Examples of Democratic Party leadership

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Unlike Trump, Biden probably is availing himself of the medical help and his health is probably monitored closely and he follows the lifestyle advice of professionals. At that age it's a pretty individual thing and he could keep going until he's 90, if he is healthy now. The main thing is his administration and policies, he apparently is smart enough. Getting elected again with a democratic congress is the goal and if he gets that, he can really roll, his administration is not tired and without ideas, stagnant, quite the opposite.
Those Clorox enemas are bound to have adverse effects. Reports indicate they haven’t improved a certain someone’s odor.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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DIY-HP-LED

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Surprise! Joe is normal and says what many here do about Trump! Glad to hear it. :lol:


President Biden nearly used the 'f-word' to describe former President Trump during his speech at Valley Forge last month to mark the third anniversary of the Jan. 6 insurrection. But in private, Biden is not known for holding back, according to new Politico reporting. Jonathan Lemire discusses.
 

compassionateExotic

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Surprise! Joe is normal and says what many here do about Trump! Glad to hear it. :lol:


President Biden nearly used the 'f-word' to describe former President Trump during his speech at Valley Forge last month to mark the third anniversary of the Jan. 6 insurrection. But in private, Biden is not known for holding back, according to new Politico reporting. Jonathan Lemire discusses.
“Nearly “
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Surprise! Joe is normal and says what many here do about Trump! Glad to hear it. :lol:


President Biden nearly used the 'f-word' to describe former President Trump during his speech at Valley Forge last month to mark the third anniversary of the Jan. 6 insurrection. But in private, Biden is not known for holding back, according to new Politico reporting. Jonathan Lemire discusses.
There might be snow on the roof, but there’s fire in the furnace!
 

DIY-HP-LED

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There might be snow on the roof, but there’s fire in the furnace!
He might be old, but he gets shit done and has the proof, it's just another form of bigotry with statistics supporting it and refuses, like bigots, to take people as individuals and not as statistics. Some people live longer heather lives than others, that's just a fact and Joe is not showing signs of serious decline, Trump is though. Has anybody booed the Rolling Stones off stage for being too old? Governments get old and stale, we see it in parliamentary systems all the time, but Joe and the democrats don't fall into that category. They have ideas and want to implement them to make a difference in society and the economy, they want to make life better. Nobody who worked for Joe or with him says he is losing his marbles, and he has a lot of marbles to lose, unlike Trump who has few and they are running out of his ears..
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
He might be old, but he gets shit done and has the proof, it's just another form of bigotry with statistics supporting it and refuses, like bigots, to take people as individuals and not as statistics. Some people live longer heather lives than others, that's just a fact and Joe is not showing signs of serious decline, Trump is though. Has anybody booed the Rolling Stones off stage for being too old? Governments get old and stale, we see it in parliamentary systems all the time, but Joe and the democrats don't fall into that category. They have ideas and want to implement them to make a difference in society and the economy, they want to make life better. Nobody who worked for Joe or with him says he is losing his marbles, and he has a lot of marbles to lose, unlike Trump who has few and they are running out of his ears..
Not only is he doing a good job (despite his poor popularity ratings), but he showed passion and vitality in that vid that belie his numerical age. I’m not concerned about him going the distance til Jan ‘29, barring something sudden.

I don’t know Harris well at all, but I trust that Biden’s faith in her is well-placed. Goodness knows I’d choose her over any likely Republican.



The GOP has become an unholy blend of pro wrestling, a tent revival, and this.

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Blend, lightly sauté, and serve with a side of deep-fried* hate.

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*I am not drawing a bead on the culinary wonder that is hot deep fat.
 

Fogdog

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A very good summary of what happened in Oregon (Measure 113 68% of the vote, so a lot of Oregon Republicans had had enough obstruction too) and why the people of Oregon decided to put in place a reasonable process that allowed for protest but not to the point where the minority party could obstruct the work of the legislature.

 

Fogdog

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Ok, so, I'm not so complacent any more. All three of the myths they chose to debunk have kept me most cozy and warm despite the cold winds from forecasters saying the prospects of a second term for Joe Biden look bad. @Sativied is right.

FEB 20, 2024

Let’s start with strategists saying Biden’s polls are nothing to worry about.

President Joe Biden is in trouble in this November’s election. This does not mean he is guaranteed to lose, but defeat by a vengeful, unhinged Donald Trump and his radicalized Republican Party is a much more realistic possibility than many Democrats seem willing to accept. And if they are to rise out of the torpor of this dreadful situation, Democrats have to first stop telling each other comforting lies about what’s actually happening out there.

The myths they bust, all of which I have repeated in this forum:

1) Democrats have been outperforming polls in all kinds of elections since the Dobbs decision and will continue to do so.
2) Polls aren’t predictive this far from the election.
3) Trump’s lead will vanish once people realize that Trump will actually be the Republican nominee.


Ok, so, I have never said I believed number three. I simply stopped at 2. My point is, left leaning liberals aren't going to win the upcoming election all by themselves. We need right leaning liberals (liberal in the classic sense of support liberty) too.


Before posting the next link to a podcast, some context:

The Bulwark – Bias and Credibility
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About the Bulwark (from their site)

The Bulwark was founded in 2019 by Sarah Longwell, Charlie Sykes, and Bill Kristol. The idea, then and now, was to tell you what we think—with honesty and good faith.

To put country over party.
To know that we’re all in this together.
And to build a home for the politically homeless.


These are not my people. Politically, they are about where Joe Manchin resides. But they are allies in the same way that Elizabeth Cheney and Mitt Romney are allies.

I found this podcast from "Beg to Differ" by Mona Charon to help me get a sense of where the Biden campaign is probably headed. Biden may be past it in the sense that he's no longer at the top of his game. That said, based upon his performance Biden is a competent leader and has assembled a strong team around him. Even though the podcast linked below makes a case for dumping Biden, they recognize the strength of the team around Biden and state the obvious -- Joe Biden will be the Democratic Party's candidate as long as Joe Biden wants to be the candidate.

The podcast title is provocative because that's how journalists write headlines. And they do make a case for Democrats dumping Biden. That said, their podcast is a thought exercise, not a call to action.

Should Democrats Dump Biden?
by MONA CHAREN

FEBRUARY 16, 2024


At timestamp 18:47, a key Republican position regarding the President's ability to close the border is first presented, debunked and then the political aspects of this issue is discussed (for a few minutes). I found it interesting because they explain why Republicans are being mendacious in their truthy claims about presidential power. At 36:20, they pick the topic of immigration back up as it affects NATO and funding Ukraine. I don't know the guys name but he makes the point that international policy is led by domestic policy, not the other way around. And so, Border security, although in fact has noting to do with funding Ukraine, has everything to do with funding Ukraine.

This is all to say, Yes, today, Biden is in jeopardy of losing the election and yes, the mess at the border is affecting both the election and our ability to fund Ukraine. The speakers in the above podcast raise the idea that Biden will become more strict about immigration across the southern border AFTER the Democratic National Convention makes him the Democratic Party's nominee. He might turn rightward on other issues too. I think he's going to do so because he has a strong team around him who know how to beat Trump by attracting the votes of right leaning conservatives and independents. I'm not happy about this prospect but my vote has already been decided. Whatever Biden needs to do to keep those fascists out of office, I'm for.
 
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Sativied

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Excellent move.



I think highlighting Trump‘s crazy shit should have far less priority than reiterating over and over what Biden has accomplished and plans to do in a second term. Policy over person.
 
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