I smoked a sativa but felt sleepy??

Roger A. Shrubber

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What strain make you energize uplifted and motivated?
look at your local shop without buying anything, see what they have available. then go home and go to a few different sources and see what they have to say. go back to your shop after you've done a little research, and buy the smallest quantity you can of each one that looks promising , and try each one on separate days. make it the first smoke of the day, so you can see what it feels like on a clear head. compare your findings to leafly, potguide.com, wikileaf, medicaljane.....see if any of their reviews match your own findings. then you'll know whose taste match your own, and whose recommendations to take in the future.
 

pulpoinspace

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i've been smoking weed for 20 years, everyday all day, so tens of thousands of sessions
i've smoked indica/sativa/hybrids/hash/every concentrate i could find
i've smoked weed/hash in 10 different countries

every single time i got high i got sleepy. every, single, time.

the times i didn't get sleepy, it's cause i didn't get high enough
 

Scaccia450

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tried headband great strain though was disapointed not the tyoe of high was looking for. it felt like a hybird at first the indica kicks in the a mallow sativa uplifting but later more indica. :sleep::???::eyesmoke:
 

A.K.A. Overgrowem

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jack herer
train wreck
panama red
malawi
any haze (lemon/silver etc).

These are more uplifiting smokes. Some of the hybrids start off sativa and then the indica kicks in and makes you sleepy and relaxed. Look for more sativa in your sativa.
You got it. Peeps are posting they want to explore Sativas and the first thing they type is, hybrid, dominant, shades of, etc.. IF YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE SATIVAS?..... SMOKE SATIVAS!!!!!. Grow yourself some land race Sativa, Panama Red, Acapulco Gold ( If it still exists? There is a bogus Acapulco Gold seed being sold.) Maui. Maybe some Hendrix or Marley favorites. Before Hydro everything in my part of the country was Sativa. It is a much different social experience than Kush. Occasionally rolling on the floor laughing happens, busting out laughing while being talked to happens, watching a 1959 western and rating it the best movie ever made happens. The realm of Sativa is FAB. Grow yourself into it. A new world may open for you.
 
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gwheels

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You got it. Peeps are posting they want to explore Sativas and the first thing they type is, hybrid, dominant, shades of, etc.. IF YOU WANT TO EXPERIENCE SATIVAS?..... SMOKE SATIVAS!!!!!. Grow yourself some land race Sativa, Panama Red, Acapulco Gold ( If it still exists? There is a bogus Acapulco Gold seed being sold.) Maui. Maybe some Hendrix or Marley favorites. Before Hydro everything in my part of the country was Sativa. It is a much different social experience than Kush. Occasionally rolling on the floor laughing happens, busting out laughing while being talked to happens, watching a 1959 western and rating it the best movie ever made happens. The realm of Sativa is FAB. Grow yourself into it. A new world may open for you.
Malawi X Panama was REALLY good (is).
I just got some Kwazulu and I can't wait to try it. I love landrace sativas and the crosses (i have coco melon too). I had no idea how good they were until i grew one outside this summer. They are also fantastic outdoor plants for my climate. Mold resistant and sturdy.
 

Quani

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The best would probably to go for CBD sativa dominant, it is usually low THC so your are not tripping and it shouldnt be heavy on the body.
If you want more THC, Congo from Ace keeps the mind clear. I wouldnt go for malawi or jack herer if you want to stay functional. Malawi is said to not being mixed with alcohol..
 

A.K.A. Overgrowem

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Malawi X Panama was REALLY good (is).
I just got some Kwazulu and I can't wait to try it. I love landrace sativas and the crosses (i have coco melon too). I had no idea how good they were until i grew one outside this summer. They are also fantastic outdoor plants for my climate. Mold resistant and sturdy.
Snip and cure a few nugs. 10 days and 5 days before harvest. I find unripe sativa to be fabulous.
 

gwheels

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Snip and cure a few nugs. 10 days and 5 days before harvest. I find unripe sativa to be fabulous.
I can honestly say i never had true sativa until that malawi panama. I have grown ones that are close.
The flavot is insanely goof and the 3 different highs om the same doob .

So crearive and wonderful.
 

Scaccia450

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The best would probably to go for CBD sativa dominant, it is usually low THC so your are not tripping and it shouldnt be heavy on the body.
If you want more THC, Congo from Ace keeps the mind clear. I wouldnt go for malawi or jack herer if you want to stay functional. Malawi is said to not being mixed with alcohol..
yea a low tch cbd sativa would be aswome.
 

Scaccia450

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jack herer
train wreck
panama red
malawi
any haze (lemon/silver etc).

