1badmasonman
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Wow great info here guys. Thanks for the reply BBB. I have it sorted and i will run a new line for my 220. thanks
Experienced Electrician! Here to Answer Any and All Growroom Electrical Questions
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one11
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thanks mr.madcow. when it goes into investing into something, extra bucks go a long way. u'lll probably here more questions from me in the near future.
IAm5toned
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its funny how many people just dont get that simple statement...
everyone wants a lb in 2 weeks but no one wants to shell out the thousands it takes to get a setup capable of it.
Mister.Sinister
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I'm sure when bricktown started this thread, even he was aware how out of hand it would get. Of course there are many people on RIU with close or equivalent knowledge that would be more than glad to contribute. 5 star thread.
Mister.Sinister
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You bastard! I thought I had a bug infestation because of your signature LOL. Clever...
phatsexygirlz
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i gotta question if someone is still there, I'm helping my friend start up at grow room but his house is hella old and only has 2 pronged outlets, so we installed one of those adapters http://www.adorama.com/ZZAC32.html?sid=1265981739269149 but when we plug a ground tester in to it, it indicates it is an "open ground" he is just gonna be running one 1000 out of it so i assume its ok, what do you guys think, any danger?
IAm5toned
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it tests open ground because thats what is going on there....
is it safe? meh.... put it too you like this, it wouldnt pass an osha inspection, or any safety inspection for that matter.
will it work- sure.
ill give you a hint tho- see the little tab on the bottom of the plug adapter?
remove the screw that holds the plastic cover on the outlet.
plug in the plug adapter.
put the screw back in, passing it through the tab on the plug adapter.
if you still have an open ground after that, then you either have plastic boxes with no conduit inside your walls, or the outlets themselves are otherwise 'floating' above ground. (floating means ungrounded, but conductive)
is it safe? meh.... put it too you like this, it wouldnt pass an osha inspection, or any safety inspection for that matter.
will it work- sure.
ill give you a hint tho- see the little tab on the bottom of the plug adapter?
remove the screw that holds the plastic cover on the outlet.
plug in the plug adapter.
put the screw back in, passing it through the tab on the plug adapter.
if you still have an open ground after that, then you either have plastic boxes with no conduit inside your walls, or the outlets themselves are otherwise 'floating' above ground. (floating means ungrounded, but conductive)
IAm5toned
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black to black, red to red.Looking to wire 4-5 cpu case fans in parallel to a single dc supply. What do i need to do??? Any help would be appriciated....expecially with wiring diagrams
ignore the rest of the wires.
do not exceed the wattage of the power supply by adding too many motors, though i doubt you will do this, lol, it would take dozens of fans.
Gildo
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doesn't matter if they are 2,3 for wire? and can different fans be put together or do they need to be the same? Thanks for your speedy response!
IAm5toned
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lol rereadiong your original post i just realized you said single dc power supply... for some reason i thought you said single pc power supply. wandering inverted dyslexia i guess...
ok, well using a single dc power supply to run multiple fans can be done quite easily, but there some things you need to keep in mind-
1- do not exceed the rated wattage of the power supply. all power supplies will have the max wattage/amperage stamped on it somewhere.
2- do not accidentally reverse polarity when you hook up the fans. this means make sure positive is positive and negative is negative. on most of the power supplies that have cords, the white striped/marked wire is typically the positive. note i said most. ive seen quite a few where the opposite was true, and have burned them up before i learned to verify the polarity before i hooked stuff up to them.
3- make sure the output voltage of the power supply is the same as your fans. dont try to use a 3.5vdc power supply(like a typical cell phone charger) to run a 12vdc fan.
ok, well using a single dc power supply to run multiple fans can be done quite easily, but there some things you need to keep in mind-
1- do not exceed the rated wattage of the power supply. all power supplies will have the max wattage/amperage stamped on it somewhere.
2- do not accidentally reverse polarity when you hook up the fans. this means make sure positive is positive and negative is negative. on most of the power supplies that have cords, the white striped/marked wire is typically the positive. note i said most. ive seen quite a few where the opposite was true, and have burned them up before i learned to verify the polarity before i hooked stuff up to them.
3- make sure the output voltage of the power supply is the same as your fans. dont try to use a 3.5vdc power supply(like a typical cell phone charger) to run a 12vdc fan.
BigBudBalls
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*just* that statement?
People miss a LOT of the simple stuff. Case in point: customer buys a 1/2 - 1 million dollar machine, then tries to cheap out on crappy gas lines, regulators and gas. Seen it too many times.Do it right or stop ya bitching about the inferior results; is my take on things. (aka: garbage in garbage out. also weakest link syndrome)
I see you still answer the same Qs time after time. I gave up. A little search will result in *thousands* of posts about wiring up a PC fan.(I also, typically, stay out of posts where the guy is totally in over his head, just safer for all involved)
actionjacksonsdadsuncle
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i don't know which wire is the + or - cpu fan.
phatsexygirlz
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exactly! I screwed the ground ring in and its still read "Open Ground", i thought when you screwed that in that it meant it would be grounded but oh well, we'll figure something else out.. thanks for answering !
what does mater is that fan gets wired to a male plug to go directly to an outlet & not run to a dc powersupply
if you have an waterpipe nearby,you could run a wire from it to the metal ring on the adaptor but if the outlet is not grounded & in an old house,I would question the safety of the outlet to run any load through it.
IAm5toned
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dont even try that.... just dont.
you do not ever retrofit a coldwater ground after the fact.
cold water grounds must be terminated on the pipe 6' or less from the waterpipe's point of entry into the building strucutre, not randomly throughout the building.
if you did that and a short circuit condition occured, you could kill your neighbor or someone in your house using a sink or shower.
the reason being that it has to do with the direction or circuit path of the potential fault... there are simply too many variables to take into consideration there to take the chance of doing something like that... the circumstances of it happening are slim to none, i know that, but it has happened in the past so it is possible to happen again.
good catch!
I always thought the reason to ground within 6 feet of entry was to prevent the pipe from being disconnected and losing ground.either by being cut out of the system or having a section replace w/ pvc.
not to argue or dispute you but seeking knowledge, are you saying that the pipe could become energized and feed though the water to the drain(and anyone in its path)?
that makes sense & in that case,please admend my advice to running a wire to the breaker panel or water meter -altho I still question the ability to run a load on that outlet.