amen to that shit newb and he annoyed me just reading his post, in the middle of great teaching u pop up with some dumb shit dude go kill yourself two times stink you are my number one make feel like the teachers pet lol thank you. Oh and ps u doing good stuff for people so bad shit happening to u is slim to none good karma bro good karma peace love and smoke
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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StinkBud
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Thanks bro! Don't let the trolls bother you. This is one of the longest running, most popular threads on the internet in spite of all the confused kids. I remember when I was a little hell raiser! Looking back I think the reason I didn't get into more trouble was I didn't get caught. When I did get busted I was always let off. Oh no... I feel a StinkBud story coming on...
One time I was smoking some bud in the parking lot of the ski resort. I rolled down the window, turned left and blew the smoke right into a cops face. Can you say Duh?!!! The cop asked me for my stash so I gave it to him. He gave it back to me and told me to go stomp it into the snow bank with my foot. So I went over, dropped the bud and plowed it in. The cop gave me a warning and left. After snowboarding I went over and retrieved the bud out of the snow, dried it off and smoked a bowl. haha true story...
StinkBud
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What up buddies! Things are going great! The plants are loving the bigger containers. I already pulled the Cataract Kush and the Tahoe OG. They should be dry in a few days. Right now I'm really liking the Silver LA the most. The smell is amazing. The OG #18 is also stellar. Check out the latest photos.
420circuit
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Nice pics Stink! After growing with both the rails and dirt what do you see as the big difference?
I am enjoying the rails, here is another Northern Lights crop at 9 weeks into flowering. This set of plants got Jack's nutrients so I'll be able to compare results in a few weeks with my previous crop grown with Botanicare. So far the growth seems to be very similar so I am currently looking to switch. Next test is to eliminate Sweet and Aquashield and try molasses and Pondzyme instead.
I am enjoying the rails, here is another Northern Lights crop at 9 weeks into flowering. This set of plants got Jack's nutrients so I'll be able to compare results in a few weeks with my previous crop grown with Botanicare. So far the growth seems to be very similar so I am currently looking to switch. Next test is to eliminate Sweet and Aquashield and try molasses and Pondzyme instead.
superstoner1
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I would not use molasses in hydro. It is full of potentially bad stuff.
MedScientist
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Holy Cow! Emmer Some BEAUTIFUL Budz! Dont change a thing! Just sayin....! BEAUTIFUL!
420circuit
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You have my undivided attention, I thought the sugars were what we are needing to make available in the late stages, and there are posters expressing how great molasses works for that... I admire the work you have done in evolving the rail system and respect your advice, what could go wrong with adding molasses?
superstoner1
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This is just my understanding of it. I hear it does great in soil but never in hydro.it produces mad amounts of bacteria that can ne bad in hydro. I have seen many try it but never heard of anyone trying more than once or twice.
420circuit
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OK, being born a rebel it now falls to me to test this out by adding some molasses to the next nute change in flower and then report the results back to this thread. Let's see what happens. I'll add a couple TBSPs to an 18 gallon reservoir that is running Jack's. I'll skip the Aquashield, keep the Pondzyme and add the molasses mixed with water first to the nutes. Worst case is clogged sprayers and maybe a few killed plants. Best case is stop buying the jugs of Sweet and Aquashield.
There are people adding their urine to their plants so this is pretty mild by comparison. I'll dissolve the molasses in water before adding and resist the temptation to piss in the solution.
There are people adding their urine to their plants so this is pretty mild by comparison. I'll dissolve the molasses in water before adding and resist the temptation to piss in the solution.
sky rocket
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OK, being born a rebel it now falls to me to test this out by adding some molasses to the next nute change in flower and then report the results back to this thread. Let's see what happens. I'll add a couple TBSPs to an 18 gallon reservoir that is running Jack's. I'll skip the Aquashield, keep the Pondzyme and add the molasses mixed with water first to the nutes. Worst case is clogged sprayers and maybe a few killed plants. Best case is stop buying the jugs of Sweet and Aquashield.
There are people adding their urine to their plants so this is pretty mild by comparison. I'll dissolve the molasses in water before adding and resist the temptation to piss in the solution.
