In the Aftermath of Trump's election loss.

DIY-HP-LED

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Grasshopper
Asshopper at times around here, we ain't always nice, except to good folks. If people inflict suffering over bullshit, I tend to take a dim view. Personal shit does not bother me, social shit and large scale suffering do. We are here to end suffering and there are many ways, it depends on our intention and that depends on our feelings, our heart. This is a wisdom practice too, though I might not sound too wise at times. :wink:
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Grasshopper
It's why like Buck, I tend to latch on early with these assholes and go straight for the throat, intentions and motives. No heart, no hope and other methods are used, if they want to inflict social suffering on others, I will teach them empathy using skillful means...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Pete Buttigieg: 'Each Passing Day That This Denial Goes On, It Has A Real Cost' | Andrea Mitchell

Pete Buttigieg joins Andrea Mitchell to discuss the delayed transition process, on which he says that "Each passing day that this denial goes on, it has a real cost." He also addresses reports and speculation that he could serve in a role in the Biden administration, saying that "I would love a chance to return to public service but that's for the president-elect to decide. This administration is going to have enthusiastic support from me whether I'm on the inside or outside."
 

TrippleDip

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If you don't even take the time to understand how these communities are packed in and have constant surveillance unlike anywhere else in America, you won't give a shit about random data points you want me to go fetch.
Clearly you're not a black man living in the city. Here's my and most other black peoples opinion of the police: they're great. In the last two months in my city block to 10 people have been shot and 3 or 4 at least killed, that I know about and I don't really go looking these things up - we have to pass the crime scenes on a daily basis. Two of the killings I got to hear the shots.

On an average day I will pass a dozen cops in my neighbourhood, as does anyone else. Guess what, especially now that it's dark when people are going to work everybody is glad to have to cop parked on the corner at 5am, especially women.

All of us are glad the cops are there. One of the killings last month there were no less than 26 cops on the ground going door to door - they are well received by everyone; everyone knows they are trying to keep our neighbourhood safe.

That rich white people living outside the cities think the police are keeping us down is completely laughable and reeks of book knowledge and ignorance/naivety at best, maliciousness at worst.

Guess what - constant surveillance keeps the criminals off the streets, deters kids from becoming criminals, keeps drugs away from kids, provide positive role models for the kids, gives someone children can or go to call for help. Cops are a cornerstone of a successful community, if you give gangs more license they will take it.

I don't get how you can ignore basic economics. First supply and demand, now the very basic "if you want less of something tax it, if you want more subsidise it" except want to remove tax on crime (police) while subsidizing homelessness and single parent households thinking it will somehow make the problem better instead of worse.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Clearly you're not a black man living in the city. Here's my and most other black peoples opinion of the police: they're great. In the last two months in my city block to 10 people have been shot and 3 or 4 at least killed, that I know about and I don't really go looking these things up - we have to pass the crime scenes on a daily basis. Two of the killings I got to hear the shots.

On an average day I will pass a dozen cops in my neighbourhood, as does anyone else. Guess what, especially now that it's dark when people are going to work everybody is glad to have to cop parked on the corner at 5am, especially women.

All of us are glad the cops are there. One of the killings last month there were no less than 26 cops on the ground going door to door - they are well received by everyone; everyone knows they are trying to keep our neighbourhood safe.

That rich white people living outside the cities think the police are keeping us down is completely laughable and reeks of book knowledge and ignorance/naivety at best, maliciousness at worst.

Guess what - constant surveillance keeps the criminals off the streets, deters kids from becoming criminals, keeps drugs away from kids, provide positive role models for the kids, gives someone children can or go to call for help. Cops are a cornerstone of a successful community, if you give gangs more license they will take it.

I don't get how you can ignore basic economics. First supply and demand, now the very basic "if you want less of something tax it, if you want more subsidise it" except want to remove tax on crime (police) while subsidizing homelessness and single parent households thinking it will somehow make the problem better instead of worse.
You sure are obsessed with black people, seems you got issues. Did a big black man touch you? Point to where on the doll.
 

TrippleDip

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Nope, people can decide that one for themselves. because of course he has. You need a Youtube video showing all the times Trump has gone back on actual guidelines and made it ok for his cult to disregard the masks, putting everyone in danger? Because I am sure they are out there. Maybe I will edit one in just for you.
You dismiss my data as cherry picking, if you are so sure you are not full of shit - post one time after april trump has told the general public not to wear masks. You are disingenuous.

You somehow think african americans want less police, my posts started with "if you want to help the black community, look at what black community leaders are saying, not some worldwide activist organization like blm. Black people on the streets want more police but you don't want to see it - you would rather there be high crime so you can continue to point to disparities as evidence pf racism. You are right - the racist policies of the left are failing to provide safe streets free of drugs and criminals leading the next generation into more of the same.

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Edit: I realize that you are not the one saying that trump killed people, but many are and the data just doesn't support that theory. Look at the graph. Whst did trump do mid june to cause a spike in cases? Repeatedly claiming covid was his fault is insane.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Just saw a story on Nicole Wallace about a sweet 5 year old girl who died from covid in Texas. Donald you cocksucker you broke my heart again. He should be tried for manslaughter minimum 2nd degree murder if they can make it stick, every case they can make hundreds of thousands of them.

