If you had to grow one plant what would it be?

Kushash said:

The additional electricity used when vegging longer.
The additional time and work when vegging longer.
Harvesting less often. Maybe 3 harvests instead of 4 per year.

And the biggest factor IMO when reading a fairly new members posted results.
What % are honest results and what % are fabricated results because less than 1 gram per watt is no longer cool. It's got to be 1.5 grams now or is it 2 lol.

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Yeah we all are definitely not French models! lol

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MichiganMedGrower said:

I bend and tie down branches (lst) and also supercrop (pinch and fold) them to maintain an even canopy.

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Pinch and fold do you have a pic of this by they way I tied my taller plants down woke up they are already headed up again love these plants. Thank you

Northernone666 said:

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Pinch and fold do you have a pic of this by they way I tied my taller plants down woke up they are already headed up again love these plants. Thank you

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I will look through my pics. Search supercropping for tutorials.

The branches will still come back up. It is an ongoing battle sometimes.

I can’t find a good close up but his branch was pinched to soften the stem and then folded over.

Usually a fatter knuckle forms at the bend. This one just resumed its original shape pretty much.



But you still may have to tie the branch down or keep training etc.

MichiganMedGrower said:

I can’t find a good close up but his branch was pinched to soften the stem and then folded over.

Usually a fatter knuckle forms at the bend. This one just resumed its original shape pretty much.

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But you still may have to tie the branch down or keep training etc.

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Wow that’s a monster z what are you feeding them small children lol that’s a beauty.

MichiganMedGrower said:

I will look through my pics. Search supercropping for tutorials.

The branches will still come back up. It is an ongoing battle sometimes.

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For those stubborn branches I temporarily hold them down for a week or so. A fishing weight on a short piece of line with a hook. Hang like a Xmas ornament. Vary the size of the weight depending on how stubborn the branch is. In a week or so you can remove it. Super easy. Even better just get stoner creative. Use what's at hand. It ain't rocket science folks!

Stink Bug said:

For those stubborn branches I temporarily hold them down for a week or so. A fishing weight on a short piece of line with a hook. Hang like a Xmas ornament. Vary the size of the weight depending on how stubborn the branch is. In a week or so you can remove it. Super easy. Even better just get stoner creative. Use what's at hand. It ain't rocket science folks!

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Good tip!

Stink Bug said:

For those stubborn branches I temporarily hold them down for a week or so. A fishing weight on a short piece of line with a hook. Hang like a Xmas ornament. Vary the size of the weight depending on how stubborn the branch is. In a week or so you can remove it. Super easy. Even better just get stoner creative. Use what's at hand. It ain't rocket science folks!

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Lol ok

Stink Bug said:

The whole gpw is pretty subjective. It all depends on your style of growing. Say one grower does just a few plants and a longer veg period to attain 1gpw. And another grower does more plants with a shorter veg and attains the same 1gpw. Assuming they both used the same wattage lights, say 400 in veg and 1000 in flower. And the same strain. The grower only running a few plants will have spent more on his electric bill than the grower running more plants with a shorter veg to attain the same yield. It's more about kilowatt hours per gram. Rather than grams per watt.

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No its about grams per watt with sog growers who wanted to compare grow skills and strain yeilds.

Nowdays its taken out of context, wjich is fine as long as you apply the original maths e.g. 2gpw scrog is certainly not more than 1gpw sog over the year.

This is what drives the hate for the method, unclear maths. Most newbies hit this site thinking scrogs yeild the most.... Hmmmm i wonder why thqt is......!!!

MichiganMedGrower said:

I will look through my pics. Search supercropping for tutorials.

The branches will still come back up. It is an ongoing battle sometimes.

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Ongoing battle all the time! Heres my take....
Yield also has a lot to do with strain also. Keep in mind some of the best smoke comes from low yielders.
Scroging is ment for situations ware height is limited or to make a low plant count fill a large area. It by no means is the highest yielding of the growing methods. If it were thats is how the comercial grows would do it. They all run S.O.G. You experienced higher yield with scroging that others you tried only because your area was filled ( any place light hits the floor is loss in potential yield) and all the tops were the same height. See the post earlier about hormone distribution.
I run a mainline. Instead of stakes for support i use a double layered metal trellis. Stakes keep poking me in the face and get in the way when i feed. I supercrop to keep the tops the same height. The string get in my way when im feeding also so i dont L.S.T. Supercroping is labor intensive but well worth it

