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anherbman

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anherbman

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Aloha Oahu ASA ...

From Pam Lichty of Drug Policy Forum.

Aloha Folks -

Sorry for the delay in getting this report out to you. I was waiting for some legal input on the Senate draft, and I never got it. So this is my report from the front lines. As far as action goes: there is no testimony taken for Conference Committees, but you can send emails, faxes or make phone calls about what you'd like to see in the final version (or of course that could be "none of the above.") I'll put the list of the Senate & House conferees at the end of this post.

As some of you know, the Senate and House conferees met Tues to discuss SB 1458, SD2, HD 3. I was there. It was about a 10 min. discussion where the spokespeople for each chamber summarized their position. They have scheduled a reconvening for Tues. the 26th at 1:30 to discuss further (they have to decide what to do by midnite on the 28th so I'm assuming they will have already figured out what they're going to do before then behind closed doors.)

Here's what they said.
Sen Green said: This is the furthest any bill on this topic has gone. He said there have been 3 drafts so far on the Sen. side and thinks there will be many more. . Because this bill originated in the Senate, they do the conference draft (s) which the House then responds to. (The CD 1 is NOT available on line; I have a copy or you can pick one up at the capitol from any of the conferees, but it will be old news soon.) The Senate CD 1 , Green said, does the following (compared to the last House version):

Senate position:
- Removes "pilot" designation for single dispensary site; instead sets up one on Maui then it is "implemented in all counties within two years thereafter."
- Sets $20,000 licensing fee (renewable yearly at $20K)
- Sets $100 "administrative fee" for visiting out-of-state patients
- Prohibits "intrastate (within the state) transportation of mmj once all centers are established in the counties" [we are researching exactly what this means]
- changes am't of permissible mmj
- deletes language which wouldn't permit smoking of mmj (only edibles, ointments, etc.)
- deletes language about FDA approval
- deletes task force to help department w/ rulemaking
- deletes 5 year pilot program requirement
- sets effective date of Aug. 7, 2011 with program to be in place 1 year later
- Interestingly, Green did not say, but the CD1 says, the program will be in the Dept. of Health

Rep. Yamane said the House position is:
- they want a true pilot program
- want 1 location only
- don't want it to be automatically expanded to other counties after initial 2 years (or whatever time frame they put in for initial site.)
- want it to stay in Public Safety

At the end, Sen. Green said they are open to the Big Island being the initial site.

specific areas of concern:
- can pts/caregivers still grow their own?
- what does "intrastate" transportation language mean ? Can a pt. bring it from Waimanalo to HNL for instance?
- Why do we need a pilot project when NO other states have done a pilot program and they all have done multiple sites from the get go?
- What about equal access to a safe & legal supply from patients on a different island than where the first site is?
- Can language be added to address other issues e.g. clarifying the rules around transporting medicine or giving seeds or clones to a patient or is this not in line w/ senate or house rules on conferences?
- And the big question: is this bill going to help at all or is it just a way of delaying real solutions? (Bear in mind that bills from this session remain alive for next year and can be acted on from whatever committee they ended up in.)

Some very recent updates from elsewhere.:
DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA — Mayor Vincent Gray announced that he will issue final regulations to implement the local D.C. medical marijuana law. As a result, five establishments will soon start selling marijuana to patients within a couple miles of Capitol Hill.





NEW JERSEY — The state health department announced the six organizations that will be growing and selling medical marijuana to patients in New Jersey.

MAINE — Eight dispensaries have received permits to sell marijuana to patients in Maine.

Here are the people to contact if you wish to (esp. Yamane and Green):

House conferees appointed: Yamane, Aquino, Keith-Agaran, M. Oshiro Co-Chairs; Ito, Riviere.

S Senate Conferees appointed: Green, Chair; Chun Oakland, Espero, Co-Chair(s); English, Shimabukuro.

Let them know what you think - esp. if you are their constituent.
aloha-pam

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Pamela G. Lichty, MPH
President
Drug Policy Forum of Hawai'i
P.O. Box 241042
Honolulu, HI 96824
Phone: 808 735-8001
Fax: 808 735-2971
Cell: 808 224-3056
[email protected]
www.dpfhi.org
 

anherbman

Active Member
Passing this along from Andrea. I am sorry for the delay in getting it to you all.

