared to the querkles, so don't know if that had to do with it. The odyssey for whatever reason never developed much. I wouldn't read too much into it. Not like querkle is hands down a better strain. It might be the light exposure. But the odysseys stalk at it's very biggest is about HALF as big as One of the Side branches from any of the querkles. I pulled off everything but the top of the odyssey and it's still the tiniest bud in the closet. I have half a mind to just pull the whole plant, but it's not causeing any harm. So I'll leave it. I totally can't tell the smell yet.
Right on Mr. West.... been wondering when you'd stop by these parts. Got about 4 weeks left. Just in time for the good stuff.Im subed for the crack, already got lumen envy. Good stuff Jigfresh>>>>>>>>>>>>>
No man... they are in my albums... don't know what happened. Really kinda pissing me off. I keep this journal to share and now I'm just sharing boxes with red x's in them.Hehe..."lumen envy"!
What happened to the pics in the thread, did you pull them?
250 v 400 = No comparison in my book. A 400 will get you bushier plants with more bud spots... as for growing fast, that's a tricky question. You can make the plants stretch out fast with either light, but then they are just tall. And you can keep the light close and have them bush out a bit... not growing tall, but growing fat or something. If you are worried about funds... the 250w will work. I mean hell that's all I used for this grow until about 2 or 3 weeks ago. So it will work... but the answer to any light question for me is always MORE is BETTER. *(as long as you can cool it)
I absolutely love the hydro setup. There are some bugs (not living bugs) with the whole set up... but those are my fault to be fixed for next grow. I'm just blown away by the growth and health of these plants (despite all the abuse I've given them). I'm very very happy with my set up and think next round I will do a 2 level set up with 3 plants on each level. Still stay in my 6 plant window, cut veg time in half, and still get some FAT FAT nugs.
Thanks for stopping by everyone. I'll take some pics soon. THe buds are looking good.
jigfresh
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Thanks for letting me know. I'm watching now.
So about my closet... the buds are getting pretty damn fat. Everything is looking good. I really really like the way the querkle is smelling. Very fruity. Smells kinda like the purple kush I grew but without the sharp citrus smell the PK had. I've noticed a few leaves that didn't get sulphur on them, so the pm is still on them... I'm just picking those off. As crazy as it sounds I've gone through one by one checking the buds. I finally have acheived what I've wanted, that being a small number of giant giant buds. I will have to count how many there are, but basically there is a big cola at the end of each big branch and the top. I guess this is what lollipopping is. They are seriously like lollipops on the end of long sticks.
Pics in a little bit.
jigfresh
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bmunchies
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Hey Jig,
Guess I have to resub to this thread with the new RIU.
Okay some questions for you, first why this method? I have heard you address this briefly, but wasn't your main beef with the PK grow that you couldn't custom tailor the nutes to each plant with just one reservoir? You solved that with the DWC CJ and SG grow, but how did you avoid that problem here? I'd assume it's because you have mostly one strain, but even having a few different strains would create the same nutrient problem you encountered before no? Is it simply for ease of not having to mess with the water and roots on an individual plant basis?
Also, I have been reading a lot about 1k vs. 2 600's. As you are the master of the Michael's cool tubes (which I found btw thank you!), why not 2 600 HPS? Our friend Heath R. seems to be a big fan of 600 as well. For only an extra 200 watts give or take you get an extra 50k lumens.
And, since I credit you for the majority of my vertical screen inspiration.. I'd like to share this with you. In a 5 gal. SOIL , all organic.. Purple Kush. 4 OZ from one plant, could have done much better, but all in all first grow. And largely thanks to your detailed journals 
Love to meet you next time I'm in Big Bear! yes, I'm medical
Guess I have to resub to this thread with the new RIU.
Okay some questions for you, first why this method? I have heard you address this briefly, but wasn't your main beef with the PK grow that you couldn't custom tailor the nutes to each plant with just one reservoir? You solved that with the DWC CJ and SG grow, but how did you avoid that problem here? I'd assume it's because you have mostly one strain, but even having a few different strains would create the same nutrient problem you encountered before no? Is it simply for ease of not having to mess with the water and roots on an individual plant basis?
