Inside the convoluted mind of John Edwards ...

ViRedd

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Who gets to shape your kids' values?

[SIZE=-1]Posted: September 28, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

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[FONT=Palatino,]By Joseph Farah

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I just read a stunning quote.

It was so shocking I had to read it over several times to be sure I wasn't seeing things.

It's a quote from Democratic Party presidential candidate John Edwards uttered at the most recent debate televised on MSNBC.

In response to a question of whether he would be comfortable having a fairy tale read to his second-grader that ends with two men kissing and living happily ever after, Edwards had this to say: "… I don't want to make that decision on behalf of my children. I want my children to be able to make that decision on behalf of themselves, and I want them to be exposed to all the information, even in (chuckling), what did you say, second grade? Well, second grade might be a little tough, but even in second grade, to be exposed to all those possibilities. Because I don't want to impose my view – nobody made me God – I don't get to decide on behalf of my family and my children. … I don't get to impose on them what it is that I believe is right."
In all my 53 years on this planet, I have never read a more idiotic, mindless, pandering, scary quote than this – certainly not from a serious candidate for president of the United States.
Let's pull it apart.


"I don't want to make that decision on behalf of my children. I want my children to be able to make that decision on behalf of themselves, and I want them to be exposed to all the information. …"

Here's a guy running for president of the United States. He wants to make all kinds of decisions that will impact your life, the lives of your children, your neighbors, people around the world. But he doesn't want to make decisions about the moral education of his own children?

Do you believe this?

Would nothing offend him?

If his child's teacher read stories about bestiality to the class, would that bother him? Or would he reserve moral judgment? Would he let his own child decide what was right in his own eyes?

I think it should be obvious from this quote that John Edwards is not only disqualified from being president of the United States, he should be disqualified from serving on a local school board.

The man is nuts! He's certifiable. He wants the children to decide. Has he never read "Lord of the Flies"?

You know he doesn't mean it when he says he wants second-graders exposed to "all the information." But he says it anyway, because he doesn't want to offend a constituency he feels he needs to win the nomination. He would rather his children be morally molested in the classroom than take a stand against politically correct state indoctrination of his own children.
This man makes me sick.

He's not only disqualified from serving on the school board, his children should be taken away from him. He's disqualified from responsible parenthood.
But that's not the end of it. Let's continue our analysis of this psychobabble from the trial lawyer.

"Because I don't want to impose my view – nobody made me God – I don't get to decide on behalf of my family and my children. … I don't get to impose on them what it is that I believe is right."

If parents don't get to shape the values of their children, who does?
Evidently, John Edwards believes it is the role of the state.

It's kind of funny that he says, "Nobody made me God," because God actually charges parents with the responsibility of rearing their children. In other words, God wants parents to play God with their kids. He didn't leave it to professionals. He didn't leave it to schools. He didn't leave it to kings. He didn't even leave it to the priests. He left child-rearing to parents – and only to parents.

I've been listening to Edwards make moral pronouncements about what he will do as president. He'll impose on us national health care. He'll impose on us same-sex marriage. He'll impose on us draconian energy measures to fight "global warming."

He has no problem "playing God" with our economy, with our most basic freedoms, with our Constitution, with our way of life.
But please don't ask him to make decisions about appropriate reading material for his 7-year-old.
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Dankdude

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Like Bush hasn't played God with our economy, our constitution and basic freedoms?
Again your bucket holds no water, and your position is not on the moral high ground.
I can almost see that you don't want any Universal Health Care for adults, but come on, you also want to deny health care to children?

My God man, you don't have one shred of human compassion.
 

medicineman

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I'm pretty sure the anti-Edwards clan is also anti-Democratic, so what's the arguement really about? Let's see, Maybe, let us keep our humongous tax cuts,~LOL~. I can see you clearly now, Right wing idiots that love money and war. Well, you've certainly got your fill of both during the last 7 years. Hey if we promise to not tell your kids about homos will you vote Democratic. We could do like Ahmadinejad and tell them that there are no homos in the USA,~LOL~, I'll bet you'd like that, maybe start executing them like in Iran,~LOL~. You Idiots amaze even me who is a proven cynic. You know who I'm talking to.
 

