Humane Execution
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Dr Kynes
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find one case of an "innocent man" executed in america since the death penalty was re-established.
no, you want to prepare your reductio ad retardum response.
find me an "Innocent Execution".
murdering innocent people is how you GET the death penalty, it is not the process of execution.
when did i even imply "revenge"?
once executed, that criminal will not be raping murdering or robbing anyone else ever again.
unless you believe in reincarnation, in which case, what are you complaining about?
executions are NOT murder, by any definition
yep, murder is wrong.
executions are, like self defense, justice
darrellduaner
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i dont care how you wack them, just do it in a few days after a solid conviction. no sense in letting them rot or evolve (or at least pretend to) in a prison cell for a decade or two, living off of money that is stolen from productive members of society before killing them. or they could take the socrates approach and just off themselves
londonfog
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Jesse Tafero was innocent of the murders he was accused of...you did say one case.
Canna Sylvan
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I'm 100% pro-life in everything. Hence why I'm also a vegan and against capital punishment. Abortion is death for convenience, meat is death for pleasure, and capital punishment is death for vengeance. None of those respect life. I'm also an environmentalist because of my pro-life. But sometimes it's not possible to save a life, and that's where tough choices come.
londonfog
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what about fish
darrellduaner
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what about the plants that you eat? if you are pro-life on everything, then even though those plants dont have a nervous system, you are still killing and eating them. i am a vegan most of the time ( i want to be buff now though, and id rather ingest some whey protien bars than eat 20 bananas a day) also btw but i know that plants are dying because of me.
also, abortion may be the better choice for parents who cant raise a child (yes, they shouldnt have screwed but we all make mistakes, and it feels AWESOME to screw) My woman had to have one. it wasnt worth struggling through life and letting the television and the state raise my child so we decided that abortion was best. capital punishment makes the community safer and people eat meat because they are omnivores. we can digest a little bit of meat, even though our diets should be plant based. bottom line: things are dying so that you may live. thats life. i just killed some cucumbers, but i like them in fattoush so oh well
Canna Sylvan
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I don't go fishing, nor do I eat it. I'm about 80% raw vegan. The only "non-vegan" items I eat are raw honey about once a week or so. The only non-raw foods I eat are once in a while some beans, tofu or Ezekial sprouted grain bread. All life is connected, and those in the same kingdom are more karmically connected. Plants developed to be eaten by animals to spread their life. Whereas animals have predator and prey relationships. Unlike plants, animals feel suffering towards getting hunted, which is why they run and hide.
You have a real bug up your ass about racism. How I view it is racism is causing you to become a predator. By doing racist actions you're therefore causing the suffering no different than any other animal who hunts.
Canna Sylvan
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Tell me how to live without killing at least a plant, otherwise you're just being a troll and bugger off.
darrellduaner
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im not saying that its possible, im saying murder is inevitable as long as you are living, so dont cherry pick which murder is 'better' because they all serve a purpose. you are taking a position that seems to be very absolute and im just wondering how you justify it. hey i dont mean to troll, especially against a fellow vegan/pot smoker/RUI member
Canna Sylvan
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Because life is intertwined. You do what's necessary. Anything else is selfish and not attaining the best you that you can be. Life is precious and, yes does indeed require taking from other lives. The more unneeded lives taken, takes you further away from being in tune with all life you come in contact with. Necessary to survive isn't murder, when you kill for the sake you like killing, that's what makes you a murder. I don't wear animal products like leather. Eat them. Buy things which there are alternatives to those which exploit animals.
How is it any different than if you had the money and you decide to spend it on hookers and drugs, rather than buy products which don't harm your fellow man? Like buying clothes from you know very well were sewn from slave labor. It's another thing all together if you need those clothes to do your job, or stay warm or are too poor to get an alternative.
I applaud your veganism and pot smoking. Just make sure you think hard about what you do. Because your choices will live on way past when you're nothing but worm food.
Rob Roy
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Dr Kynes
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he was not the Button man, but he was hardly innocent.
it was HIS gun, he and his old lady were accomplices with the actual shooter, they fled together, kidnapped and carjacked a dude to facilitate their flight. dingus even held the gun for the shooter so he could drive the getaway car.
not "innocent" by any stretch.
Dr Kynes
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if you believe carlos deluna's "Evil Twin" defense you are as thick as pig shit.
Dr Kynes
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tightpockt
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Wow, your reading speed and comprehension are amazing!
The fact that you could read, retain and then dismiss this long ass article in its entirety in lliterally under a minute is impressive. Lol.
you've been a practicing denier for so long that it just comes natural I suppose....it barely takes any effort anymore.
Dr Kynes
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carlos and his Doppleganger Defense were trotted out in the last whiney anti-death penalty thread.
you didnt think you were the only dolt to read that silly credulous dreamy-eyed article in the electronic fish wrapper "The Attlantic" did you?
thats in the top 10 results if you google "Innocent Execution"