These are more uplifiting smokes. Some of the hybrids start off sativa and then the indica kicks in and makes you sleepy and relaxed. Look for more sativa in your sativa.
Wait so any haze is a good energetic sativa? Like Delahaze? or what about blue dream blueberry mix with haze?
 

jimihendrix1

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Many of the old Mexican Sativas of the early 70s would knock you on your ass, and make you paranoid at the same time. You raid the fridge, and the couch wouldn't be far behind.

MYTH Sativas are all uplifting.

Also all drug varieties are INDICA.

They are either Narrow, and Wide Leaf.


Although the cannabis varieties we consume largely stem from Cannabis indica, both terms are used–even if erroneously–to organize the thousands of strains circulating the market today.

Here’s how terms have shifted since their earliest botanical definitions:

  • Today, “sativa” refers to tall, narrow-leaf varieties of cannabis, thought to induce energizing effects. However, these narrow-leaf drug (NLD) varieties were originally Cannabis indica ssp. indica.
  • “Indica” has come to describe stout, broad-leaf plants, thought to deliver sedating effects. These broad-leaf drug (BLD) varieties are technically Cannabis indica ssp. afghanica.
  • What we call “hemp” refers to the industrial, non-intoxicating varieties harvested primarily for fiber, seeds, and CBD. However, this was originally named Cannabis sativa.
 

A.K.A. Overgrowem

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Many of the old Mexican Sativas of the early 70s would knock you on your ass, and make you paranoid at the same time. You raid the fridge, and the couch wouldn't be far behind.

MYTH Sativas are all uplifting.

Also all drug varieties are INDICA.

They are either Narrow, and Wide Leaf.


Although the cannabis varieties we consume largely stem from Cannabis indica, both terms are used–even if erroneously–to organize the thousands of strains circulating the market today.

Here’s how terms have shifted since their earliest botanical definitions:

  • Today, “sativa” refers to tall, narrow-leaf varieties of cannabis, thought to induce energizing effects. However, these narrow-leaf drug (NLD) varieties were originally Cannabis indica ssp. indica.
  • “Indica” has come to describe stout, broad-leaf plants, thought to deliver sedating effects. These broad-leaf drug (BLD) varieties are technically Cannabis indica ssp. afghanica.
  • What we call “hemp” refers to the industrial, non-intoxicating varieties harvested primarily for fiber, seeds, and CBD. However, this was originally named Cannabis sativa.
I don't know about some of this. What are your sources? Sativa = "Cannabis indica ssp. indica"??
 

dandyrandy

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I find diesels that I grow to be speedy. I have a cherry diesel that is speedy as well as lemon pucker, pucker tang which I just hit with cop chem. I have a pheno of night rider that is racy as heck too. I try to find uplifting speedy phenos. Some are euphoric as well. But at the end you will be tired if it's a good one. The night rider pheno I hit with the cop chem is as good as I've seen. A bit much if you have paranoia issues though.
 

gwheels

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Many of the old Mexican Sativas of the early 70s would knock you on your ass, and make you paranoid at the same time. You raid the fridge, and the couch wouldn't be far behind.

MYTH Sativas are all uplifting.

Also all drug varieties are INDICA.

They are either Narrow, and Wide Leaf.


Although the cannabis varieties we consume largely stem from Cannabis indica, both terms are used–even if erroneously–to organize the thousands of strains circulating the market today.

Here’s how terms have shifted since their earliest botanical definitions:

  • Today, “sativa” refers to tall, narrow-leaf varieties of cannabis, thought to induce energizing effects. However, these narrow-leaf drug (NLD) varieties were originally Cannabis indica ssp. indica.
  • “Indica” has come to describe stout, broad-leaf plants, thought to deliver sedating effects. These broad-leaf drug (BLD) varieties are technically Cannabis indica ssp. afghanica.
  • What we call “hemp” refers to the industrial, non-intoxicating varieties harvested primarily for fiber, seeds, and CBD. However, this was originally named Cannabis sativa.
they are two different genus of the same species. I believe you information is spurious.
 

Scaccia450

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I find diesels that I grow to be speedy. I have a cherry diesel that is speedy as well as lemon pucker, pucker tang which I just hit with cop chem. I have a pheno of night rider that is racy as heck too. I try to find uplifting speedy phenos. Some are euphoric as well. But at the end you will be tired if it's a good one. The night rider pheno I hit with the cop chem is as good as I've seen. A bit much if you have paranoia issues though.
ohh wish i can get one of those at the moment i can only get blue dream or delahaze wich one you think is more energetic? or are they both enrgetic?
 

