HAns Panels Ordered

El Tiberon

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Talked with Hans today and he told me the Mother Panels are already new so there is no update to them. I went ahead and ordered two of them. Should be here in about a week. Going to use them for veg alone. $500 door to door.
 

El Tiberon

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Here is a link of the two units I bought. Hans told me since I was ordering two to order them through the regular LED site because it offers combined shipping for the two. He simply does whatever he has to do to make it right. He said they would take about 7 days to get here. I would suggest emailing him beforehand if you intend on buying multiples of the mother/veg model. It would save you about 50 dollars in shipping costs per set and prevent him from having any problems. I am really excited to get these and see how they will behave in the veg stage.

http://bonsaihero.com/motherplant.html
 

El Tiberon

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In the description i dont see something thats "new", did I miss it, do you?
I don't have any interest in his new design flowering panels. I only needed veg panels because they will be used at 3 degree north latitude. The longest day there is 12 hours 19 minutes. Hans told me that his mother panels are already new and will not be updated. If you have questions I would suggest contacting Hans.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Talked with Hans today and he told me the Mother Panels are already new so there is no update to them. I went ahead and ordered two of them. Should be here in about a week. Going to use them for veg alone. $500 door to door.
Yes the mother panel is new and won't be updated for awhile........

The flowering panel is being updated next week (Tues?)......little Birdie told me that Hans got on the OSRAM band wagon......cough....... oslons .......cough:-P
 

PSUAGRO.

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Cree XPE2 for the blue and red Leds
Osram Oslons for the two 660nm Leds. hope for more...
The deep red (660) oslon is an easy guess Guod:-P , beats the Philips by a good margin..........you think he sticks with cree for the 630? Haven't looked at the efficacy charts on the new XP-es......

Still think he's improving the cooling to up those lm/perwatt
 

guod

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I think this is a nice Upgrade for the Panel. overall maybe a 20-30% up.
cooling will also be easier with the XPE2. the thermal Resistance is about 50% lower against the old one.

a complete oslon panel....mmh... complete new Design...not my way in this case.
 

PSUAGRO.

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I think this is a nice Upgrade for the Panel. overall maybe a 20-30% up.
cooling will also be easier with the XPE2. the thermal Resistance is about 50% lower against the old one.

a complete oslon panel....mmh... complete new Design...not my way in this case.
Hans^^?? Lol............who ever doubts you??never been wrong,.........so it is a major upgrade, and I was wrong as usual:-P

We will find out who's right soon......i'm not betting against you
 

El Tiberon

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Yes the mother panel is new and won't be updated for awhile........

The flowering panel is being updated next week (Tues?)......little Birdie told me that Hans got on the OSRAM band wagon......cough....... oslons .......cough:-P
Hans said it was a matter of days so it is very close. It will be nice to see some of you guys work them and test them against some of the others. If I didn't have the sunlight available I would be in the market myself. Needless to say I am pretty happy about having a veg lighting system that has no heat and draws only 122 watts. This completely changes the game from the 260 watts of CFL I had to use in Mexico for veg.

No more of this.....

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PSUAGRO.

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No whites probably though huh
Ask Guod:fire:........most likely staying low wattage/highly efficient with his "low" price point.......No whites! Those super high lumen per watt whites are expensive as Fuck right now......in a couple years, look out!

Hans said it was a matter of days so it is very close. It will be nice to see some of you guys work them and test them against some of the others. If I didn't have the sunlight available I would be in the market myself. Needless to say I am pretty happy about having a veg lighting system that has no heat and draws only 122 watts. This completely changes the game from the 260 watts of CFL I had to use in Mexico for veg.

No more of this.....

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Your really gonna love them for veg! Almost unbeatable IMO........I vegged two autos with 23w(first phase), not kidding....less than one cfl bulb.
 

El Tiberon

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Your really gonna love them for veg! Almost unbeatable IMO........I vegged two autos with 23w(first phase), not kidding....less than one cfl bulb.
That is 60 days in a 65 liter pot under 4 6500k bulbs. I won't forget those days. If I can cut the electricity in half with the same result it is worth the money. In Mexico those bulbs were almost 25 dollars each then. 100 bucks for veg lights and throw them outside to flower. MASSIVE heat in a 4 x 4 tent. I went away from that and eventually built a smaller veg tent when I started cranking numbers out. I used a bathroom exhaust fan to get the heat out and was flipping 3-5 plants a week.

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AHHHHH, memories of Mexico......


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El Tiberon

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Mine were supposed to ship Monday but Hans said a picking machine was down. Supposedly it will ship today.
 

stardustsailor

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I think this is a nice Upgrade for the Panel. overall maybe a 20-30% up.
cooling will also be easier with the XPE2. the thermal Resistance is about 50% lower against the old one.

a complete oslon panel....mmh... complete new Design...not my way in this case.
You know that I seriously respect what you have to say ,always ...
But ...
Sometimes,I also take into consideration what the 'ladies ' have to ' say ' ....
So...
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SuperLemonHaze,fem,from seed,topped,4th week at veg .
(Old spectrum ...Lots of red wls during veg...Bad idea ...)
Ok ....It REALLY can get better than that ......
With some other combo(s) of Oslons ...
Only ...

Dunno ,if that's the most efficient led system ,though ...
It might not ...

But it sure can grow ,great plants with good-to great- ,final yields ....
 
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