Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

Hey stink i thought i would post some pics flowering room 2 weeks and 3 days and they are looking good. As soon as they are done it will give me room for your aero setup. Never did aero just drip and ebb and flo. I also posted pics of my veg room look at the leaves this just started to happen 3 days ago what do you think it is? I got 3 400watt lights i got them off ebay it includes new bat wing refletor it is not air colled also rebilt ballast which has 3 year warrenty and one new 400hps bulb and 1 mh conversin 400The metal halide is 36,000 lumens and the hps is 50,000 lumens. bulb. It is 110 bucks for each not bad. Anyway the other pics are clone chmber doing good 5 days and alrady poped roots. Please look at pics of leaves in veg room what is it. temp is 75F humidity 50 got oscilating fan. also 180 cfm squirl cage blower. I got three strains in flowering blur mystic, chcolope and northern lights. One of the nothern lights is over 5 foot tall. i figure ind 3 to 4 weeks i will flush that meand they would have been trheir 6 weeks before flush. I got everthing to build your setup except 4x4x4 fence postes timer and net pots and neoprene inserts will be ordering soon. I have plenty of seeds but i wanted some ak ands bluberry i want xact setup like yours or close. i will use 3 400 watt hps lamps for your flowering it should work. For veg and clone i got some 48" T12 shop lights. 40watt bulbs. What do you think they should work in veg and clone. I usually use HID lights in veg system but electricity is getting crazt so i will use floresents in veg and clone. What do you use in veg and clone? I know you said DJ shorts for good ak and bluberry www.DJCronics has dj shorts seeds i guess i will try them for ak and blueberry.

DIRTHAWKER said:

I finally learned how everybody takes pictures so that the buds stand out!!! you wait till the light goes out then you use the flash...duh...LOL

Well these babies on the far right are gonna be chopped in a day or two.....

STINK you da man.....if i can do this in my first try then anyone can.

Things are gonna start to get really interesting for me and my club.

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The first harvest is the hardest one because of the wait. After a while it will seem like you never get a break.

I'm interested to find out the final weight. My best without CO2 was 12 oz.

You're going to trip when you add CO2 and heat up your room to 85.

Don't be afraid to experiment with your PPM. Some strains can easily handle 2900 PPM. AK47 being one of them. My Snowbud can handle over 3000 PPM without burning!

When you dial in your strains you are looking for a couple of things. One is the color and the other is the tips of the leaves.

If you start to see tip burn that means you just crossed the edge of max nutes. The color will also be very dark green, almost black in some species. You want a nice deep green but not too dark.

To dial in your strains take your nutes up 200 PPM a week. Watch the tips. As soon as you see a little tip burn take it back down 200 PPM from there. Now you have your strain dialed in.

You might find that 2400 PPM is perfect your plants.

DIRTHAWKER said:

dude andy your gonna be stoked believe me..just follow stink and you will be in ganja heaven in no time...
Im running ak47, cheese, tangerine kush and red grape.. i have 4 more runs and then im gonna get me some blueberry and some og kush,,maybe some super silve haze.

The ganja factory is more then just a hobby,,its a lifestyle.

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I cant belive how fast they grow. I put some seeds into my sprouter (its for making sprouts you put on you salad, works great for anyseeds) once they sprouted (1-2days) I put them straight into neopre with the netpots. Over night the roots doubled. Now the sprout at 3 days old is only about 1/2" tall but the roots have went from being one tap root to being 3-4" long spider web looking roots. This is in just being from seed to 3 days old. My veg and cloner are allmost full now. Just ordered my veg botanical nutes. I wonder how fast they will grow once I add them since Im just running strait well water and they allready look like there on steroids. Its so awsome Im thinking of making an outdoor greenhouse just to grow organic vegatables in to sell in front of my house.

Ps stinkbud do you think I clould make your flower setup to work outside. Do you see any problems that could cause?
thanks so much for all your help

I'm going to try and get the Botanicare nutes that you recommend Stinkbud. I'll just do a run with the General Hydroponics flora nutes first and then use the proceeds to buy the more expensive stuff you recommend. I will then be able to see what the difference is between the two types of nutrients, both taste, growth rate, and maintenance. I do appreciate all the help, and my clones are kicking ass.

andyman said:

Ps stinkbud do you think I clould make your flower setup to work outside. Do you see any problems that could cause?
thanks so much for all your help

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I'm going to be doing that this summer Andy! I'll probably dig a hole for the rez and have everything level with the ground. Paint the rez black and the fence posts with camo paint, maybe even shore up the dirt with something so it's easy to remove. I want it looking like it's a dirt grow, totally inconspicuous.

potpimp said:

I'm going to be doing that this summer Andy! I'll probably dig a hole for the rez and have everything level with the ground. Paint the rez black and the fence posts with camo paint, maybe even shore up the dirt with something so it's easy to remove. I want it looking like it's a dirt grow, totally inconspicuous.

