Growing in unheated garage

jonsmith2012ad

jonsmith2012ad

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79Toaster said:
It's just a thin foil laying at the bottom of a tent. You can buy it off amazon at different power ratings. This one is 150W/m2 hooked to a thermostat

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It's stupid simple and it's enough to keep those girls feet warm at night. Look up calorique on amazon.
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Oh I just meant that and the tent. I’ve been looking at investing in a tent but I am like the worst ever at putting anything together, following directions for assembly. I want one but I’m wondering if it would just be a waste feel like I’d mess it up.
 
Roger A. Shrubber

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what kind of light are you planning to use? you'll have to run heat if you run leds, but if you go with h.i.d. lighting, you can at least get away with running the heat a lot lower. and unless the smell gets to be an issue, get a fan controller and run your fan just high enough to keep the light from overheating.
 
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jonsmith2012ad said:
Oh I just meant that and the tent. I’ve been looking at investing in a tent but I am like the worst ever at putting anything together, following directions for assembly. I want one but I’m wondering if it would just be a waste feel like I’d mess it up.
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They're easy to put up, I recommend Apollo tents (because they gave me a tent) but they really do have awesome customer service (did I mention they gave me a tent:mrgreen:) and a good product at a very reasonable price as well. Also an Apollo is very easy to put up compared to some others
 
jonsmith2012ad

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Beachwalker said:
They're easy to put up, I recommend Apollo tents (because they gave me a tent) but they really do have awesome customer service (did I mention they gave me a tent:mrgreen:) and a good product at a very reasonable price as well. Also an Apollo is very easy to put up compared to some others
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Thanks man I’ll give them a try.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Kingrow1 said:
Heat the garage, you cant heat vented tents otherwise.

:-)
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Really? Is that why my vented tent stays above 65 degrees F when it's 45 inside the garage?
Daveindiego said:
Standard pallet would give you what you need to.



Everything has gotten so much better for me getting out of the tent, and into this bare closet. You seem pretty into your ‘hobby’, why not build yourself something in the garage to grow? The height limitation of the tent is a fucking killer.
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Because I don't want anything permanent that's why I have a tent. I can move it to any room in my house but I like it where it is. I just didn't like my plants suitting on the cold concrete.


Roger A. Shrubber said:
what kind of light are you planning to use? you'll have to run heat if you run leds, but if you go with h.i.d. lighting, you can at least get away with running the heat a lot lower. and unless the smell gets to be an issue, get a fan controller and run your fan just high enough to keep the light from overheating.
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I'm running a 600 watt HPS. I've been growing in the tent for awhile. It's just gotten colder and the floor is concrete. I have a fan controller and run it as slow as it goes.
 
Dividedsky

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You'll be fine bro, I'm in the north east and it's getting cold here, but I'm running a mini split a/c. Seems silly in the winter but im running a sealed room with co2 so I have to, only venting when lights out and have baseboard gas heat in flower room. I'm in a basement by the way.
 
Kingrow1

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xtsho said:
Really? Is that why my vented tent stays above 65 degrees F when it's 45 inside the garage?


Because I don't want anything permanent that's why I have a tent. I can move it to any room in my house but I like it where it is. I just didn't like my plants suitting on the cold concrete.




I'm running a 600 watt HPS. I've been growing in the tent for awhile. It's just gotten colder and the floor is concrete. I have a fan controller and run it as slow as it goes.
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I dont know, most here have zero concept of how to read air temps and generally need me to school them with the science four or five times till they finally get it.

Then we get to how to actually heat a tent and thats by placing it in a room where the air temps are 20c and above not by releasing heat into the tent and hope it magically dosent woosh outa the extractor fan in a second flat lost to the cold room outside.

If your sure your sure but you seem to want to grow in 45f temps and hope it works by simply heqting the base.

Good luck :-)
 
Dividedsky

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Kingrow1 said:
I dont know, most here have zero concept of how to read air temps and generally need me to school them with the science four or five times till they finally get it.

Then we get to how to actually heat a tent and thats by placing it in a room where the air temps are 20c and above not by releasing heat into the tent and hope it magically dosent woosh outa the extractor fan in a second flat lost to the cold room outside.

If your sure your sure but you seem to want to grow in 45f temps and hope it works by simply heqting the base.

Good luck :-)
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You're talking about new growers don't have an understanding of how a passive air intake works, right? you are correct though, heat the garage when lights are off for sure, even when lights are on, keep you inline fan on and you'll be recirculating warm air in and out of the tent.
 
Bbcchance

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Dividedsky said:
You're talking about new growers don't have an understanding of how a passive air intake works, right? you are correct though, heat the garage when lights are off for sure, even when lights are on, keep you inline fan on and you'll be recirculating warm air in and out of the tent.
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Homie dont want to hear heat the garage, he just wants an attaboy, ataboy OP! Do you man:peace:
 
Yodaweed

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You are going to get mold, cold temps like that really help mold growth.