Before adding molasses to your res I would google the use of it in dwc/aero. I've read more no's then do's. But keep us posted on how it goes. Too much of it can clog drip lines tubes etc.
StinkBud
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Good for you bro! You got balls. I've never tried molasses in hydro because I was always afraid of getting the funk. It would be interesting to see if it will work though. Let us know how it goes.OK, being born a rebel it now falls to me to test this out by adding some molasses to the next nute change in flower and then report the results back to this thread. Let's see what happens. I'll add a couple TBSPs to an 18 gallon reservoir that is running Jack's. I'll skip the Aquashield, keep the Pondzyme and add the molasses mixed with water first to the nutes. Worst case is clogged sprayers and maybe a few killed plants. Best case is stop buying the jugs of Sweet and Aquashield.
There are people adding their urine to their plants so this is pretty mild by comparison. I'll dissolve the molasses in water before adding and resist the temptation to piss in the solution.
Have you tried OG#18 yet. If not you really should do yourself a favor and buys some seeds. This is the closest strain I've ever tried to the famous OG Kush SFV cutting. It pretty much tastes exactly the same with a hard hitting punch. The only difference is the yield and ease of growing. The OG #18 wins hands down. it's easy to clone and it's a decent producer if trained properly.
Oh yea... the piss thing.... I heard about that years ago when I was a kid so I tried it out. Sure enough the plants loved it. They grew big and tall and really dark green. The thing is I figured if a little piss is good a lot of piss would be great! It didn't quite work out that way. The plants got a little burned and stayed dark green all the way until harvest. When we smoked the bud the first time it kind of left a bad taste in your mouth. I wanna say it tasted like piss but how the fuck would I know what piss tastes like? Instead of calling it Columbian Gold we should have called it Columbian Golden Showers.
So anyway that's when I learned that you get out what you put in. Nothing but sweet organic nutes from that day forth (compost). Oh, by the way, did you know that over 90% of world production of urea (piss) is destined for fertilizer? What do you think they do with all that fertilizer? Think about it next time you're buying fruits and vegetables at the local store.
Urea is also used as a flavor enhancer for cigarettes, skin cream, soap and tooth whitening products. Let's not forget get the medical uses! What would the world be like without good old fashioned piss!
poind3xter
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Bro you need to write a book. The info you post here, and back on the other site when it was around, is priceless.
420circuit
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Reducing the cost of nutes is a project that merits attention. Today I saw a gallon bottle of Sweet at a hydro shop with a $64 tag. It is glorified sugar water. I am going to boil some molasses and water and add it instead of Sweet at the next nute change to see what happens. I'll let it cool off first. If anyone has any idea where to look for serious data on this sort of hydro additive, please post here. There are several bloom additives that are very expensive and I believe that they could all be produced fairly easily at home if the formulae were known. There are abundant know-it-alls here on RIU, but they all seem to fade away when an real application for their "knowledge" comes up. Sorry, still pissed about a rather difficult exchange with a self-proclaimed chemist about RSO. I will post my results so that progress can be made.
And, I agree with the prev poster that SS and Stink should collaborate on a guide, it could help a lot of people.
If anyone has any idea where to look for serious data on this sort of hydro additive, please post here. There are several bloom additives that are very expensive and I believe that they could all be produced fairly easily at home if the formulae were known. There are abundant know-it-alls here on RIU, but they all seem to fade away when an real application for their "knowledge" comes up. Sorry, still pissed about a rather difficult exchange with a self-proclaimed chemist about RSO. I will post my results so that progress can be made.And, I agree with the prev poster that SS and Stink should collaborate on a guide, it could help a lot of people.
StinkBud
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Here's what I recommend. Get your calculator out and let's do some math. Figure out how much it costs you in nutes per batch. Subtract that from your harvest amount. Now laugh out loud! Sure you may have to spend $100/month on nutes but you harvest a pound every three weeks? What's a pound worth in your neck of the woods?Reducing the cost of nutes is a project that merits attention.
Whenever I get the itch to change things I ask myself "what is my goal". Do I want to increase yield? Do I want to increase quality? Maybe I want both but no matter what I always set some goals. If you're adding Sweet or molasses then you must be trying to increase quality because it really doesn't make anything grow bigger or faster. So if you're after quality then maybe you should rethink how to achieve your goal.
