Illegal vs hispanic
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does this sound like gang-related activity, or legitimate political organization??
Mindmelted
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This article does not pretain to the illegals who use La Raza for their hate and crime.
Nice try to twist it though.
And this part is best for America..
(La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.)
Nice try to twist it though.
And this part is best for America..
(La Raza continues to lobby the Senate for virtual open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.)
smokeymcpotz
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Exactly bro... mindmelted that kinda made ya look like a closet racist... u pulled the reparations card? i jus watched a kkk documentry on history channel that almost said word for word what your post said..damn! weird...was that u under the hood? lmao
Babs34
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Which part don't you get?
Smuggling tunnel found under Rio Grande in El Paso | AP Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle
JUNE 25
EL PASO, Texas U.S. officials on Friday discovered a smuggling tunnel running under the Rio Grande from Mexico into Texas, the first such tunnel in the region.
A sensor technician and a border agent found the crude 2-foot-by-2-foot tunnel connecting to a drainage tunnel at the border in El Paso, U.S. Border Patrol spokesman Doug Mosier said.
Babs34
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....and then the officer just throws them back out to do it again.....it's all BS. We, as LEGAL citizens, pay heavy consequences given the same scenario.
If the government persists on supporting this insanity, I persist they pay me back for all the woes caused me for their unjust services.
Babs34
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The NAACP........gee, now we are talking SENSE...........
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at your nonsense any longer.
You use the term "boogeyman" and I envision this ....oh never mind.
Your views are so lopsided........ONE SIDED. You are TRULY incapable of seeing any of this for what it is worth.
If you were able to ever post without using the term "boogeyman" and "racist"..I might even BEGIN to take any single thing you say seriously.
As of now, you have PROVEN yourself to be a SELF-RIGHTEOUS BIGOT.
Babs34
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Gee UB, thanks for sharing with us how once again we are supposed to ACCOMODATE THE ILLEGAL..........AT OUR EXPENSE NO DOUBT.
Edit: 50 cents my ass
smokeymcpotz
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exactly thank you..50 cent wouldnt cover the paper the policy goes on
abe23
Active Member
Wow, lots of really good posts. Good discussion...
Babs, it seems to me that your issue is more about uninsured drivers regardless of their immigration status.
And the same is true of a lot of this. Immigrants always get scapegoated for low wages, crime and various social ills, it's been like that forever. Is the reason there is so much crime on the southern border because of illegal immigrants or because of the drug war and the cartels?
My view on immigration is pretty simple. The reason we have so many people coming into the country illegally is because our legal immigration system is broken because it relies on artificial quotas and ceilings. If we had a guest worker program for seasonal labor, as well as easy h2b visas for skilled workers in IT, engineering, medicine and the like, it would greatly benefit our economy and stem the tide of people trying to enter illegally. The reason so many people try to come here is because there has for a long time been a huge demand for unskilled, mobile labor and many employers look the other way. Now, if the economy goes so bad that people start moving in the hopes of finding seasonal agricultural work, 1930s okhies style, then that obviously changes. Right now, you don't have a lot of laid-off software engineers willing to move halfway across the country do manual labor for 5 bucks an hour...
So until we can figure out how to let in enough of the right people, trying to lock down the border is a fools' errand. People will keep coming no matter what we do. It's just way too much border to be able to control the way you guys are suggesting without completely militarizing that whole area. But until you can take care of the supply and demand side of migrant labor, putting up bigger and bigger walls is pointless...
Babs, it seems to me that your issue is more about uninsured drivers regardless of their immigration status.
And the same is true of a lot of this. Immigrants always get scapegoated for low wages, crime and various social ills, it's been like that forever. Is the reason there is so much crime on the southern border because of illegal immigrants or because of the drug war and the cartels?
My view on immigration is pretty simple. The reason we have so many people coming into the country illegally is because our legal immigration system is broken because it relies on artificial quotas and ceilings. If we had a guest worker program for seasonal labor, as well as easy h2b visas for skilled workers in IT, engineering, medicine and the like, it would greatly benefit our economy and stem the tide of people trying to enter illegally. The reason so many people try to come here is because there has for a long time been a huge demand for unskilled, mobile labor and many employers look the other way. Now, if the economy goes so bad that people start moving in the hopes of finding seasonal agricultural work, 1930s okhies style, then that obviously changes. Right now, you don't have a lot of laid-off software engineers willing to move halfway across the country do manual labor for 5 bucks an hour...