ViRedd

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Isn't it interesting that the two proclaimed "Independents" here in the forum negelected to address anything in the article, but just attacked president Bush and myself instead? How disgustingly Left-Wing Democratic of them. ~lol~

Independents my ass!

Vi
 

silk

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I'm pretty sure the anti-Edwards clan is also anti-Democratic, so what's the arguement really about? Let's see, Maybe, let us keep our humongous tax cuts,~LOL~. I can see you clearly now, Right wing idiots that love money and war. Well, you've certainly got your fill of both during the last 7 years. Hey if we promise to not tell your kids about homos will you vote Democratic. We could do like Ahmadinejad and tell them that there are no homos in the USA,~LOL~, I'll bet you'd like that, maybe start executing them like in Iran,~LOL~. You Idiots amaze even me who is a proven cynic. You know who I'm talking to.
After Kerry lost the 2004 election he didn't even bother to show up and thank his supporters who had assembled in the center of Boston in the freezing cold. That was the last nail in the coffin for Kerry. If it was 3 years ago I could cite all the important legislation regarding economic policy or foreign policy that they were either absent from or voted for what became the now unpopular decision. The only thing you see clearly is your own hot air. If you bothered to explore people's viewpoints you might hear something new. :blsmoke:
 

Indie

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Isn\'t it interesting that the two proclaimed \"Independents\" here in the forum negelected to address anything in the article, but just attacked president Bush and myself instead? How disgustingly Left-Wing Democratic of them. ~lol~ Independents my ass!.................................................................................................................................LOL.... they love to claim that crap. \" Independent as my left nut\"
 

donnieosmond

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What a sad quote. Good thing I never planned on voting for him in the first place. There are simply better candidates.
 

medicineman

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Isn\'t it interesting that the two proclaimed \"Independents\" here in the forum negelected to address anything in the article, but just attacked president Bush and myself instead? How disgustingly Left-Wing Democratic of them. ~lol~ Independents my ass!.................................................................................................................................LOL.... they love to claim that crap. \" Independent as my left nut\"
Lets have a big Sig Heil for Indie,~LOL~. Indie you Nazi, where have you been hiding? Hasn't Bush killed enough for you yet? Come on out and play. Why don't you tell us all the wonderfus stuff Bush and the Repukes have done in the last 7 fucking years, oh thats right, outside of the Tax cuts for the rich, Not much positive to talk about, eh. So why don't we just bash a few Democrats that haven't had a hand in this insane policy that Bush has laid down. You are a hypocrite and an asshole, oh wait, did I mention the asshole part, ~LOL~, geeze, I almost forgot. Sig-Heil!
 

donnieosmond

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Yes you sound very educated slinging the word Nazi around as if it's deepest connotation is parallel to a US political party. Making light of a tragic event in world history by calling republicans Nazi's is what being an asshole is all about. Just because you have 3,600 posts doesn't afford you the right to be crude. All you sound like right now is misinformed. Arguing about politics calls for specific reasons not generalized rambling and when it becomes personal YOU lose all credibility sir.
 

7xstall

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Isn't it interesting that the two proclaimed "Independents" here in the forum negelected to address anything in the article, but just attacked president Bush and myself instead? How disgustingly Left-Wing Democratic of them. ~lol~

Independents my ass!

Vi
i was waiting to see what they'd say and it's truly amazing that they can completely ignore the deep faults of this hard-core leftist socialist demobot.

he is saying that a man should not be a father to his kids. who would ever vote for such a scumbag POS?

it's not for him to teach his kids, just shuffle them off to government schools and let them instill whatever values are the current trend??? wtf?

edwards is a repulsive maggot. nothing but a pandering liar.






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medicineman

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i was waiting to see what they'd say and it's truly amazing that they can completely ignore the deep faults of this hard-core leftist socialist demobot.

he is saying that a man should not be a father to his kids. who would ever vote for such a scumbag POS?

it's not for him to teach his kids, just shuffle them off to government schools and let them instill whatever values are the current trend??? wtf?

edwards is a repulsive maggot. nothing but a pandering liar.






