Who do you think will win?

  • HLG

    Votes: 68 90.7%
  • HydroGrow

    Votes: 7 9.3%

  • Total voters
    75
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kotobide

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I ship low-volume orders from China. This is not drop shipping, it's just shipping. I don't buy someone else's product to re-sell, I manufacture my own products. My assembly is in China to make it cost-effective to ship internationally. And despite all this I deliver much faster than HLG... Only 4-6 days to the US while the same customer waited over a month to get a tracking number from Stephen on a light he said was shipped a month prior. So umm, does that mean the iPhone is crap because it's made in China? You guys are ridiculous.

Drop-shipping is when you buy a product from someone else and then re-sell it. Shipping is when you manufacture your own products and send them to customers. Perhaps you trolls need to learn better word definitions.

And what makes me pathetic? The fact that I post here like anyone else? What I'm not allowed the same privileges you are King Troll? Only your opinion is worthy of being shared here? The pathetic thing is continuing to attack and act as though somehow your words make the results of my lights invalid. Yet anyone growing with them is more than satisfied at this point. Wonder why that is....?
The pathetic part is your giveaway rules where you know people are required to spam other forums showing the lights you are now trying to copycat that you called cheap white light garbage.Untitled.jpg here comes the spam.jpg
 

OneHitDone

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More "proof" led deficiency is real.
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Feeding or watering 1 or 2 times a week, down from every other day vs indoor.

What made the purple go away? IMO UV and IR, in other words, sunlight.
So what are you suggesting?

I definitely don't buy the concept of it just being a response to intense light.
Plant health and spectrum to seem to be part of the equation.

I notice that plant was also "3 leafing". That is something I have notices a few of my clone only strains will do when freshly transplanted and pissed off. Can take weeks or even months to grow them out of that.
 

SSGrower

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So what are you suggesting?

I definitely don't buy the concept of it just being a response to intense light.
Plant health and spectrum to seem to be part of the equation.

I notice that plant was also "3 leafing". That is something I have notices a few of my clone only strains will do when freshly transplanted and pissed off. Can take weeks or even months to grow them out of that.
That plant when placed outside mid april was I believe in the beginning stages of what @hybridway2 has coined led deficiency. The question remains to was I treating it appropriately? I suggust not as I was feeding more,adding this, trying that....to no avail. The plant was living but not healthfully. I was going to keep it as a mom, not sure the exact age. What the plant was telling me is I got all that, I need something else. LED spectrum will continue to be deficient until IR and UV are tuned in.
 

OneHitDone

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There is no LED deficiency
just growers using LED's that aren't paying attention to their plants.
Please lay it out in very detailed format what changes a grower needs to be paying attention to when switching to led if there is no such thing as led deficiency.
Your suggesting that someone can keep all parameters the same and just swap an led in place of an hps and notice no ill effects?
 

rkymtnman

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Please lay it out in very detailed format what changes a grower needs to be paying attention to when switching to led if there is no such thing as led deficiency.
Your suggesting that someone can keep all parameters the same and just swap an led in place of an hps and notice no ill effects?
i can't speak for the others but i had probably my first Ca deficiency in years when i went to QB's on my first grow with them. changed up my nute recipe a bit. instead of maxibloom start to finish, i'm doing maxibloom and maxigro in different ratios. i'm 2 weeks into 12/12 and dont see anything yet.

as a side note, i was gone for 3 days and came back to the Ca defic. it was bad but i caught it in time. had i been home, i would have noticed it quicker.
 
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