Also, I have been reading a lot about 1k vs. 2 600's. As you are the master of the Michael's cool tubes (which I found btw thank you!), why not 2 600 HPS? Our friend Heath R. seems to be a big fan of 600 as well. For only an extra 200 watts give or take you get an extra 50k lumens.
And, since I credit you for the majority of my vertical screen inspiration.. I'd like to share this with you. In a 5 gal. SOIL
, all organic.. Purple Kush. 4 OZ from one plant, could have done much better, but all in all first grow. And largely thanks to your detailed journals Love to meet you next time I'm in Big Bear! yes, I'm medical
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#1Raiderfan420
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Buds look like they are really startting to pack it on now. Very nice Jig, way to overcome some hurdles and get closer to the finish of what looks to be some great bud! + rep
jigfresh
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All the spots you see are the Sulphur powder I am using to combat the PM. It's not the PM you are seeing.
I like the idea of fast recirculating DWC's. This just seems to be the most simple high speed RDWC to have. No need for pressurized pipes needing super tight seals.
That was the Hindu Skunk and White Widow grow. And yes I did solve that with the 2 dwc system last grow... BUT that was a Pain in the arse. Killed me doing everything twice. So this time just one tank. From now on I beleive... one tank one strain.
I did not avoid the problem. That's why the querkles will yeild like 4 oz each... easy... while the one Odyssey will get me maybe 10 grams. I was only planning on running one strain this grow, but had the clones gifted to me from a good friend. He brought over 5 querkles and 1 Odyssey. I killed 2 querkles so I'm left with what I got. Figured might as well keep the Odyssey. Next grow... one strain.
Yes.
That is part of it. Also having the water circulate and splash around is what I like too. Also, I like it becuase when the power goes out for a little bit, there is still water in the tubes untill it is drank up. And I love having the main rez root free... just wide open to play with.
Bro... My closet is so small. 2 feet x 3 feet. I honestly can't beleive I am cooling a 1000w light. No way I would be able to cool 2 - 600w's. I would love to have that setup... but also... this is overkill already. Like MAD overkill. Anything more is just rediculous. I can't imagine what my lumens per square foot are. Especially becuase the plants aren't even against the wall. The 1000w has less than a foot around it.
That looks SOOOOOOOO good bro. Love it. THanks for posting and really glad I could assist in some way. Love that purple kush. Congrats my friend.I'd like to share this with you. In a 5 gal. SOIL
I'll be here man.Love to meet you next time I'm in Big Bear! yes, I'm medical
Like Godfrey said... click on 'thread tools' at the top of the thread... then select 'Subscribe to this thread'
Glad you are here with us.
Thanks a lot Raider. They have really packed on the resin now. Wifes out with the camera so no pics now... but you gotta see this stuff.
About the hurdles... I think I may have tripped and fallen to the point I may not be able to get up. I went away for 3 days, and for some reason the GFCI outlet switched off before the light came on the day I left. Basically the whole closet had NO POWER for more than 72 hours. No water to the roots. No light. No circulating of the water. No fans of any sort. The plants were left in a dark, very humid location with ZERO air circulation. Basically the worst environment possible for Powdery Mildew.
The shit has taken over some of the smaller branches near the bottom. Just strait snow storm in the heart of the buds. Fucking sucks. Kinda makes me want to cry actually.
So today I'm getting a sulphur burner... a real one. and I'm going to try and save this grow. This is serious... I may lose it all. That would be heartbreaking. I guess I could just hash it all. Have like 100 grams of hash or something. Not really sure. Pretty much just gutted right now. And sick of picking off nasty Mildewy leaves. This shit sucks. lol.... not too optimistic today.
About optimism though... I'm stoked on where my life is going right now. Things are really falling into place. I'm calling a guy today that works with a local organization that mentors at risk youth. I'm gonna start making a difference in a young persons life. We could all use a little hand, but the kids around where I'm from really really need someone they can look up to. And that's me. And luckily no powdery mildew on people, lol.