Scaccia450

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The best would probably to go for CBD sativa dominant, it is usually low THC so your are not tripping and it shouldnt be heavy on the body.
If you want more THC, Congo from Ace keeps the mind clear. I wouldnt go for malawi or jack herer if you want to stay functional. Malawi is said to not being mixed with alcohol..

oh did have one almost harle tsu a sativa dominaint. it was 1thc and 13 cbd!! boy when i smoked this strain i felt a amazing malow buzz and clear head than a calm happy mind and motivated but it did not make me sleepy or paranoid or anxiety or impaired. also felt energetic, For anxiety it was amazing specialy for social anxiety what a must, at night time i sleeped so amazing no racing alerts.
 

ANC

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If sativas are ripened too much they will have lots of CBN and knock you flat into bed.

To enjoy landrace sativas properly you need to grow tonnes of it cause that is how often you need to smoke... (not that it is a problem)
 

jimihendrix1

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he words “indica” and “sativa” were introduced in the 18th century to describe different species of cannabis: Cannabis sativa and Cannabis indica. The term sativa, named by Carl Linneaus, described hemp plants found in Europe and western Eurasia, where it was cultivated for its fiber and seeds

Carl Linneaus is the Father of Taxonomy

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Carl Linnaeus (Carl von Linné)

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Carl Linnaeus (/lɪˈniːəs, lɪˈneɪəs/;[1][2] 23 May[note 1] 1707 – 10 January 1778), also known after his ennoblement as Carl von Linné[3] (Swedish pronunciation: [ˈkɑːɭ fɔn lɪˈneː] (listen)), was a Swedish botanist, physician, and zoologist who formalised binomial nomenclature, the modern system of naming organisms. He is known as the "father of modern taxonomy".[4] Many of his writings were in Latin, and his name is rendered in Latin as Carolus Linnæus (after 1761 Carolus a Linné).

Linnaeus was born in the countryside of Småland in southern Sweden. He received most of his higher education at Uppsala University and began giving lectures in botany there in 1730. He lived abroad between 1735 and 1738, where he studied and also published the first edition of his Systema Naturae in the Netherlands. He then returned to Sweden where he became professor of medicine and botany at Uppsala. In the 1740s, he was sent on several journeys through Sweden to find and classify plants and animals. In the 1750s and 1760s, he continued to collect and classify animals, plants, and minerals, while publishing several volumes. He was one of the most acclaimed scientists in Europe at the time of his death.


This belief that indicas and sativas deliver distinct effects is so deeply rooted in mainstream cannabis culture that budtenders typically begin their strain recommendations by asking you which of these three types you prefer.

However, data collected by cannabis researchers suggests these categories aren’t as prescriptive as one might hope—in other words, there’s little evidence to suggest that indicas and sativas exhibit a consistent pattern of chemical profiles that would make one inherently sedating and the other uplifting. We do know that indica and sativa cannabis strains look different and grow differently, but this distinction is primarily useful only to cannabis cultivators.

So how exactly did the words “indica” and “sativa” make it into the vernacular of cannabis consumers worldwide, and to what extent are they meaningful when choosing a strain?


Cannabis indica, named by Jean-Baptiste Lamarck, describes the psychoactive varieties discovered in India, where it was harvested for its seeds, fiber, and hashish production.
 

Boberman

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Unless you grew it yourself who knows what it really is you can tell some strains by smell for example OG. Even then though it could be a hybrid. For all you know you might have a indica dom strain.
 

jimihendrix1

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Origins of Cannabis sativa
The scientific name Cannabis sativa was first published in 1753 by the Swedish botanist Carl Linnaeus who is known today as the father of modern taxonomy, the science of classifying organisms. The term sativa simply means “cultivated” and describes the common hemp plant grown widely across Europe in his time. C. sativa is native to Europe and western Eurasia where it has been grown for millennia as a fiber and seed crop, and was introduced to the New World during European colonization. In short, we wear C. sativa fibers and we eat C. sativa seeds and seed oil, but we do not smoke C. sativa plants as they have little ability to produce the cannabinoid delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol or THC, the primary psychoactive and medically valuable compound found in Cannabis. In addition, compared to the essential oil of C. indica varieties, C. sativa produces less quantity and variety of terpenes, which are increasingly shown to be of importance in the efficacy of Cannabis medicines. C. sativa represents a very small portion of the genetic diversity seen in Cannabis worldwide, and it is not divided into subspecies based on differing origins and uses like C. indica. Linnaeus likely had never even seen any drug Cannabis, and it is incorrect to use “sativa” to describe drug varieties.

