getting clones in ontario?

I was pissed.
Believe me i wanted to maltov cocktail the little cafe but my gf talked me out of it.
Funny part is he thought he burned me for $150 but he really screwed himself because the next week i spent $1000 at the gta seedbank buying beans for a buddy.

torontoke said:

Mark told me that his seeds were sold as souvenirs and they cant talk about germination issues so he could only offer me $10 off my next pack.
And that was after buying three packs and not getting one viable seed.

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He always had people complaining of poor germination on his forum. I had a few beans that were slow to crack, probably old.

redi jedi said:

He always had people complaining of poor germination on his forum. I had a few beans that were slow to crack, probably old.

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Well theres a reason the forum is down and he seems to be out of the biz.
Live and learn right. I took my expensive lesson and try to tell whoever i can so no one else gets taken.

I've always thought about making some seeds but don't know much about genetics. Can u buy a pack of seeds grow them out and then get the same plant from its seeds?

Dr. Neb said:

I've always thought about making some seeds but don't know much about genetics. Can u buy a pack of seeds grow them out and then get the same plant from its seeds?

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If it were only that easy everyone would just buy one pack of seeds and keep doing that.
Breeders do put in alot of work. They grow out many many hundreds of plants to perfect a strain, then they have to run alot of testers to make sure everythings stable.

Dr. Neb said:

I've always thought about making some seeds but don't know much about genetics. Can u buy a pack of seeds grow them out and then get the same plant from its seeds?

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Theres always genetic variation within a given strain...different phenos...since today its rare to find a strain that hasn't been fuct with and crossed six ways to sunday.

Dr. Neb said:

I've always thought about making some seeds but don't know much about genetics. Can u buy a pack of seeds grow them out and then get the same plant from its seeds?

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How exactly is it that ur in here talking about becoming a breeder meanwhile you started a thread in a different section asking people how to get the most yield out of an area?
Have u grown a plant yet? U may want to start off with smaller steps.

torontoke said:

Well theres a reason the forum is down and he seems to be out of the biz.
Live and learn right. I took my expensive lesson and try to tell whoever i can so no one else gets taken.

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Sounds like u trying to talk shit about somebody u don't kno over a few packs of seeds that u had trouble with, mark is still in business to the misinformed people in the room , but what do u expect from somebody who recommends billy bud when he hasn't even used them before or wants to firebomb somebody's store over 150? How old r u 16 lol? Anyways coming from somebody that knows mark and smoked countless joints at his club u go talk to him buddy he will give u free seeds , I'll give him a call now and let him kno how hurt u were sigh

chinakush said:

Sounds like u trying to talk shit about somebody u don't kno over a few packs of seeds that u had trouble with, mark is still in business to the misinformed people in the room , but what do u expect from somebody who recommends billy bud when he hasn't even used them before or wants to firebomb somebody's store over 150? How old r u 16 lol? Anyways coming from somebody that knows mark and smoked countless joints at his club u go talk to him buddy he will give u free seeds , I'll give him a call now and let him kno how hurt u were sigh

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I guess u missed the part about someone else having issues with his crappy non viable seeds.
If he is still in business than thats even worse because his website hasnt worked in a few years, probably so people didnt read about his souvenirs.
I live in the real world were facts are what they are. I gave the guy multiple chances to make things right but i guess i wasnt chinese enough to worry about. I never got to actually try any of his genetics but i did smoke a boatload of bud from clones from billybuddz.
I wont ever recommend either of them again based on what ive seen and now heard.

if i encountered the same service with the same complaints, i wouldn't go there again.
what's childish about that? bad experiences mean those people won't go back & tell their friends about it. that's how business works.
the post mentioned that there was effort for Mark to "give love" and didn't. that's bad for business and that gets a reputation.