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I figured it would work, but was worried about the heat from the sun making stuff grow in the res. black res might get to hot.

andyman said:

I cant belive how fast they grow. I put some seeds into my sprouter (its for making sprouts you put on you salad, works great for anyseeds) once they sprouted (1-2days) I put them straight into neopre with the netpots. Over night the roots doubled. Now the sprout at 3 days old is only about 1/2" tall but the roots have went from being one tap root to being 3-4" long spider web looking roots. This is in just being from seed to 3 days old. My veg and cloner are allmost full now. Just ordered my veg botanical nutes. I wonder how fast they will grow once I add them since Im just running strait well water and they allready look like there on steroids. Its so awsome Im thinking of making an outdoor greenhouse just to grow organic vegatables in to sell in front of my house.

Ps stinkbud do you think I clould make your flower setup to work outside. Do you see any problems that could cause?
thanks so much for all your help

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I think it would work great. Only thing you need to deal with is water temps in your reservoir. You also need to cover it so stuff dosen't get inside. A greenhouse and water chiller is all you would need.

I'm thinking tomatoes the size of grapefruits are possible.

StinkBud said:

I think it would work great. Only thing you need to deal with is water temps in your reservoir. You also need to cover it so stuff dosen't get inside. A greenhouse and water chiller is all you would need.

I'm thinking tomatoes the size of grapefruits are possible.

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def going to try it. if it doesnt work ohh well I can just use the stuff indoors if the heat is an issue. I plan on takin pics of the sprouts tonight.
Any one else ever put sprouts in the cloner or veg unit? or does everyone just put into dirt and take clones. Just putting them into the cloner worked great for me.

also I found a new way to get the neoprene inserts way cheaper.
about $2 per 24/2"
will post later with picx

tanks a million andyman

holy shit dirthawker, nice job! i guess flash truly IS king.

thanks so much stink, you mega-inspirer.....

got my new cloner fired up with a couple kids rooting, but after seeing dirt's, phoenix's and a couple other of your protege's latest project's, it is a kick in my ass to get the rest of yours/now mine/whomever else i show to do it next system up and running.

thank you so much stink, pics to follow!

+ imaginary reps to you! (wtf is a rep, anyway? lol)

andyman said:

def going to try it. if it doesnt work ohh well I can just use the stuff indoors if the heat is an issue. I plan on takin pics of the sprouts tonight.
Any one else ever put sprouts in the cloner or veg unit? or does everyone just put into dirt and take clones. Just putting them into the cloner worked great for me.

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I just did it a few hours ago. I had a few seeds I wanted to try out.

I started the seed in a paper towel. Once they popped I put them inside a Rapid Rooter plug and put that inside a net pot. The net pots went into the cloner for a couple of days until the seedling popped out.

I have these little white lids that have a hole in them. They allow the seedling to poke it's head through but keep the water from spraying out.

Within a few days I had a 3" tap roots and the plants were about 1" high. I very carefully removed the seedling from the plugs and put them into collars and net pots.

I put the seedlings in the VEG system. They need the nutrients to grow. Too long in the cloner will stunt their growth.

They came from my Blueberry, Purple Silver and Goo plants. I had a Skunk plant produce a couple of tiny little male flowers.

Some species of plants will produce male flowers right before death. It's kind of like a last ditch effort for the plant to get fertilized. Usually your buds are too far along to produce any seeds though.

With a perpetual harvest you will have some buds that are young enough to accept pollen.

What you look for is a little tiny yellow banana shaped flower. It is just a single flower blade not the whole flower.

If you take these little male flowers and put them on your new buds you will end up with female seeds (hopefully).

Don't confuse these little flowers with a true hermi. This is good trait to have and very rare.

Anyone want some Sour Blueberry seeds? Maybe you would prefer some Sour Purple or Sour Goo? Psych! I'm just fucking with you...

Hey Stinkbud-

So I've been really, really intrigued with this whole thread. Read it cover to cover. I'm very interested in making one. However, with the amount I smoke, I'd be left with so much extra bud that I literally couldn't safely give away enough of it before I was sitting on another pound. Because of this, I've been thinking about tinkering with either a two- or three-plant flowering unit. I've got a few questions though.