So until we can figure out how to let in enough of the right people, trying to lock down the border is a fools' errand. People will keep coming no matter what we do. It's just way too much border to be able to control the way you guys are suggesting without completely militarizing that whole area. But until you can take care of the supply and demand side of migrant labor, putting up bigger and bigger walls is pointless...
UncleBuck
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my apologies, babs. i just checked my policy, it is $13.20 yearly for uninsured/underinsured motorists protection. so $1.10 a month.
and guess what? it protects me from ANY uninsured motorist! not just the illegals, but nice try at attempting to reframe the issue.
now if you'll excuse me, i have to go to home depot and find some illegals to mow my lawn for me.
Babs34
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my apologies, babs. i just checked my policy, it is $13.20 yearly for uninsured/underinsured motorists protection. so $1.10 a month.
and guess what? it protects me from ANY uninsured motorist! not just the illegals, but nice try at attempting to reframe the issue.
now if you'll excuse me, i have to go to home depot and find some illegals to mow my lawn for me.
LOL, and with a FAT deductible that YOU PAY......say otherwise, I call BS.
the problem is not with immigrants its with ILLEGAL immigrants and it just so happens that millions and millions of them are mexicans. they come over here illegally and its about time something is done. I vote for shooting them.
Babs34
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Nope, my issue is with illegal immigration, period, point blank.
Sorry to say, but I will not discuss this topic with someone any longer who claims the "issue at hand" to take care of the supply and demand SIDE of migrant labor....ridiculous.
And btw and a for the record, there is no demand for unskilled mobile workers...baloney.
It's getting old seeing others use that reference too as if carpentry, etc. are designed to be the "poor man's job"
There is NO shame in having these skills/talents.
Try also not placing the label "unskilled" or attempt to sell me on the notion that Americans are too lazy to perform this work.
Are you implying that the highly educated in America, without work, should travel abroad for five dollars an hour? They too are without work just so you know.
.....lazy ass's should get off their butts and start digging some tunnels.......to accomodate you and your line of thinking.
UncleBuck
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i say we start with the professional mailbox checkers.Try also not placing the label "unskilled" or attempt to sell me on the notion that Americans are too lazy to perform this work.
Are you implying that the highly educated in America, without work, should travel abroad for five dollars an hour? They too are without work just so you know.
Babs34
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What you don't seem to get is that what you say doesn't matter.....and that's what? the third or fourth time you've used the term "mailbox checker?" I'm going to finally respond by saying I don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Stick with the topic at hand. You do nothing but instigate pure garbage with people who aren't in line with your ridiculous claim to logic.
You are way off base with most, if not ALL of your posts.
Stick with the topic at hand. You do nothing but instigate pure garbage with people who aren't in line with your ridiculous claim to logic.
You are way off base with most, if not ALL of your posts.
Babs34
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oh.......and btw, professional entails being paid....this was the topic at hand, yes?i say we start with the professional mailbox checkers.
Your posts show your age.
abe23
Active Member
Hahaha......Nope, my issue is with illegal immigration, period, point blank.
Sorry to say, but I will not discuss this topic with someone any longer who claims the "issue at hand" to take care of the supply and demand SIDE of migrant labor....ridiculous.
And btw and a for the record, there is no demand for unskilled mobile workers...baloney.
It's getting old seeing others use that reference too as if carpentry, etc. are designed to be the "poor man's job"
There is NO shame in having these skills/talents.
Try also not placing the label "unskilled" or attempt to sell me on the notion that Americans are too lazy to perform this work.
Are you implying that the highly educated in America, without work, should travel abroad for five dollars an hour? They too are without work just so you know.
So you're not going to discuss this with me because you find my views so offensive (which is ridiculous in itself) yet you do post a whole paragraph of what looks suspiciously like discussion....?
And how is taking the demand-side of immigration into account ridiculous? That's the exact same logic the drug warriors use, by the way...
You might want to inform yourself a bit better about the US labor market. There are huge shortages of labor in some parts of the country and immigrants (legal or otherwise) tend to be the only ones filling the gaps. If there were a guest worker program for people to come work here during harvest season and then go home, there wouldn't be a need for big food companies to hire so many illegals. And I'm sorry you find the term 'unskilled labor' offensive, but that's the term in economics for people who have no particular qualifications and no high school diploma. And it actually doesn't include a lot of what you're thinking either....i.e. carpenters, auto mechanics, plumbers are all skilled laborers.
I don't really understand the last part of your post...sorry, but I don't think software engineers should be digging tunnels to mexico if that's what you're asking. They should be writing software....