I hate to say it.....

mooray said:

Well for starters, try quitting your job.

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Got fired. I guess I wasn't doing it right. Sigh.

mooray said:

The government is a group of people we've chosen to do certain things for us because we like roads and emergency services and a rules system designed to deter people from doing things to us we don't like. If you're not into that, then the US isn't for you, nor was it ever.

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Oh that's a relief then. I thought they were the people that bombed the fuck out of the rest of the world and sent guys with guns and dogs after peaceful gardeners. Thanks for enlightening me.

Just pointing out the obvious, that you can't really complaint about the master/slave relationship with the government without having a much larger complaint about the employer/employee monetary dependency we have in the country.

I can’t believe anyone even opened the stupid fucking thing.

Rob Roy said:

Oh that's a relief then. I thought they were the people that bombed the fuck out of the rest of the world and sent guys with guns and dogs after peaceful gardeners. Thanks for enlightening me.

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Yeah they do that too. You were expecting me to cover everything we've done over a quarter millennium here in this post? There was a lady named Cindy that worked for the gov't that took a big shit once and didn't wash her hands. How far are we going here?

Rob Roy said:

If private entities aren't the government....who or what is "the government" ?

I think the government is just a legal fiction, populated by people who sometimes claim rights other people don't have out of one side of their mouths, while also declaring, "but YOU, the people, are the government" or some other nonsense.

Anyhow, does it concern you at all that a vaccine maker has been granted immunity by government people ?

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Howdy Robert! I'll play along. So is your premise that there should be no government? No laws? No regulation whatsoever? All left to their sovereignty and trusted to perform with some modicum of decency?

It's not a trick question. I'm genuinely curious.

He won't say it directly, but yes. There's a new wave of people that want anarchy so they can put their god back in office.

mooray said:

Just pointing out the obvious, that you can't really complaint about the master/slave relationship with the government without having a much larger complaint about the employer/employee monetary dependency we have in the country.

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You're swinging and missing slugger.

A master / slave relationship as in the one that government puts on people is involuntary. You can't really exit it without some form of duress, death even. Doesn't matter if you are peaceful.

An employment relationship is a mutual agreement and either party can choose to leave it of their own volition...voluntary.

carlsbarn said:

Howdy Robert! I'll play along. So is your premise that there should be no government? No laws? No regulation whatsoever? All left to their sovereignty and trusted to perform with some modicum of decency?

It's not a trick question. I'm genuinely curious.

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Howdy Carl!

My premise is that voluntary human relations are better than involuntary ones and that it is impossible for individuals to delegate rights that they don't possess.

This should be fun, please continue while I roll a giant fucking joint and search for a lighter.

mooray said:

He won't say it directly, but yes. There's a new wave of people that want anarchy so they can put their god back in office.

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Okay, I'll bite. Who do you think is my god ?

Rob Roy said:

You're swinging and missing slugger.

A master / slave relationship as in the one that government puts on people is involuntary. You can't really exit it without some form of duress, death even. Doesn't matter if you are peaceful.

An employment relationship is a mutual agreement and either party can choose to leave it of their own volition...voluntary.

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What do you mean? If you disagree with the foundation of the country and what's written in the constitution, you're free to leave it as you would a job. Please explain how you're forced to stay and participate.

mooray said:

What do you mean? If you disagree with the foundation of the country and what's written in the constitution, you're free to leave it as you would a job. Please explain how you're forced to stay and participate.

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If I am free, then I think I'll stay.

No social construct exists in its purest form, never has. Your best bet would be to move out into the sticks in Alaska. I think there are still regions with no property tax, thus no gov't with a pinky still in your butt controlling you. You could hunt/fish/farm/barter like the old days and exist on your own terms.

mooray said:

No social construct exists in its purest form, never has. Your best bet would be to move out into the sticks in Alaska. I think there are still regions with no property tax, thus no gov't with a pinky still in your butt controlling you. You could hunt/fish/farm/barter like the old days and exist on your own terms.

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As long as any person is not harming other people or their justly acquired property, they must exist on their own terms or they are not free.

Thanks for bringing up fishing I plan to a bit more this year, like the old days. Chickens will like the scraps and what they don't get is composted.

Like I mentioned, no social construct exists in its purest form. Odds are there is no place on earth to truly be free for an entire lifetime.

Do you have any advice for the fish on how they can also exist without a powerful entity taking their freedom and bringing them harm?

mooray said:

Like I mentioned, no social construct exists in its purest form. Odds are there is no place on earth to truly be free for an entire lifetime.

Do you have any advice for the fish on how they can also exist without a powerful entity taking their freedom and bringing them harm?

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That's an interesting point, I do have some advice for the fish.

However being a specist and not being fluent in "pickeral" I've yet to get across to them. It's like they're tuna-ing me out maaaaan.

Rob Roy said:

That's an interesting point, I do have some advice for the fish.

However being a specist and not being fluent in "pickeral" I've yet to get across to them. It's like they're tuna-ing me out maaaaan.

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I’m herring every bit of your nonsense and only replying to this post for the halibut.

mooray said:

Well for starters, try quitting your job.

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Rob Boy? A job?

Hahahahahahshahahahahaha!

Ohhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyy.

Phew! That was funny.

Just remember ... HK protests... trade war with china .. then Cov19 (from china).. the bat virus with the aids spike protein (totally from nature) John Roberts caught on hot mic saying masks not needed due to UCLA tests showing cov19 not that deadly (unless your a fatty or have some underlying issue). Now... Trump issues operation warp speed and does the what cannot be done.. gets a vaccine that should have taken 10 years to create.. in 6 mos.
The politicians are not the issue. Look into your mirror and you will find the issue.. its everyone who actually believed the media. You are addicted to CNN and misery. .

Ill end with this.. all you had to do was turn off the TV, vote for Trump and had 4 more years of low taxes, a president who was anti lockdown, anti war and pro US. Now you have pres Alzheimer's ready to force you to take the cure for a non deadly disease or you wont be able to travel , work ect.. its coming.. and higher taxes coming too.. so with long bond crashing pushing up interest rates, biden raising taxes to pay for the 2.9 trillion to bail out the left states liabilities.. well.. goodbye US economy and hello socialism. HF with the next 4 years.

Anon618 said:

Trump issues operation warp speed and does the what cannot be done

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pfizer had the 1st vaccine and they weren't part of trump's fantasy warp speed bullshit.

swing and a miss.