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well you got me on the firebomb. i forgot about that....that wasn't right especially for $160. i don't know him or you personally so i don't have a vested interest in this.
if your friend treated him like that, that's not right either...
i think i said something where i shouldn't have...ooops

doingdishes said:

well you got me on the firebomb. i forgot about that....that wasn't right especially for $160. i don't know him or you personally so i don't have a vested interest in this.
if your friend treated him like that, that's not right either...
i think i said something where i shouldn't have...ooops

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hey doingdishes peace, i appreciate your input on this forum as you are alot more active then i am and better informed about the news which i come here for, . even though i have 20 big posts lol i only contribute when i hear concrete news, its better to say less and leave it to the more informed people(im sure not the only one)then to talk alot and really not say much at all like some.

i appologize for intruding the thread peace.

It's best to hear the good and bad. For every good review I find I look for more negative as I know (and we have all been shown via this sub forum) companies AND LPs! Like to push there product or service. Il chime in on the 420 thing though after my Billy bud bad experience. I called TIME or happy girl whatever the fuck they are and got good communication service. Came time to buy some clones and look over the product from those clones and I drove my ass down to that hole in a wall 2 times with no results, the 2nd was via appointment keep in mind. I know someone who bought his critical mass and Jack herrer beans and honestly everything was wayyy off. I mean we had fat fat indices and thin stretchy sativas all from the same pack. He was a shitty grower so throw that into the mix too. My opinion, never buy clones unless your cutting them off yourself or very highly trusted. As for beans, my best in person experience would have to go to GTA Seedbank, I hope they open back up. They carried every breeder + local breeders. Second I'm going to have to say Niagara seed bank, tons of strains + knowledge. They used to carry clones yet again they used to sell meds too but no longer do...down the street from OPP detachment lol as for online and my go-to with promos and freebies goes to attitude seedbank in the Uk. Best is pick and mix, instead of buying a pack of every strain they can send you 1, better for budget/experience/knowledge and variety. Hope that helps...kinda

Another place to check out online is single seeds Canada they come from the uk but they offer all name brand breeders in Canadian $$and u can order one of lots of different gear. I also recommend buying an online visa or mc gift card to use for the purchaseIMO I have had good luck with them I even had an order smashed in shipping and they replaced after I emailed them pics quick and painless. I hope this helps.

Peace

torontoke said:

How exactly is it that ur in here talking about becoming a breeder meanwhile you started a thread in a different section asking people how to get the most yield out of an area?
Have u grown a plant yet? U may want to start off with smaller steps.

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torontoke said:

How exactly is it that ur in here talking about becoming a breeder meanwhile you started a thread in a different section asking people how to get the most yield out of an area?
Have u grown a plant yet? U may want to start off with smaller steps.

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lol Ive grown before I just like to hear different opinions

GrowRock said:

Another place to check out online is single seeds Canada they come from the uk but they offer all name brand breeders in Canadian $$and u can order one of lots of different gear. I also recommend buying an online visa or mc gift card to use for the purchaseIMO I have had good luck with them I even had an order smashed in shipping and they replaced after I emailed them pics quick and painless. I hope this helps.

Peace

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I've ordered several times from them as well with no issues and surprisingly quick shipping considering they come from the UK. I also enjoy the option of being able to order singles rather than full packs.

R.Raider said:

I've ordered several times from them as well with no issues and surprisingly quick shipping considering they come from the UK. I also enjoy the option of being able to order singles rather than full packs.

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lots of dead seeds there. They do no germination testing whatsoever. Got burned many times from them.. Hit and miss. Don't count their strainss before they hatch. Not all come with a piece of original package which is shady. Some are real?. Hit and miss. 7/10

no need to argue and throw insults around folks

Peter...YOU BUY FROM 420?

id had you figured for someone that doesn't need anyone to fill those shoes.... seems your persona is evolving
Buying from people you don't know is a problem Mr.

gb123 said:

Peter...YOU BUY FROM 420?

id had you figured for someone that doesn't need anyone to fill those shoes.... seems your persona is evolving
Buying from people you don't know is a problem Mr.

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not 420...the experiences with single seeds UK are mixed. Certain breeders stocks are old and dead and some are not verified with a piece of the original package. When there is a piece of the package it isn't always one tenth of a ten pack. Always smaller. Lots of room for cheating with that MO. Also they do not do germination tests or trash old seeds. More reasons to buy directly from the breeders. Support all breeders directly is the way to go.