1- If I were to have a two-plant setup, I'd probably have four sprayers in there. Three plants, six sprayers. Is that enough?

2- I've seen 3-gallon roughneck tubs at Lowe's. Would this as a reservoir be enough for such a small flowering unit? The outer dimensions of these totes are 15.8" x 10.3" x 7" high.

3- What size EcoPlus pump would you go with? I've seen as small as 66gph, but I'm leaning towards a 132gph being enough. What would be optimal for the EZ-Clone spray heads? I can't find where I read it, but I seem to remember ~20psi each, right?

4- I've yet to give it any thought, but what would you suggest for cloning and vegetative units to match my flowering needs? I'm especially stumped on the flowering unit... I don't really need the LxW dimensions of stacking two 18-gallon tubs, but I know I'll still need the height. Maybe stack a bunch of 3-galloners? Shrug.


I made a post probably a dozen pages back or so now, about lessening the waterfall noise from the flowering units... I'll get back to yall about it once I've got the time and cash to build one of my own, get a tad stony, and really do some serious cranial engineering. It certainly CAN be done, the question is how to do it best and easiest

On the subject of noise, what parts of this setup are the loudest to run? I'm trying to soundproof it as much as possible and need to know what to spend some good old re-engineering time on

Thanks again, still an A+ thread!

what do you think stink i put questions and pica onpage 248

andyman said:

def going to try it. if it doesnt work ohh well I can just use the stuff indoors if the heat is an issue. I plan on takin pics of the sprouts tonight.
Any one else ever put sprouts in the cloner or veg unit? or does everyone just put into dirt and take clones. Just putting them into the cloner worked great for me.

also I found a new way to get the neoprene inserts way cheaper.
about $2 per 24/2"
will post later with picx

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All of my plants have been started from seed. I germinated in wet paper towel, then into rockwool or dirt. once they sprouted I gently removed and moved to the cloner. I have some BC Bud Depot The Black and The Purps along with some Barney's Farm Red Diesel, Greenhouse Seeds Trainwreck, and Big Budda Cheese all from seed in the cloner now. I'm pretty excited about The Black because the buds get DARK purple/black. Just in veg I can see the tint of black to the leaves so I'm pretty excited to see how they are going to turn out.

DP

i gotta do this

here is root porn from 3 day old seedlings/sprouts in my temp. veg tub.
I mean 3 days ago these were just seeds.

post harvest pics dirthawker

andyman said:

here is root porn from 3 day old seedlings/sprouts in my temp. veg tub.
I mean 3 days ago these were just seeds.

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Where did you get those neoprene plastic collars?

NewGrowth said:

Where did you get those neoprene plastic collars?

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the ones I have in the cloner, in use are the 2" ones I got off fleebay.
Im cutting my own for the first harvest to save some $$. after that I will just buy more of the pre made ones.
the stuff Im making them out of is from a craft store. $1.49 per sheet the net pots I cut the bottom half out for when I clone house plants so I can transplant them into dirt.

DragonPhoenix said:

hey Dirthawker - I know your plants are doing very well however I think you may have a even BETTER harvest after you get the RO system in place.

My reasoning for saying this is that if your water is very high in ppm the chlorine content if elevated can kill alot of the beneficial bateria that we are trying to get to grow in our organic nutrients.

I know you're gonna have an awesome harvest very shortly and the one following that will be even better! I can't wait to see the pics. Be sure to let me know how you are drying as well - hanging? bud screen dryer? etc.

DP

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Ive been lugging bottled water for the last several days until my RO system gets here.. i also need a climate controller and co2, mylar on the remaining walls, and when summer comes around i will have to get some fans and ducting to cool the lights, also an AC unit...This isnt cheap.. ive spent a hell of a lot of dough on this.
Its all gonna be all dialed in soon.

This stuff is only gonna get better. As soon as i harvest this first unit it will give me some room to work on the other units. I plan on trimming a shitload of the lower branches so as too bulk up the main colas.

This ak47 i have must be a weak pheno beacuse it just isnt bulking up like normal ak does..but man this cheese and redgrape are hard and thick!!!

I have some empty boxes that i cut holes in and hung string across to hang the buds on..but where would the best place to set them? in the spare bedroom with a window open? or in a shed? or what? I am a little nervous about the drying and curing process. My last outdoor stuff got really dry (but it was a lot hotter then). I have mason jars ready for the cure.

Thanks stink for the lesson on dialing in the nutes.