This shit gets me pissed, the kid deserved better from her president, the guy who was suppose to defend and protect her. More from her moron and coward of a governor, more from 72 million moral failures.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You dismiss my data as cherry picking, if you are so sure you are not full of shit - post one time after april trump has told the general public not to wear masks. You are disingenuous.

You somehow think african americans want less police, my posts started with "if you want to help the black community, look at what black community leaders are saying, not some worldwide activist organization like blm. Black people on the streets want more police but you don't want to see it - you would rather there be high crime so you can continue to point to disparities as evidence pf racism. You are right - the racist policies of the left are failing to provide safe streets free of drugs and criminals leading the next generation into more of the same.

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Edit: I realize that you are not the one saying that trump killed people, but many are and the data just doesn't support that theory. Look at the graph. Whst did trump do mid june to cause a spike in cases? Repeatedly claiming covid was his fault is insane.
Worry more about raising yourself up and less about keeping them down, provided you have both the guts and brains.
 

TrippleDip

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Just saw a story on Nicole Wallace about a sweet 5 year old girl who died from covid in Texas. Donald you cocksucker you broke my heart again. He should be tried for manslaughter minimum 2nd degree murder if they can make it stick, every case they can make hundreds of thousands of them.

This shit gets me pissed, the kid deserved better from her president, the guy who was suppose to defend and protect her. More from her moron and coward of a governor, more from 72 million moral failures.
Reminder - for the third time. Trump has been telling people to wear masks since march (proof a couple posts up). Blm is responsible for the deaths clearly as their protests peaked june 6th, see graph. If you have evidence of something trump said that causes the spike right after the blm riots better than the blm riots post it or stfu. Repeating the same lies doesn't make it true.

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DIY-HP-LED

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Reminder - for the third time. Trump has been telling people to wear masks since march (proof a couple posts up). Blm is responsible for the deaths clearly as their protests peaked june 6th, see graph. If you have evidence of something trump said that causes the spike right after the blm riots better than the blm riots post it or stfu. Repeating the same lies doesn't make it true.

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Yeah, I saw that at the super spreader rallies in covid hotspots a few weeks ago. You must be a fucking idiot trying to troll with that horse shit, I can see why people can't even be bothered with you, it's just so fucking pathetic.
 

Bear420

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Oh DIY. I have never been a trumper. Everyone knows he's an idiot. Just the better choice once again. All my posts are about *individual* agency about choosing what's best *for you and yours*, and about going to primary sources as much as possible in order to draw your own conclusions rather than blindly following so-called "trusted sources". I am open to changing my mind on everything I talk about, that's *why* I talk about it. I fear a lot of people only talk about things to gain acceptance and social capital.

And my spelling is not that bad btw ;)
So you think Trumps a better choice than Biden ?

Trumps been nothing but a Thug, Trump is nothing. But he's is good at some things and really good at it, Lying, Stealing, Cheating, Power tripping, did I mention Lying ? wrap that all up in being a Criminal Period.
OH I forgot Cry baby too, lets not forget that. How in the fuck is he better than Biden? Someone who's worked their whole life to help others.

Times change and wise people Change with the times, Biden's Changed with time. Trumps is stuck in the 50s. Better of the two it's not even an argument.

The Better of the two ? Your really think so ? You say your Pro life, why is it when people say they're Pro life you forget that those "ADDICTS" you mention, Are just that, it's a Disease People need help you say they would rather be high than in a heated shelter ? What the fuck does that tell someone like you ? That they would choose to live like that instead of not ? Your only Pro-life when you can create an argument from it. You think Mr. Pro life Trumps better than Biden, but I only see on Man trying to stop or at least slow this Virus down. If Donny cared about life like he does keeping Mexican's out and every other Person that don't look like him. He would be telling people to wear a fucking Mask and Wash your hands keep a safe distance. But Nope he could give two shits about you or anyone in the U.S. He only cares about himself period can't you see that ?

Our Great Democracy is falling at the hands of Trump and People are gong to die, by not acknowledging his loss he's dividing us like never before with the exception of the Civil War which we may be heading for because of his antics, this is sad and very dangerous for all American's.

The Republican's should be held responsible for this and should charged with Treason against the United States of America.. Trumps got what he's got coming the truth will be told soon enough, If you believe it or not is up to you.
 

Fogdog

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So you think Trumps a better choice than Biden ?

Trumps been nothing but a Thug, Trump is nothing. But he's is good at some things and really good at it, Lying, Stealing, Cheating, Power tripping, did I mention Lying ? wrap that all up in being a Criminal Period.
OH I forgot Cry baby too, lets not forget that. How in the fuck is he better than Biden? Someone who's worked their whole life to help others.

Times change and wise people Change with the times, Biden's Changed with time. Trumps is stuck in the 50s. Better of the two it's not even an argument.