There is still time to call the Representatives on Tuesday morning. Please call if you have time. The Senate version is better, so calling the House is important.

Aloha Big Island ASA members,

Tuesday, April 26, 1:30 pm is the conference committee between the House and Senate to discuss SB 1458, SD2, HD3.
This is where the two committees come together and possibly come up with a bill that they can agree on.
The major problem is in the House with members advancing a far more restrictive and conservative version of the original bill SB 1458 such as a single dispensary site on Maui for 2 years leaving the Big Island and other islands in the cold for at least another two years.

This morning I phoned all the House Conference Committee members and ask you to phone them, too. I asked each of the reps secretaries if anyone had phoned them to date and all of them said I was the first one they spoke to in regard to SB1458, SD2, HD3, so this is very very bad.

Please phone the House committee members that will frame this bill tomorrow and tell them:
1. We do not support the single dispensary site on Maui because it is unfair to the patients on the other islands.
2. We do not support the $20,000 licensing fee for dispensaries which will bore on the backs of the patients.
3. We do not support the $100 administrative fee for visiting out of state patients as this is an unusually high amount for patients who are only going to be here for a short time and still need to take their medicine.
4. Allow in this bill for patients to be able to transport their medicine from between the islands as many patients travel to Oahu for medical treatment.
5. Tell them that you support the bill passed in the Senate SB 1458 SD 2, or something broader than the House version .
6. Any other thing you think will benefit the patients.

Also, tell them to read the testimony submitted from previous committee meetings. We, the patients, know what will serve our needs and we need our elected officials to represents our best interests.

Here are the phone numbers of the representatives that will be in the conference committee meeting:

Of course (808) Area Code

Yamane 586-6150
Aquino 586-6520
Keith-Agaran 586-6210
Oshiro, M. 586-6200
Ito 586-8470
Riviere 586-6380

Good luck,

Andrea, Co - Chair
 

Trichy Bastard

Well-Known Member
Hey fellow islanders- Gonna try my hand at some outdoor soil and play with an outdoor fogponic setup. Just wanted to introduce myself and hope to contribute to the site soon-especially in the expirimentation with fog. I figure this is about the right time of year for hawaii... Aloha
 

DelSlow

Well-Known Member
Hey fellow islanders- Gonna try my hand at some outdoor soil and play with an outdoor fogponic setup. Just wanted to introduce myself and hope to contribute to the site soon-especially in the expirimentation with fog. I figure this is about the right time of year for hawaii... Aloha
Aloha! You've come to the right thread. Lots of akamai growers here :leaf:
 

Cru3l

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Here's an update to my girls, and me.

I have 2 AK-47's that I popped from seeds, and a Super Lemon Haze clone that ironically was clonned off my SLH 2 grows ago. :lol::lol:. To top this all off, I placed a LA Confidential clone outdoors in my backyard.

Outdoor growing is still foreign to me since all my grows have been a tiny closet operation. In an effort for experimentation, I decided to dedicate the least amount of time to my outdoor plant. I feed it about 3 times a week via 6.0 ph tap water w/ the Botanicare Line. Besides that, I'm not going to dedicate much time to her. Nature will take its course, (bugs wind, rain, ect, ect) :)

Needless to say, i love the ability to harness that massive nuclear explosion happening trillions and trillions of miles away. Hawaii is so perfectly positioned in correlation to the sun/equator, that the consistent great weather is amazing.

All that being said, my main goal this grow is to further develop my canopy control skills. This is the first grow that I will be implementing CO2, so that will also be a small learning curve.

Picks below. If your wondering, I was high as fuck when I took the time to write this long ass post.

Grow Information -- Expected to begin Flowering 5May

  • Medium:
Soil - Roots Organic "Greenfield's"
  • Medium Size:
5 Gallon plastic pots purchased @ LOWES.
  • Veg Nutes:
Botanicare Power Grow, Silica Blast, Blast Off, Liquid Karma, Cal-Mag
  • Flower Nutes:
Botanicare Power Flower, Sweet, Silica Blast, Blast Off, Liquid Karma, Cal-Mag. Clearex flushes every 3-4 weeks.
  • Veg Lighting:
Currently running 270W of LEDs. Pics below
  • Veg Environmental:
Closet grow with no dedicated ventilation. A small fan is in the closet to provide some air circulation. No auxiliary C02
  • Flower Environmental:
DR120 Grow Tent (4.5x4.5x7ft), 3 Lasko Benchfans, 12K BTU AC Unit, Sentinel CPPM4 Co2 Controller, CO2 Tank w/ Regulator (Planning on sustained 1200 PPM with temps in lower 80's.
  • Flower Lighting:
600W HPS via a Nexgen Digital Ballast and a Digilux Bulb
 