Let's talk about sugar. What happens when you burn sugar? You don't know? Try this, put some sugar in a frying pan and turn the heat on high. Wait... take the battery out of your smoke detector first. OK, now watch what happens. Now load yourself a bowl of sugar and take a big hit! How did that taste? Yummy? Or was it a little harsh? Sugars that taste sweet in our food don't taste quite so sweet when you smoke them.
One of my goals is to do a side by side test of Sweet and Molasses vs. nothing. Has anyone actually ever done a scientific test on the subject of adding carbs to the mix. Are the sugars absorbed directly into the plant or do they need to be broken down first. If that's the case then the sugars are feeding the bacteria and not the plant. Do we have any biologists in the room?
Here's my advice. Don't worry about adding sweet or molasses next round. Save a few buds from this round though so you can compare later. Now go buy some OG #18 seeds and fill your rack. Use my classic StinkBud recipe at 1000-1300PPM. Make sure you flush the last week. Now compare the OG#18 to your last batch. Then compare it to anything else on Earth. Let your buddies try it. I already know what's going to happen so I'm smiling as I write this.
StinkBud
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Thought I'd share this frosty nug with you! This is the Silver LA I was telling you guys about. It's not a huge producer but the quality is as good as it gets.
If I had to pick one strain from the 20+ I started with it would be the OG #18. Second choice would be the Purple Wreck, Stacked Kush, Silver LA or Candy Kush with them all being about equal in overall goodness.
Half the room is gone and we are ready for the next batch. We added another light in veg and two more lights in flower. This next round should be interesting.
Hold up your little finger...now look at this photo....that calyxe is the size of your little finger!
If I had to pick one strain from the 20+ I started with it would be the OG #18. Second choice would be the Purple Wreck, Stacked Kush, Silver LA or Candy Kush with them all being about equal in overall goodness.
Half the room is gone and we are ready for the next batch. We added another light in veg and two more lights in flower. This next round should be interesting.
Hold up your little finger...now look at this photo....that calyxe is the size of your little finger!
superstoner1
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I run the full botanicare pure blend pro line and additives and it cost less than $1.25 per dry ounce in nutes. try looking online, from plantlighting sweet is $39.90 per gal and shipping is $4-6 depending on quantity. One gallon cost more to ship than 4 galllons.
hehehemann
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Cheap nutes that really do work well are Dyna-Bloom with Protekt. I have given so many other lines a run, botanicare, floranova, advanced, cutting edge, ionic and house and garden. I constantly return to the dyna nutes because its just so easy, cheap, best tasting and same yield as the others. For anyone interested or also using them, I am finding 3.5ml per gallon of bloom and 2ml per gallon protekt to be a really good throughout the bloom cycle with a 1 week flush at the end.
For this run I am also using Sugaree from cutting edge solutions. Its also a sweet type product but made for hydro, it smells great
For this run I am also using Sugaree from cutting edge solutions. Its also a sweet type product but made for hydro, it smells great
420circuit
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Excellent posts. As far as cost, I do not sell any of my plants so need to be mindful of the expenses. I gave away several ounces recently, for a good cause. My wife is the most frugal human ever to walk the planet so I must be as economical as possible if I want to keep relations good on the home front. She is already distressed about the electric bill so keeping the other costs down is a priority. Also, the fact that the nute makers are profiteering, taking what I think is an unethically high profit from their product, I think in collusion with the others in the industry, is enough to get my goat. If I can make the equivalent of Sweet in my kitchen for 1-2% of what it costs to buy it, well I should, just because it is the right thing to do. If it really has some exotic formula that justifies the high cost, so be it, I'll keep buying it. But if it is just sugar water, why not take control of making it and maybe even make it better?
StinkBud
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After trimming last night I have to change my favorite strain to the Candy Kush. It produced twice as much as anything else, super easy to trim, smells unreal and tastes even better. It really does have everything going for it. The Stacked kush also came out dank as fuck but it's not a huge producer like the Candy Kush. Get yourself some Candy Kush seeds and thank me later....