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Is there a way to introduce beneficial bacteria without all the slime and gunk in these system?

enotee said:

Is there a way to introduce beneficial bacteria without all the slime and gunk in these system?

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Im having alot of luck with a simple formula
of aqua shield 7ml per gal and pirahna at 2ml
per gal seems real clean.

I have a few questions, Finally got my babies transplanted into my Ebb and grow 12 site with hydroton. I have the timer set to water 4 times a day at 30 mins a piece. It didnt seem like it was getting the water level up fast enough before it would start draining. Just wondering if that could lead to overwatering? Also, I was wondering if anyone has used orca with this setup before. Right now I am using AN sensi grow a and b and then B52 also. PPM is at 410 and PH is at 5.6. Kinda pissed though because the leaves on the clones I got look very sativa-ish and I need an 8 week plant because I have 12 weeks from today when my apt inspector comes....... SOOOO yeah lol I might have to rip these babies all out and start new with a heavy indica. The stain is supposidly lemon skunk.

GreenDyl said:

I have a few questions, Finally got my babies transplanted into my Ebb and grow 12 site with hydroton. I have the timer set to water 4 times a day at 30 mins a piece. It didnt seem like it was getting the water level up fast enough before it would start draining. Just wondering if that could lead to overwatering? Also, I was wondering if anyone has used orca with this setup before. Right now I am using AN sensi grow a and b and then B52 also. PPM is at 410 and PH is at 5.6. Kinda pissed though because the leaves on the clones I got look very sativa-ish and I need an 8 week plant because I have 12 weeks from today when my apt inspector comes....... SOOOO yeah lol I might have to rip these babies all out and start new with a heavy indica. The stain is supposidly lemon skunk.

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I hav more than 12 pots hooked up and find 15 mins 3-4 times a day is plenty of water. Never used orca, sensi is ok,same with b52. I perfer to run my nutes in the 1000 ppm range. as far as restarting? maybe just do a shorter veg time? we would need to know much nore about your 'lemon skunk' to be accurate imho.

Hang On ill post a pic you can see what you think, I just switched it up to 3x 15 mins once before lights on, halfway through lights on and then just before lights out. I am on an 18/6 schedule.

This is the so called lemon skunk. I looked at some things online and everything did say it would look like this

any lemon thai un there? you are not wrong on the sativa look..

idk man, I talked to the guy again he swears its an 8 week strain with a heavy yield. I got another question too, I put the bottom of my starter cube right at where the water stops is that bad? I guess if it comes down to it I should just throw something in there to raise the inner buckets up? I have the like brown starter cubes not rockwool. Not really sure what they are called.

Then ya gotta believe him. Sounds like perfect placement. I don't raise my pots. Inner or both.
If they a solid with a premade hole prob riot/rapid rooters. If the hav a netting outer then peat plugs!

Looks sativa dom to me. So dont take the guys word and cut in 8 weeks. Get a scope and judge for your self. And 30 min for 12 sites is alot. I do 15 min for 15 plants. Different system but same idea. If your system is still filling after 30 min you do have a problem. Kinked hose would be my guess.

I fixed the timing to 3x 15 mins its working like a charm now, One problem I am having is the PH is raising so fast its like im adding ph down 2 or 3 times a day to keep it under 6.0. All I am using is sensi A and B and then B52. Maybe Its from the water left in the buckets which would be my guess. Maybe Ill just start making the PH 5.5 or 5.4 in the res and see if it rasies up to 5.6 when it floods.

Run a 24 hour flush. Use florakleen. Mix with clean ph water. Have it run 4 times within the 24 hours. Drain the res. Fill with clean water. Run the system 1 more time. Not ph'ed or nutes just the water. Once it ran the cycle check your ppm and ph. And your nutes and retest ph and adjust. Let it run for 24 hours then check ph if it's within 5.2-6.2. Leave it. But check daily. The 5.2-6.2 is the flex range the system should run. And don't fight to keep 5.8. If I have to adjust the ph more then 4 times a week this is what I do. Also make sure you meter is calibrated. I always have drops as a back up. To much flex in ph means something is wrong. Bacteria set in. So a flush should do it. If not you need to take stronger aproch. H2o2 might be needed. And not the 3% you get from the store. Needs to be 30% foodgrade or better. Where gloves when dealing with that shit. You will burn and bleach your hands. And yes plants can take 24-72 hours of just water. But only if needed.

Yeah I am probably gonna have to run H2O2. Should I just buy the stuff AN makes or buy the 30% foodgrade stuff? Will this kill the babies in my system? they seem like they are doing all right except the new leaves seem smaller. The roots on these things cant be too big yet they have only been in the system for a few days. I'm pretty sure its bacteria cause there is like this scummy shit all in my control bucket and a bunch of like booger like slimey things in the rez water. Gonna go get H2O2 tom and flush. Not really quite sure how to do it though some input would be nice.

It won't hurt them if they are rooted. AN is 30% I believe. If you use 2-3 ml per gallon you will be fine. If it is 10% they mixed it with DI water. So you would need 6-9 ml a gallon. And scrub the best you can and rince before you drain the system.

Oh that should only rise your ppm by 30. That is safe for plants. Rise that up to 10x to disinfect a system with out plants. So 30ppm good for plants 300ppm is death.

I think what caused this is I put 4 new plants in the system that were out of sunshine mix #4 but i had washed the roots all off. There was still a little dirt on the roots like a cluster at the top but I figured it wasn't enough to do anything but it must have had some bad bacteria in it that have completly taken over cause I take one scoop out of my rez and its got a bunch of those litlle algae like slimey boogers in it. Gonna run H2O2 tom and see what happens.

Im probably gonna wash all the buckets out too cause they all have a brown slime on the bottom. I just hope its not the cyanobacteria... but it probably is because my rez temps never go above 68 and i have 2 airstones in the rez.

Oh yeah I was gonna ask, Say I empty my rez and scrub out all the buckets and what not, can I use the h202 with tap water which mine is city water instead of the RO water im using now?

If your roots are out of the net pots don't stress them out. Just run the system every 6 hours. This will kill everything. But if you realy want to clean then have a bucket with water then place the plants in that and clean. But don't recamend it. Your only mixing in live bacteria in large form and that could stop the H2O2 from doing it's job fighting small amounts. I'll give you a visual. Say you dip your finger in melted butter. How hard is it to get off? Alittle warm water. But now dip it a few times and let cool between. Now get it off. Not so easy.

Use you can use tap water. Just test ppm first. Add h2o2 till you get 30-40 ppm above the starting water. Still 2-3 ml/gal. Start at 2 and go up from there.