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You are a joke. without google you wouldn't know what a micro nute is. Tell me what the total amount of nitrogen as nitrate or ammonium plus urea, and potential acidity or basicitynce and I will drop it but the truth is you can't because you don't know! You don't even know what I am talking about who are we kidding? I do not use advanced nutes but i am sure I use all kinds of nutes you will not find at the local pharmacy. I use cyco nutes with cyco coco coir, fyi. But just so you know advanced nutes is the only company in the world allowed to market their product for medical marijuana, I am guessing a guy of you ability and talent already knows that and why, right?

Most of the time peoples bull shit post don't bother me but you are truly a joke and have no idea what you are doing. You pass out advice like you are a pro and you are just a newbie yourself. You might be able to fool a few people but any real grower knows you are full of crap. I am not asking you to stop posting just stop posting bullshit. I will throw a picture of a 45 day old old G-13 still in veg and then another pic of the same plant in bloom at 90 days old. Show me one comparable picture and I will shut up. Until then you are officially called out.

this is a grow hoss

ehaz said:

this is a grow hoss

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Yes sir that is a grow now stop trolling my thread that helped some people and is good info. If I had thousands of disposable income I would set up my entire room in my house to grow but I don't so I can only afford one light for now

I am not bullshitting it is very easy to mix your own nutes with dry material and cost much less now go away unless you are going to say something constructive...

I am sorry man. I was not trying to be a dick just making the point that most people are not able to what you are doing succesfully. There are a lot of cheap nutes that are very effective like Ionic for example, it is a great product that is very easy to use for the beginner. It only cost about $30 a gallon. To be honest i think the type of nutes is one of the least important things when growing, proper PH balance and monitoring along with good ventalation are far more important than the brand of nutes. If everything else is right the plant will use the nutes properly and you get good results. Sometimes I wish I only had one light that would be more fun, and i forget that having fun doing this is what people are after, good smoke is just a bonus. I think somewhere along the way I lost the fun part and made it a job. Just a warning, do not do that. You are doing a great job of keeping it fun and interesting and I am trying to produce product for some pretty sick folks that use cannabis oil for medication. I am pretty stressed out over what started as a fun hobby and has turned into a huge commitment. I am sorry again and thanks for reminding me why people really do this..........because it is fun!

I do not smoke I purely grow for enjoyment. Also the reason why my first grow looks so mediocre is because it was grown for seed not weed. All the production went to the seeds and not the swelling of the buds. They flowered for 2 months and the thrichs never even turned cloudy because the plant was putting all it's energy into seed production.

I would like to get into making a few seeds myself, I have some great strains that I would like to cross but I don't feel like I have the knowledge to get it done right, I have never done the research. If you don't smoke and if you are able you should look into making Simpson oil out of your product. There are a lot of cancer patients that do not have the resources to make or get the oil and it really is a miracle drug. It will change the way you see that plant after it cures cancer or makes chemo a little more tolerable for someone who is really sick. I grow for medicine for 5 people, mostly oil but smoking can be medicinal as well. Keep doing what you are doing and have fun. If there is anything I can ever help you with please feel free to hit me up I am not always a jerk.

How do you make "simpson oil"

http://cannabisni.com/medicinal-cannabis-news/1194-how-to-make-hemp-oil-by-rick-simpson

I will let Rick Simpson tell you himself.

yeah everyone promoting to mix your own nutes with these cheap powders,lets SEE your results other then READING page after page of text,let the pics do the talking.

mak said:

yeah everyone promoting to mix your own nutes with these cheap powders,lets SEE your results other then READING page after page of text,let the pics do the talking.

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I kinda understand whre you are comming from, but What good is a pic Pics do not tell what it has been fed or the costs. A picture of a pound plant tells me nothing. I have talked with a few people who spend $30 to $40 per plant. The size is impressive but cost is not. Most of mine are limited to 1.5 oz. Certainly not impressive but nutes cost less than $1 per plant per grow. When the costs are low you can have fun and afford a few experiments. People spending a lot of money on plants are generally looking for profit and encounter many headaches when harvests do not meet expectations.

thats true though,the less you pay to
produce,the better profit...

Im not doubting what has been stated in here,
i just want to see it done before i try it myself.

before i just believe people on the internet id like to see
the process,if i was trying to make believers out of
people id let pics make believers.

because i do want to try cheaper ways then buying expensive nutes.