Here is ayoung mainlined plant before and after supercroping

Supercroping needs to be done every few days in veg to keep a flat canopy

Dynamo626 said:

Ongoing battle all the time! Heres my take....
Yield also has a lot to do with strain also. Keep in mind some of the best smoke comes from low yielders.
Scroging is ment for situations ware height is limited or to make a low plant count fill a large area. It by no means is the highest yielding of the growing methods. If it were thats is how the comercial grows would do it. They all run S.O.G. You experienced higher yield with scroging that others you tried only because your area was filled ( any place light hits the floor is loss in potential yield) and all the tops were the same height. See the post earlier about hormone distribution.
I run a mainline. Instead of stakes for support i use a double layered metal trellis. Stakes keep poking me in the face and get in the way when i feed. I supercrop to keep the tops the same height. The string get in my way when im feeding also so i dont L.S.T. Supercroping is labor intensive but well worth it

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Good info here! And such a beautiful garden you have there!

But I must say I have not done a scrog. I grow 30” tall bushes all in different stages at the same time. It’s how I stay in Michigan plant count and usable meds on hand for medical. I crop a plant at a time perpetually.

Every plant needs to be able to be moved at all times.

I like his thread. It is showing how we use different methods to control our individual situations.

Everyone can take something from this kind of discussion. Good stuff!

Also. We can all increase our yields (and quality) with practice.

I have been growing personally for 4.5 years now. Although I have a lot of history with the flowers and growers I never even watered a houseplant before this.

3 years ago I could count on 2 oz per plant of very good flowers. I have been using the same equipment and seeds since then and now average 5 oz per plant in the same #3 nursery pots, potting soil and nutes (which I have tried a few with the same results pretty much). And Seeds. But now I can grow most any decent seed into a good plant. From practice.

Also commercial growers in legal states ask me to send them headstash and coconut oil now so my quality has increased as well.

And illnesses have healed in patients.

Point is. Every grow is different and we must find our own methods and style. And then practice!

There is no magic best way.

Very nice

MichiganMedGrower said:

Good info here!

But I must say I have not done a scrog. I grow 30” tall bushes all in different stages at the same time. It’s how I stay in Michigan plant count and usable meds on hand for medical. I crop a plant at a time perpetually.

Every plant needs to be able to be moved at all times.

I like his thread. It is showing how we use different methods to control our individual situations.

Everyone can take something from this kind of discussion. Good stuff!

Also. We can all increase our yields (and quality) with practice.

I have been growing personally for 4.5 years now. Although I have a lot of history with the flowers and growers I never even watered a houseplant before this.

3 years ago I could count on 2 oz per plant of very good flowers. I have been using the same equipment and seeds since then and now average 5 oz per plant in the same #3 nursery pots, potting soil and nutes (which I have tried a few with the same results pretty much). And Seeds. But now I can grow most any decent seed into a good plant. From practice.

Also commercial growers in legal states ask me to send them headstash and coconut oil now so my quality has increased as well.

And illnesses have healed in patients.

Point is. Every grow is different and we must find our own methods and style. And then practice!

There is no magic best way.

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And very very well said.

Northernone666 said:

And very very well said.

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Thank you. So many threads go to silly arguments. I read here for years before I joined and It was confusing to know what to do.

So I just did what ed rosenthals book told me pretty much.

But once you can muttle through all the bullshit and ego (I am as guilty as anyone here) there are so many great growers with so much experience and style to draw from.

Good luck brother. Your plant is beautiful. And you got great info and pics to get going.

And forgot. When I was working last night and put the plants back I noticed a couple good pinch and bend shots to take.



You can see the branches have fully healed into a “knuckle” and stretched back up. I bent them back down many times.

Northernone666 said:

And very very well said.

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Agreed very well said.. happy growing

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MichiganMedGrower said:

And forgot. When I was working last night and put the plants back I noticed a couple good pinch and bend shots to take.

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You can see the branches have fully healed into a “knuckle” and stretched back up. I bent them back down many times.

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Beautifulness and thank for the excellent tips broths.

Dynamo626 said:

View attachment 4181318 View attachment 4181319 View attachment 4181320 Here is ayoung mainlined plant before and after supercroping

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Sweet very nice