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Easy bigboy, they'll start labeling you as an asshole like they do me, oh that's right you are one of them, how soon I forget. It's this: post stupid stuff and get stupid responses. Calling edwards names for his openness is just as bad as calling bush a Nazi, except Bush really is of the Nazi mindset. If you completely eliminated the constitution (BTW, that is what he is trying to do) you would have a tyrant just like hitler. He has already unilaterally invaded a soveriegn nation and is planning on another, what is the difference, I ask you? Is there really anyone left that will stick up for Bush? Hey speak up, I can't wait to see what kind of right wing rhetoric will come gurgling out. All you heathons that are basking in your precious tax cuts can start the rhetoric now.
 

7xstall

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sorry, med. this thread is about the convoluted "mind" of edwards... that's the ultra-rich trial lawyer guy who said fathers shouldn't teach their children anything. stay on topic. :)






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medicineman

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sorry, med. this thread is about the convoluted "mind" of edwards... that's the ultra-rich trial lawyer guy who said fathers shouldn't teach their children anything. stay on topic. :)






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Nothing to say about Edwards, just Edwards bashers.
 

7xstall

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Nothing to say about Edwards, just Edwards bashers.
being as objective as i can about this; if i'm just some guy who doesn't know what left or right is i would have to say that a man who believes the responsibility of raising his kids should be left to others is not a man at all.

why can't the left ever slam their own kind, is he protected by that Elite status which so many dems find contemptible in the right?

i mean, this is even worse than the flip flopping and spineless slithering that we've come expect from the left... the guy said that fathers shouldn't have a role in raising their own children. pathetic.






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medicineman

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being as objective as i can about this; if i'm just some guy who doesn't know what left or right is i would have to say that a man who believes the responsibility of raising his kids should be left to others is not a man at all.

why can't the left ever slam their own kind, is he protected by that Elite status which so many dems find contemptible in the right?

i mean, this is even worse than the flip flopping and spineless slithering that we've come expect from the left... the guy said that fathers shouldn't have a role in raising their own children. pathetic.






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I believe that is the spin put on what he really said and that was he didn't see a problem having his kids exposed to the gay culture in books. Maybe that is how you homophobes see it...... I can't be responsible for narrow views or narrow tolerances, I think they both suck!
 

7xstall

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I believe that is the spin put on what he really said and that was he didn't see a problem having his kids exposed to the gay culture in books. Maybe that is how you homophobes see it...... I can't be responsible for narrow views or narrow tolerances, I think they both suck!
nope, i'm not buying that. if that's what he wanted to say, as an eloquent multi-millionaire trial lawyer, he could have said it just as plain as you did.

his was a pandering, indecent response to a very basic question. he's an extremist wacko who thinks families are unneeded.

the left should be brave enough to at least ask him to clarify - if they aren't afraid of what else will fall out of his mouth! lol








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ViRedd

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In looking at the article in objective terms, which is neigh impossible for left wingers to do, I'd say the important point is ... the Left honestly believes that the Nanny State has ownership of our children and the parents are nothing more than the temporary caretakers. Nothing Nazi-like in that thinking is there? These people are to be feared as they are the enemies of liberty. Wake up Med.

Vi
 

medicineman

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nope, i'm not buying that. if that's what he wanted to say, as an eloquent multi-millionaire trial lawyer, he could have said it just as plain as you did.

his was a pandering, indecent response to a very basic question. he's an extremist wacko who thinks families are unneeded.

the left should be brave enough to at least ask him to clarify - if they aren't afraid of what else will fall out of his mouth! lol


Bull pucky, This is what he said. He said he would have no problems with a teacher reading a book to his 7 and 9 year olds with man to man or woman to woman relationships in a family scenario. Now how did you twist this to mean he Can't raise his own children? This is worse hate rhetoric then ever applied to bush. No bush haters ever went there. I think you are a Homophobe and a hypocrite. Read the transcript. It's the religious right that has set this country back a hundred years. Whats next? Burning at the stake. This is slander and maybe you should be careful as Big John is a renowned Lawyer




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