Then buy some organic soluble powders man......they are like 10 dollars.....and how can you be skeptic about powdered nitrogen not helping your plant......

Ok guys, Here is the math from my own personal grow. keep in mind I grow medical grade A+++ for cancer patients so my grow is very large. I can legally have 72 plants but I only have about 40-45 plants at this garden I keep the rest at a different location but here is the math per plant here. Keep in mind I normally get a large discount on my products because i buy in bulk. My pots are 18-20 gallon that cost me $36 to fill with Cyco coco, (2bags) I use Ionic for coco grow for veg and very little else, I grow I veg under LED and HO cfls for 45 days, day 46 they go into bloom and be switched to cyco nutes. From start to finish I will feed this plant at 2800ppm every 3 days on average, flushing the coco every couple weeks, I do not use the entire cyco line just 5 parts and I add northern lights week 3. At week 6 I stop nutes completely. It cost me about 300 to do 18 plants through 1 cycle so that is about $16- $20 per plant. That plant will yield 8oz to 1 lb depending on strain. Whole sale here that is $1600 to $3200 per plant. so 700 a month elcetric for 4 months is 2800+500ish for coco + 300ish for nutes that is $3600 total investment on a $14400 to $28,800 return. So I would only be making $1300 to $2900 per plant. before electric. I run 10 1000watt hps. That means I am making at minimum of a %700 profit........I think I can do it right without having to reinvent the wheel. If you are trying to grow 1 plant to smoke yourself then yeah whatever works for you but if you have a real set up it would never be worth it unless it proves to be better and it never will.

As already stated I do not have thousands to make a set up for my room, Like many many other growers they also don't have thousands and maybe only grow 1-12 plants at a time, which it will be cheaper to mix from raw material

i grow hydro , vertic set up , and i start mixing my own nutes after i purchase a book , and i purchase that book for that reason only , and let me tell u it is possible to mix ur own nutes and use them even on a comercial scale operation , as a matter of fact this book is about that subject lol , but like i sed i'm not no commercial grower , but making ur own plant food it's really easy and i doesn't matter what size of an operation u guys choose , in that book they even explain how to enhance a flavor of ur bud if u growing in hydro set up, lots of ppl r saying that when u grow in soil bud taste better , that's true in my opinion until i try this technique , my buddy's they couldn't see the difference at all , and plant food cost me nothing compare to what i was paying for a brand name nute's

the book title is ...
"Marijuana Mass Production Made Easy"
Average 2lbs of Bud or more
per 1000W light.
Blueprints and secrets to success
fully explained.

It's written by guys from B.C Bud , and food formula in there working for me and i'm sure that it would work for a lot of folks, but than again I'm hydro and u guys grow in soil , and that is hydro st up book

BigHulk said:

the book title is ...
"Marijuana Mass Production Made Easy"
Average 2lbs of Bud or more
per 1000W light.
Blueprints and secrets to success
fully explained.

It's written by guys from B.C Bud , and food formula in there working for me and i'm sure that it would work for a lot of folks, but than again I'm hydro and u guys grow in soil , and that is hydro st up book

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I grow In Soil, Soiless, and Hydro.....

jpeg666 said:

I do not smoke I purely grow for enjoyment. Also the reason why my first grow looks so mediocre is because it was grown for seed not weed. All the production went to the seeds and not the swelling of the buds. They flowered for 2 months and the thrichs never even turned cloudy because the plant was putting all it's energy into seed production.

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You did darned good for a first. Especially for a guy who doesn't even smoke!

ehaz said:

I would like to get into making a few seeds myself, I have some great strains that I would like to cross but I don't feel like I have the knowledge to get it done right, I have never done the research. If you don't smoke and if you are able you should look into making Simpson oil out of your product. There are a lot of cancer patients that do not have the resources to make or get the oil and it really is a miracle drug. It will change the way you see that plant after it cures cancer or makes chemo a little more tolerable for someone who is really sick. I grow for medicine for 5 people, mostly oil but smoking can be medicinal as well. Keep doing what you are doing and have fun. If there is anything I can ever help you with please feel free to hit me up I am not always a jerk.

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ehaz how did u end up from growing to making oil brother ? i'm just curious , i check the link what u throw here about oil making and that got me curious about the whole aspects of course that i heard it before but i actually never meet no one who was doing it.