half ass grows with high expectations get you no were!

harleyd13 said:

View attachment 1127514you must be talking about the last pic. its a trainwreck that i was growing. i did what everyone said not to do. i took all the sun leaves off because the buds were growing together so tightly that there was NO light penetration at all. the plant stayed small. under 2 feet but produced over 1 1/2 ounces... now back to the topic of this thread. while i do agree that good equipment will produce good results, there is NO substitute for experience.... all the high dollar toys wouldn't have helped me with my first grow. i was an idiot. 3 grows later and i've replaced $$$ with knowledge. now i can grow plants that produce ounces instead of grams. and i don't spend huge dollars. this years grow has cost me about $50-60 and i should get about a pound.

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mind imparting some knowledge? I still can't seem to get my plants to grow over 3 feet in less than 2-3 months, while some can do it in 1 month in a 3 gallon pot.. I don't get it... although my plants do have super tight node spacing grown indoors or outdoors. Wonder what I'm doing differently. I really want to grow an 8 ft tree.

What nutrients / soil do you use? I've been using a 3-1-2 ratio, but I'm starting to wonder if these plants need more p/k in veg like a 20-20-20 nute.

migenetics said:

Lol no LEDs are not superior I just happen to love rotors instead of pistons and don't understand his statement. Stable to me means I can take a male and a female make seeds and come out with F1 offspring that shows little to no differences. A clone could be from any generation and is by no means stable.

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Amen brother, I've owned 3 rotaries in my life and they were/are the greatest cars to drive. I don't know what Spanishfly means, perhaps he has never driven an FD.

riddleme said:

Plant in pic was grown to 21 inches tall with only 97 watts of light (see Avatar) and yielded 47.2 grams dry with an investment of only $280 (that included the seeds purchased online)

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ONLY $280 !!!
Puts calculator down - I reckon that cost you $168 an ounce. Forgive my saying so, but that hardly appears to be low cost growing.

This year so far I have spent €12.50 on a bottle of BioCanabium floracion fert, and 21 UKP on 5 Seedsman White Widow feminised seeds.
I sprouted three and sold the other two along with some seeds remaining from 2009 to another RIUer for $20 US, so that defrays my costs a little more.
OK, I reprocessed last year´s soil, and refreshed it with some substrate and wormcasts and perlite I had left over, and all my tubs etc I have from before, and I will spend a few Euros more on molasses. My lighting is free.

Result so far, here is one of my ladies:




Tied down, so each branch acts like the main cola - I will be surprised if I don´t get an ounce off of each branch - and I have two more girls like that.

Looking to be real sticky colas as well - after all it IS White Widow.

Now I reckon that IS REALLY inexpensive bud.

Spanishfly said:

ONLY $280 !!!
Puts calculator down - I reckon that cost you $168 an ounce. Forgive my saying so, but that hardly appears to be low cost growing.

This year so far I have spent €12.50 on a bottle of BioCanabium floracion fert, and 21 UKP on 5 Seedsman White Widow feminised.
I sprouted three and sold the other two along with some seeds remaining from 2009 to another RIUer for $20 US, so that defrays my costs a little more.
OK, I reprocessed last year´s soil, and fortified it with some substrate and wormcasts and perlite I had left over, and all my tubs etc I have from before, and I will spend a few Euros more on molasses. My lighting is free.

Result so far, here is one of my ladies:


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Tied down, so each branch acts like the main cola - I will be surprised if I don´t get an ounce off of each branch - and I have two more girls like that.

Now I reckon that IS REALLY inexpensive bud.

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Yeah it is.Thats one pretty lady.

@ harleyd 13 no wonder there isn't a trich on your buds cheap soil cheap nutes! not saying most expensive is always the best but cheap is sometimes a really bad idea.

@ spanish fly its pretty but is it gooey? i doubt it is as gooey as and indoor high scale grow.

dnkfrmthasoilz7 said:

i doubt it is as gooey as and indoor high scale grow.

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There is nothing you can do with little lights that you can´t do a hundred times better with the sun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpMri_zmh90 wrong but nice try

dnkfrmthasoilz7 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpMri_zmh90 wrong but nice try

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You just love to debate huh..Do you speak from exp or you are just peddling someone elses info.I have not seen no pics of nothing you say besides your avatar.

i love to debate with idiots because i crush every point they have to say so they just try to drop it and give empty retorts everytime so how about you come back with a real rebuttal instead steering away from the real topic.

wyteberrywidow said:

You just love to debate huh..Do you speak from exp or you are just peddling someone elses info.I have not seen no pics of nothing you say besides your avatar.

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Agree wyteberry, there are loads of folks who come on here to make comments and even give advice who have never done a grow.

again how does this relate to the topic at hand? here we go again empty retorts but you both must be comfortable with it because you both have nothing valid to say. lolz.

dnkfrmthasoilz7 said:

i love to debate with idiots because i crush every point they have to say so they just try to drop it and give empty retorts everytime so how about you come back with a real rebuttal instead steering away from the real topic.

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You have not crushed anything like i said go look at the book buds for less.That would crush this whole thread.Its pointless people can grow with a little bit of money spent on the grow.I sure as well did not spend 500 and i grow good quality buds.

dnkfrmthasoilz7 said:

again how does this relate to the topic at hand? here we go again empty retorts but you both must be comfortable with it because you both have nothing valid to say. lolz.

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What is this troll drivelling on about??

dnkfrmthasoilz7 said:

again how does this relate to the topic at hand? here we go again empty retorts but you both must be comfortable with it because you both have nothing valid to say. lolz.

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Ypu are the most ignorant person on riu.There is proof all around.Half of riu did not spend no fuckin 500 dollars to grow and half probably grow better than you.Speak from your knowledge and stop posting other peoples shit.

about the fact that you have no rhetoric skills and i think your the troll because you have done nothing but try to tear my ego down ( not working btw ) instead of saying anything to help prove your point how about something of vitality next time plz

dnkfrmthasoilz7 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpMri_zmh90 wrong but nice try

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maybe the fact that most of your responses are vids on youtube...maybe thats a sign.ive seen you hopping around on the threads here...are you posting things just to get "points"?you seem to preach that your way is the only way...and the second anyone goes against you...which most people are...your only response is a youtube video.if your theories and opinions are so strong..why not tell us in your own words.if this is some kinda ego thing i get it...but damn...these threads are here for more than trying to prove you have a bigger dick....aka plant...then everyone else.every grower and situation is different...there is no 100% wrong as is there is no 100% right....you know what...after a few hits..ive figured it out..you work for youtube.if not...im guessing youtube gives you some sort of wood?....thats not good...theres still decent porn out there....STOP MASTURBATING TO GROW VIDEOS

looks like the too stooges have each other's back on this one, i must be wrong ahahahahahahahaha

djruiner said:

maybe the fact that most of your responses are vids on youtube...maybe thats a sign.ive seen you hopping around on the threads here...are you posting things just to get "points"?you seem to preach that your way is the only way...and the second anyone goes against you...which most people are...your only response is a youtube video.if your theories and opinions are so strong..why not tell us in your own words.if this is some kinda ego thing i get it...but damn...these threads are here for more than trying to prove you have a bigger dick....aka plant...then everyone else.every grower and situation is different...there is no 100% wrong as is there is no 100% right....you know what...after a few hits..ive figured it out..you work for youtube.if not...im guessing youtube gives you some sort of wood?....thats not good...theres still decent porn out there....STOP MASTURBATING TO GROW VIDEOS

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Thank you.Ive seen countless threads by thiss guy with other peoples shit not one was of his own and im the one that cant back nothing up.

make that the 3 stooges pantera is horrible by the way.