The Better of the two ? Your really think so ? You say your Pro life, why is it when people say they're Pro life you forget that those "ADDICTS" you mention, Are just that, it's a Disease People need help you say they would rather be high than in a heated shelter ? What the fuck does that tell someone like you ? That they would choose to live like that instead of not ? Your only Pro-life when you can create an argument from it. You think Mr. Pro life Trumps better than Biden, but I only see on Man trying to stop or at least slow this Virus down. If Donny cared about life like he does keeping Mexican's out and every other Person that don't look like him. He would be telling people to wear a fucking Mask and Wash your hands keep a safe distance. But Nope he could give two shits about you or anyone in the U.S. He only cares about himself period can't you see that ?

Our Great Democracy is falling at the hands of Trump and People are gong to die, by not acknowledging his loss he's dividing us like never before with the exception of the Civil War which we may be heading for because of his antics, this is sad and very dangerous for all American's.

The Republican's should be held responsible for this and should charged with Treason against the United States of America.. Trumps got what he's got coming the truth will be told soon enough, If you believe it or not is up to you.
Trump managed to unite the Democratic Party at least for a little while, so there is that.
 

hanimmal

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Clearly you're not a black man living in the city. Here's my and most other black peoples opinion of the police: they're great. In the last two months in my city block to 10 people have been shot and 3 or 4 at least killed, that I know about and I don't really go looking these things up - we have to pass the crime scenes on a daily basis. Two of the killings I got to hear the shots.

On an average day I will pass a dozen cops in my neighbourhood, as does anyone else. Guess what, especially now that it's dark when people are going to work everybody is glad to have to cop parked on the corner at 5am, especially women.

All of us are glad the cops are there. One of the killings last month there were no less than 26 cops on the ground going door to door - they are well received by everyone; everyone knows they are trying to keep our neighbourhood safe.

That rich white people living outside the cities think the police are keeping us down is completely laughable and reeks of book knowledge and ignorance/naivety at best, maliciousness at worst.

Guess what - constant surveillance keeps the criminals off the streets, deters kids from becoming criminals, keeps drugs away from kids, provide positive role models for the kids, gives someone children can or go to call for help. Cops are a cornerstone of a successful community, if you give gangs more license they will take it.

I don't get how you can ignore basic economics. First supply and demand, now the very basic "if you want less of something tax it, if you want more subsidise it" except want to remove tax on crime (police) while subsidizing homelessness and single parent households thinking it will somehow make the problem better instead of worse.
You are full of shit with what you have convinced yourself to believe.

You mix some reality in with a whole lot of nonsense, like most trolls will do to try to pretend like they have a point. You are so snowballed by your rural Canadian upbringing that you now think you have some cred because you say you live in a city where violence occurs.

No shit sherlock. Nobody is saying crime doesn't occur.

What you are too ignorant to try to understand is the generations of being picked apart in a over policed society stuffed into a very small area is the systemic issue. You are trying like hell to make this something that you don't have to actually reflect about how those kids are placed in a situation that leads them to getting put into a system at a very young vulnerable age that a kid in a rural/suburban community get away with not being subjected to the brutality that causes real damage.

Reminder - for the third time. Trump has been telling people to wear masks since march (proof a couple posts up). Blm is responsible for the deaths clearly as their protests peaked june 6th, see graph. If you have evidence of something trump said that causes the spike right after the blm riots better than the blm riots post it or stfu. Repeating the same lies doesn't make it true.

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Liar. You again ignore all the times that Trump also went back around and told his cult that masks are stupid.
You dismiss my data as cherry picking, if you are so sure you are not full of shit - post one time after april trump has told the general public not to wear masks. You are disingenuous.

You somehow think african americans want less police, my posts started with "if you want to help the black community, look at what black community leaders are saying, not some worldwide activist organization like blm. Black people on the streets want more police but you don't want to see it - you would rather there be high crime so you can continue to point to disparities as evidence pf racism. You are right - the racist policies of the left are failing to provide safe streets free of drugs and criminals leading the next generation into more of the same.

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Edit: I realize that you are not the one saying that trump killed people, but many are and the data just doesn't support that theory. Look at the graph. Whst did trump do mid june to cause a spike in cases? Repeatedly claiming covid was his fault is insane.
You fucking stupid or something?

June 20th Trump was holding a super spreader event in a building that led to a very high profile Republicans catching the virus and dying.
 

Fogdog

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Reminder - for the third time. Trump has been telling people to wear masks since march (proof a couple posts up). Blm is responsible for the deaths clearly as their protests peaked june 6th, see graph. If you have evidence of something trump said that causes the spike right after the blm riots better than the blm riots post it or stfu. Repeating the same lies doesn't make it true.

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Just quit lying to us about what Trump has been saying. We've all heard it and no, he's not been giving the kind of consistent message that is needed to get everybody to wear masks. He's given platitudes to wearing masks while mocking those who do.

Of all the shitty things you and other supporters of Trump do it's gaslighting. Well, actually doing things that kill people is worse but right now, you are gaslighting us and it's time that you stop with that abusive tactic.
 
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