Origins of Cannabis indica
More than 30 years later, in 1785, French naturalist Jean-Baptiste Lamarck described and named a second species, Cannabis indica, meaning the Cannabis from India where the first samples of the plant reaching Europe originated. C. indica is native to eastern Eurasia and was spread by humans around the world primarily as a source of psychoactive THC. C. indica is used for marijuana and hashish production, but in many regions of eastern Asia it has a long history of cultivation for its strong fibers and nutritious seeds. In short, we wear C. indica fibers, and we eat C. indica seeds and seed oil, but we also use C. indica as a valuable recreational and medicinal plant. C. indica includes the vast majority of Cannabis varieties living today and is divided into several subspecies with differing origins and uses.


Type specimens of C. sativa NLH, C. indica NLD and C. ruderalis the PA or NLHA. (From Cannabis: Evolution and Ethnobotany)
The Cannabis debate
Since the 1960s taxonomists have championed several different naming systems. Many preferred a three species concept by recognizing C. ruderalis as a wild species possibly ancestral to both C. sativa and C. indica. Others chose to reduce C. indica and C. ruderalis to subspecies or varieties of a single species C. sativa. In the late 1970s markedly different appearing hashish varieties were introduced to the West from Afghanistan and considered by some to be the true C. indica and by others as a fourth species C. afghanica, while all the other drug varieties were held to be members of C. sativa following the single species model. By the dawn of the new millennium confusion and disagreement reigned, but better science would prevail.

Reconciliation through taxonomic groupings
Karl Hillig at Indiana University (published 2004, 2005) investigated the diversity of Cannabis by characterizing the chemical contents of plants from a wide range of geographical origins and usages; and he proposed taxonomic groupings (subspecies) that both reconciled the previous naming systems, and fit well into a hypothetical model for the evolution of Cannabis. Hillig’s research supports the original two-species concept for Cannabis—C. sativa Linnaeus and C. indica Lamarck—with C. indica being far more genetically diverse than C. sativa. Hillig recognized the European cultivated subspecies as C. sativa ssp. sativa. Because it typically has narrow leaflets and is used for hemp fiber and seed production, he named it narrow-leaf hemp or NLH. He also identified spontaneously growing wild or feral populations previously called C. ruderalis as C. sativa ssp. spontanea which he named the putative ancestor or PA and I refer to as the narrow-leaf hemp ancestor or NLHA.

Four C. indica sub-species
Hillig grouped C. indica varieties into four subspecies—three based on their diverse morphological and biochemical traits, and another characterized largely by its spontaneous growth habit.

Subspecies indica
indica ssp. indica varieties range across the Indian subcontinent from Southeast Asia to western India and into Africa. This is what Lamarck described as C. indica or Indian Cannabis. Subspecies indica populations are characterized as having a high content of THC with little if any cannabidiol or CBD—the second most common cannabinoid, which is non-psychoactive, and has also been shown to have medical efficacy. By the 19th century these drug varieties reached the Caribbean region of the New World, steadily spread throughout Central and South America, and since the 1960s have been exported to Europe, North America and beyond forming the early sin semilla marijuana gene pool. Marijuana users commonly call them “sativas” because their leaflets are relatively narrow, especially in relation to the Afghan varieties or “indicas” that were introduced later, and therefore exhibit a superficial resemblance to European C. sativa narrow-leaf hemp or NLH plants. However, this is a misnomer as C. sativa plants produce little if any THC. Based on Hillig’s research we now call members of C. indica ssp. indica narrow-leaf drug or NLD varieties, because although they also have narrow leaflets, they produce THC and are therefore drug varieties.

Subspecies afghanica
Subspecies afghanica originated in Afghanistan and neighboring Pakistan, where crops were traditionally grown to manufacture sieved hashish. From 1974, when Afghan Cannabis was first described in English by Harvard professor Richard Schultes, it became readily apparent that it represented a type of drug Cannabis previously unknown to Westerners. Its short robust stature and broad, dark-green leaves distinguished it from the taller, lighter green and more laxly branched NLD varieties. By the late 1970s seeds of Afghan hashish varieties reached Europe and North America and were rapidly disseminated among marijuana growers. At this time all Cannabis varieties were commonly considered to be members of C. sativa, and the familiar NLD marijuana varieties were called “sativas” to differentiate them from the newly introduced and quite different looking varieties called “indicas.” Hillig named the Afghan hashish varieties C. indica ssp. afghanica and I call them broad-leaf drug or BLD varieties to differentiate them from NLD varieties. BLD populations can have CBD levels equal to those of THC. Both subspecies indica and subspecies afghanica produce a wide array of aromatic compounds that are important in determining their physical and mental effects.


Richard Evans Schultes with C. indica ssp. afghanica broad-leaf drug or BLD plants in Afghanistan. (From Cannabis: Evolution and Ethnobotany; courtesy of Neil Schultes)
 
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