For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

I reuse as much as I can. And the grow store had a very similar product that was a little bit less. Looked exactly the same.

With your coco in the titian? Do you feel that you still get a degassing of the rootmass?

Only been using it a week so can't give good info yet.

Side by side i have seen zero plus to the tron over other mediums! Thats why im sticking with
growdan, and waiting to get those inner sleeves to allow me to use the cana coco

Only side bys I really ever did where slabs vs 5 gallon buckets of hydro...different locations also. Not a fair test.

this is one of those things that I do as much as a hold over from my (allegded) illegal days.. Hydroton can be cleaned and reused requiring fewer risky trips to the grow store.. and sooooo much better than cleaning pea stone/gravel

Because I am in a legal state a service other caregivers,I started puttin my clones in #1 or #2 smart pots of a coco mix. They can then go pretty much anywhere. I just set them on top of my hydroton at the high water line. any dirt growers just plant the whole thing..

Alcofree said:

What about replacing the foam inserts with RW then going straight to Hydro-medium? Sounds like this may be easier???

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This is what I prefer. from cloner to ebb pot. no damaged roots.no shock.no extra material to hold unpleasent suprises.

Hopefully I can get the pictures in order.. Doing it is simple. getting pic to here ??not so much

AWESOME! Nice job with the pics! Thats what Im currently doing into soil. I had thought about finding/making some 2" circle RW inserts for the cloner however your process appears to eliminate the need for this. I got one more dirt run currently vegging then Im gonna give the Dro a shot!

Thanks much for the help!

This is the only stuff available at my store...Botanicare Cocogro Coir Fiber Bale 5kg. Is this the same stuff you have had success with?

Alcofree said:

This is the only stuff available at my store...Botanicare Cocogro Coir Fiber Bale 5kg. Is this the same stuff you have had success with?

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I'm using the boticare "aeration formula" very light weight, lots of chunky perilite. Pre-mixed. The bricks are a pain in the ass

hellraizer30 said:

I read the guy mining the hydrotron retired but wasnt 100% sure but now it makes sense

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I heard that the original clay mine had simply been over mined for to long, leading to erosion and a very dangerous situation. Don't fear, because B'Cuzz recently bought two new clay mines. Hydroton isn't going anywhere.

HomeLessBeans said:

I'm using the boticare "aeration formula" very light weight, lots of chunky perilite. Pre-mixed. The bricks are a pain in the ass

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And you use with smart pots and top off with Hydroton? I noticed that the "Flo-n-Gro" system uses square pots and come with fabric inner pots with a "snap" feature that holds the pot secure so they dont float. Kinda leaning towards the "Flo-n-Gro" over the "Ebb-n-Flo" for this reason...

Last I checked the flo n grow dosnt come with the liner. I just bought some. But there only 4 bucks each. But yes the baskets snap in. And the liners pull down to cover the top 2" of the buckets. And pumps are powerful so placing the res 15-20 feet away is no big deal. Mine is 15 feet away. And out of the light. No res cooler needed.

Alcofree said:

And you use with smart pots and top off with Hydroton? I noticed that the "Flo-n-Gro" system uses square pots and come with fabric inner pots with a "snap" feature that holds the pot secure so they dont float. Kinda leaning towards the "Flo-n-Gro" over the "Ebb-n-Flo" for this reason...

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I feel the titian is superior for many reasons. I don't "top with" hydro I set the smart pot of coco on top of the hydroton.

im running the monster E&G's but the fing control buckets keep dying on me. been battling overwatering with the brains. already returned each of my brain buckets a few months ago and now 1 of the "new" brain buckets is flooding too much for some reason. was told i could switch out to the titan brain bucket..what you guys think of that? thanks.

dirk d said:

im running the monster E&G's but the fing control buckets keep dying on me. been battling overwatering with the brains. already returned each of my brain buckets a few months ago and now 1 of the "new" brain buckets is flooding too much for some reason. was told i could switch out to the titan brain bucket..what you guys think of that? thanks.

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It's a good bucket. Hasn't failed me yet. But you will need to change your monster bucket hoses to 3/4.

Titian is much better.sweet deal IMHO . Does the monster not already run 3/4 inch lines ??

Warlock1369 said:

It's a good bucket. Hasn't failed me yet. But you will need to change your monster bucket hoses to 3/4.

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monsters run the 3/4" lines.

HomeLessBeans said:

Titian is much better.sweet deal IMHO . Does the monster not already run 3/4 inch lines ??

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just wondering if mixing the titan brains and the monster buckets are going to lead to any problems. Titan's brain bucket is smaller than CAP's brain bucket, plus Titan uses 1/2" lines from the fill pump to the brain. CAP uses 3/4" lines and my lid is already plumbed. Titan's top float valve is at 10" CAP's top float valve is at 12". Idk just trying to figure out what is best for long term use. thanks again guys.

Guess I gotta read up on CrAP products agin. Didn't know they up sized the flow. And realy if you need the 12 inch switches you can just Chang the bucket to a 5 gallon and set them to where you want. I don't see the need sence most fill pots 2 inch under the lip and raise the buckets 2". But then I haven't Tryed the cross over. And yes Titan uses 1/2 feed lines. But 1200gph pumps. And if you already have the cap bucket you have the 3/4 line hookups. Just make the hole bigger and your done. Can always go bigger. Smaller is harder.

HomeLessBeans said:

This is what I prefer. from cloner to ebb pot. no damaged roots.no shock.no extra material to hold unpleasent suprises.

Hopefully I can get the pictures in order.. Doing it is simple. getting pic to here ??not so much

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Thank you for this! This is awesome stuff and helps a LOT with the transplant shock I'm dealing with.

FYI, My replacement for Hydroton for any interested is Sunleave's Rocks. They have a lame ass slogan about not rolling, but they do have some Silica in them. They are easier to clean than Hydroton, and seem to be working pretty well for me.

I've got to agree with madmike up there. Sunleaves Rocks rocks. They don't seem to get as coated with algae as hydroton, and are definitely easier to work with.

Cool to hear about the sunleaves rock. Just made a order for them. They are ph neutral and sterile. Not like the growstones which I have Hurd some bad things about.