Flushing = ignorance

Big_Lou

Big_Lou

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HydoDan said:
The difference is between moist and wet not in our methods... Both do work...
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I've drained the dish and now have them in damp toweling only. It dries out pretty fast, though, so I'll assume I'm supposed to just keep moistening it, or?
 
growman3666

growman3666

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Big_Lou said:
I've drained the dish and now have them in damp toweling only. It dries out pretty fast, though, so I'll assume I'm supposed to just keep moistening it, or?
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Can you find a container thats air tight? So you can seal it and leave it without losing moisture? I normally dont even comment about germination methods, but ill tell you what works the best imo and that I do everytime i germinate. From 15 years of experience.

Simply i take a tupperware container, lay a papertowel folded over a few times on the bottom of the container. Wet the papertowel and drain excess water from container so yes the towel is moist. Now instead of folding a part of the towel over the seeds i just drop the seeds in on top roll em around a little bit, close the lid, put into a dark warm place, come back in a day or two and see taproots coming out. I really prefer this way over folding the towel over the seeds, although both work i find higher chance of drowing by completely enveloping the seeds.
 
Big_Lou

Big_Lou

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That occurred to me right away (plastic wrap/sealed dish), but I thought that I'd be encouraging a rot/mold environment. (?)
 
growman3666

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Just so you know this completely hijacked the main topic of this thread. I was enjoying the good "debate" going on
 
bgmike8

bgmike8

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researching said:
1. There is no scientific data that I am aware of to support either side. It's preference. And no resources were cited to substantiate.

2. The magazine is about business which equals $, which means the ultimate point of the article is yield.

3. These two paragraphs show they have no conclusive evidence, just theory.

"If the data comes back in favor of flushing, we know we have not considered all the variables, and we will set out in search of those"

"There is no question that flushing removes nutrients from the root zone, so the key question is whether flushing the root zone has any influence on the sensible qualities of the plant’s biomass — in particular, smokeability and taste control. In the meantime, we all get to exercise our brains a little."

4. Flushing and not flushing = ignorance if we are stating things fairly. As far as I know there is no published scientific data to support either preference. At the end of the day it's a preference.

I flush as has probably already been ascertained. I do it because it cant hurt from my standpoint, and there are enough nutes left for the plant to feed on until it shows a deficiency. It's usually around time to chop then anyway.

No one yet can convince me otherwise and I always find this and other opinionated arguments funny, because we try so hard to prove we "are right". I don't care. I know what works for me and that's great. What works for you is great too. Doesn't mean I'm gonna do it or care to do do it.

Flush or don't flush. It doesn't matter. When people pass judgement because they think their way is the best or right way, makes me chuckle.
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I had meant to reply to this earlier.
The point of posting this article is not to try and prove that I'm right. It's not even proof that you shouldnt flush.

To me the significance of this article is that it is from people independent of a nutrient company and they are saying hey man there is no science. It's unlikely that flushing does anything..

If I'm wrong I'm wrong. I'll change my ways.
But the point is that people need to think about it . The more I read the more I disagree with doing it.
I have a horticulture book coming along with a book on plant nutrition.
If you can tell me the mechanics of what's going on in the plant that makes the bud cleaner and better than a non flushed plant then I will listen.


For instance, what do you think about this dudes opinion ?
Resinhound said:
Because plants don't store nutrients, they store the starches they produce by way of photosynthesis . Nutrients are consumed in the conversion during photosynthesis and in the biosynthesis of new tissues.
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Indacouch

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bgmike8 said:
I'm worried about doing anything other than indicas that have the highest listed yield potential... I have to make money.
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Indeed ......my SS haze buds look enemic compared to my indas .....however there's next to nobody doing them in my lil corner so my patients have been asking me to do a sat dom for a while so I finally did ....I'm not in it for money ...olde sis has cerebral palsy so I grow for her and others like her .....and some cancer patients all of them very sick so my payment is giving them quality of life even if it's just for a few minutes ......
 
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