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grassified

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well folks just ahrvested a few grams off what I believe to be a sannies seeds killing fields (purple pheno). This strain has root cloning properties as new sprouts came up from the roots of the ripped plant, I harvested the two tiny plants. They were ridden with insects, aphids, whiteflies, only about a quarter of the whole plant was smokeable.

I just dried em out and vaped em, killer high tho, even w/o curing. I can tell if this strain wasn't infested with bugs and properly cured it would have killer taste, i got a hint of it as I vaped it, reminded me of candy berries or something along those lines.

got some seeds off of it too (hermie seeds lol) so ill go ahead and throw some in the dirt and see what I get. Still looking for that potent guerrilla strain that yields decently and gives an awesome high, im thinking about starting with the basics again, skunk#1 anybody?
 

anherbman

Active Member
Hi Folks -
Well I went to the latest conference cmtee mtg today on SB 1458, looked over the proposed bill, and IMHO it's getting worse and worse. As at the mtg. last week, Senator Green presented the Senate draft. He did not have copies for the other conferees so they didn't have much info to go on.

Here's what he said:
He is concerned about abuse of the program as demonstrated by all the young people who have registered, He said that 50% of those on the Big Island are under age 30 and 500 people on the Big Island are under 21. Said he intends to "clean up the law."

He wants DOH to create a single dispensary based on where their analysis shows the medical need is highest. He says it should focus on those with cancer, m.s., neuromuscular disorders. The bill would therefore amend the list of qualifying conditions by deleting severe pain, severe nausea. and Crohn's disease. There's a a 60 day grace period so that those w/ a current card whose condition is no longer eligible have 2 months before they have to turn in their card since they no longer qualify.[!!!]

He said there will be a significant licensing fee of about $30K, an out of state rate of $100, and it will not address the transportation issue which he feels is not a core issue. He said Public Safety & DOH would have to "collaborate". Under his bill, DOH licenses the single pilot program dispensary and PSD retains the patient registry.

Rep. Yamane, speaking for the House, said he wants to "continue the discussion" since it's gotten this far. Wants to discuss some more about PSD vs. DOH. If 2 year pilot goes well, we would look at data and then proceed from there. Said some areas would be problematic for a dispensary site like Weed and Seed zones.

The draft bill itself shows: the pilot program shall be established "no later than Aug. 7, 2012." The specific site for the pilot will be "designated by the Governor."

It still prohibits mmj from being transported out of the island where the "compassion center" is located. In addition to the initial licensing fee of $30K, there shall be an annual fee of $25 K and an annual renewal fee in the same amount.

- licensee must be a non-profit entity
- edibles etc shall be regulated by DOH & the federal Food and Drug Administration. Sen. Green said last week that the FDA reference is coming out. [They would be unable to take part due to the federal scheduling of cannabis.]
- in addition to regular sales tax, an additional 15%. tax shall be assessed on "gross proceeds of sales."
- facility no closer than 600 yards from schools.
- a task force to advise the dept. on drafting rules is still included [altho last week, the Senate said they were removing it.]
- "The pilot project shall cease to exist no later than 2 years after date of implementation, unless the legislature authorizes its continuation or expansion prior to the expiration of the pilot program."

So there, you have it folks. Is this better than nothing? Not in my opinion. I think the Senate has bend over backwards to appease the voiced concerns of law enforcement and the House.

The next meeting of the conference cmtee is Thursday at 1:30. I suggest that you contact Senator Green's office and let him know your thoughts.

There are ways in which this bill would be worse than the current situation since only patients on one island would have access AND the types of eligible conditions would be severely curtailed.
See: http://www.kitv.com/news/27682393/detail.html

[email protected]
ph; 586-9385
fax 586-9391.