Move your tent to a heated area. Or heat your garage.
 
Kingrow1

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Dividedsky said:
You're talking about new growers don't have an understanding of how a passive air intake works, right? you are correct though, heat the garage when lights are off for sure, even when lights are on, keep you inline fan on and you'll be recirculating warm air in and out of the tent.
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yes but not just new growers unfortunately.

Heat is radiation conduction convection at its simplest, some seem to think a 600watt is an efficient heater, it simply is not and why the room outside remains cold :-)
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Kingrow1 said:
I dont know, most here have zero concept of how to read air temps and generally need me to school them with the science four or five times till they finally get it.

Then we get to how to actually heat a tent and thats by placing it in a room where the air temps are 20c and above not by releasing heat into the tent and hope it magically dosent woosh outa the extractor fan in a second flat lost to the cold room outside.

If your sure your sure but you seem to want to grow in 45f temps and hope it works by simply heqting the base.

Good luck :-)
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Well I do have a heater in the tent. I'm not heating the floor yet.

Of course the heat gets sucked out but it's just a 4 x 4 tent and with the extraction fan turned down as low as it goes enough heat remains inside to keep it 65F at lights out. I also run lights at night when it's colder and lights off during the day when it's warmer. A small clip-on fan located over the heater and aimed between the light and the plants circulates the warm air as well.

Heating the garage is out of the question and I'm not bringing the tent inside the house. So this is how I roll.

My main concern was the temperature of the root zone having fabric pots sitting on the cold concrete floor. This resolves that issue. I can put my finger in the soil and tell it's warmer just a day later.




 
xtsho

xtsho

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Bbcchance said:
Homie dont want to hear heat the garage, he just wants an attaboy, ataboy OP! Do you man:peace:
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I don't need an "attaboy". I had an issue and I resolved it. I don't need to heat the garage when a heater inside the tent will keep it warm enough. I wanted to get the grow medium off of a cold concrete slab so the root zone would be warm. I accomplished that and shared how I did it. If you want to heat two car garage when you don't have to that's fine. Plus the garage is actually used for parking a car as well. I chose to just heat my grow tent. I'm solving a problem not trying to spend thousands of dollars to heat a garage because I need to heat a 4 x 4 space in the corner.


Yodaweed said:
You are going to get mold, cold temps like that really help mold growth.

Move your tent to a heated area. Or heat your garage.
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I guess you missed what I was doing. I'm not growing in cold temps. I have the temps in the tent just fine without heating the garage. The problem I resolved was getting the plants in fabric pots off of a cold concrete slab so the root zone was warmer.


It's so easy for people to just say "Heat the garage". Without covering the concrete slab with flooring ,putting in another sealed garage door, and purchasing the heating equipment, it can't be heated efficiently and would be a waste of money. I'm not putting in flooring as we still park a car inside, I'm not replacing the garage door, and I'm not buying a heating system just so a 4 x 4 tent is the right temp. A damn oil filled $50 heater inside the tent keeps it 65F +.
 
Kingrow1

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So a flimsy line of heating elements heats a massive pot of soil, i highly doubt that unless the air is also of a temperature otherwise the thermal mass is far too large..

That said with slow enough extraction you can retain heat, most have their extraction far too high anyway, not making wind tunnels.

This is your only real option, at this point you dont need to heat the floor just use insulating material to hold the heat in and the air temps will do the rest.

:-)
 
Yodaweed

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xtsho said:
I don't need an "attaboy". I had an issue and I resolved it. I don't need to heat the garage when a heater inside the tent will keep it warm enough. I wanted to get the grow medium off of a cold concrete slab so the root zone would be warm. I accomplished that and shared how I did it. If you want to heat two car garage when you don't have to that's fine. Plus the garage is actually used for parking a car as well. I chose to just heat my grow tent. I'm solving a problem not trying to spend thousands of dollars to heat a garage because I need to heat a 4 x 4 space in the corner.




I guess you missed what I was doing. I'm not growing in cold temps. I have the temps in the tent just fine without heating the garage. The problem I resolved was getting the plants in fabric pots off of a cold concrete slab so the root zone was warmer.


It's so easy for people to just say "Heat the garage". Without covering the concrete slab with flooring ,putting in another sealed garage door, and purchasing the heating equipment, it can't be heated efficiently and would be a waste of money. I'm not putting in flooring as we still park a car inside, I'm not replacing the garage door, and I'm not buying a heating system just so a 4 x 4 tent is the right temp. A damn oil filled $50 heater inside the tent keeps it 65F +.
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Might have missed it, if your temps are consistent you should be good, but i wouldnt grow in my garage, it's freezing out there.
 
Bbcchance

Bbcchance

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xtsho said:
I don't need an "attaboy". I had an issue and I resolved it. I don't need to heat the garage when a heater inside the tent will keep it warm enough. I wanted to get the grow medium off of a cold concrete slab so the root zone would be warm. I accomplished that and shared how I did it.
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Ataboy
 
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