Thanks for hanging in there.....
aloha-
pam

--
Pamela G. Lichty, MPH
President
Drug Policy Forum of Hawai'i
P.O. Box 241042
Honolulu, HI 96824
Phone: 808 735-8001
Fax: 808 735-2971
Cell: 808 224-3056
[email protected]
www.dpfhi.org



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stoneyburd

Active Member
well folks just ahrvested a few grams off what I believe to be a sannies seeds killing fields (purple pheno). This strain has root cloning properties as new sprouts came up from the roots of the ripped plant, I harvested the two tiny plants. They were ridden with insects, aphids, whiteflies, only about a quarter of the whole plant was smokeable.

I just dried em out and vaped em, killer high tho, even w/o curing. I can tell if this strain wasn't infested with bugs and properly cured it would have killer taste, i got a hint of it as I vaped it, reminded me of candy berries or something along those lines.

got some seeds off of it too (hermie seeds lol) so ill go ahead and throw some in the dirt and see what I get. Still looking for that potent guerrilla strain that yields decently and gives an awesome high, im thinking about starting with the basics again, skunk#1 anybody?
So disease and pest resistance, not so good on the killing fields? Hey man thats cool you grew that plant, I just ordered some seeds KF too. About how long flowering for the purple pheno?

I've heard good things about KF, but I think its been mostly indoor grows. the lineage of the KF seems amazing. I plan on running mine outside, maybe they take a few seasons to acclimate?? any pics btw?
 

DelSlow

Well-Known Member
@ anherbman thanks for keeping us updated. WTF is wrong with these politicians?! 30k and 25k every year after??

And who gives a shit if people under 30 are smoking medically? Even if it's for getting high (which is their argument) I don't see them going after liquor stores. I can name numerous liquor stores across the street from schools. I'd like to know how much it costs to open a liquor store, and how much to renew a liquor license? For fuck's sake, 7/11 sells alcohol!

Better yet, how much do they tax the tylonel or advil at longs drugs?

I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. If I do call this senator (green) I don't think I'll be able to get my thoughts across without losing it. Maybe an email would be a better option? Lmao im going ape-shit. Time to smoke :leaf:
 

Trichy Bastard

Well-Known Member
@ anherbman thanks for keeping us updated. WTF is wrong with these politicians?! 30k and 25k every year after??

And who gives a shit if people under 30 are smoking medically? Even if it's for getting high (which is their argument) I don't see them going after liquor stores. I can name numerous liquor stores across the street from schools. I'd like to know how much it costs to open a liquor store, and how much to renew a liquor license? For fuck's sake, 7/11 sells alcohol!

Better yet, how much do they tax the tylonel or advil at longs drugs?

I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. If I do call this senator (green) I don't think I'll be able to get my thoughts across without losing it. Maybe an email would be a better option? Lmao im going ape-shit. Time to smoke :leaf:
I've owned 2 bars here, and the liquor license is cheap- perhaps $600 a year, also pay an average of 1% liquor sales annually... The money goes to the unholy liquor commission that rules us- its's a bass-ackwards system filled with corruption- trust me...
 

stoneyburd

Active Member
@ anherbman thanks for keeping us updated. WTF is wrong with these politicians?! 30k and 25k every year after??

And who gives a shit if people under 30 are smoking medically? Even if it's for getting high (which is their argument) I don't see them going after liquor stores. I can name numerous liquor stores across the street from schools. I'd like to know how much it costs to open a liquor store, and how much to renew a liquor license? For fuck's sake, 7/11 sells alcohol!

Better yet, how much do they tax the tylonel or advil at longs drugs?

I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. If I do call this senator (green) I don't think I'll be able to get my thoughts across without losing it. Maybe an email would be a better option? Lmao im going ape-shit. Time to smoke :leaf:
I agree with you DelSlow, especially about the alcohol. and These politicians are interpreting the data about age all wrong!! Of course the majority of people signed up for MMJ are under 30, I feel that the younger generations are probably more open to natural medicine than the older generations brought up with big pharma and their "medicine."

Man this sucks. Not only are they butchering sd 1458, but they are taking away qualifying conditions for MMJ? WTF!! No more MMJ for pain or nausea?? I currently have my MMJ card for severe back pain caused by spondylolysis and other back injuries. I know my condition is not like MS, cancer or neuromuscular diseases, but medicinal cannabis has improved my life for the better.

I just called Senator Green, line was busy so left a message, gonna try again to reach him. We all need to bother this Senator "Green" and voice our opinions. Don't be apathetic!! Let the rage out! yell at this guy! lol


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