Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

[3rd Monkey]

Worth giving it a try . I do know when I ph in the am and after work it drifts to 6.4 or so . Will that cause a lock out ?

No. Drift is normal. As long as you stay below 6.8 or so,and drop it within a reasonable time, you won't have any issues. 5.5-6.5 is just optimal range.

 

[iceman2494]

Here's how I do it. Doesn't make it THE way, but it might help you take out the guesswork.

Start off with making a gallon of everything you are going to put in there. Calmag at 2ml. Micro at 2.5ml. Gro at 2.5ml. Bloom at 2.5ml.

Set your ph at 5.8 and check your ppm. That is your baseline of what your ppm is of every individual nute, so if you have a def, you'll know what to add and how much to get to whatever ppm. If you have a tox, you'll know what to back off and how much.

Do the same when you bump feed. Try to proportion them so you can just add them all together. The above would require 4 full gallons, so almost a five gallon bucket.

It's front loaded, but it saves you guesswork... And I hate guessing lol.

And that feed right there would be for later down the road feed ?

 

[GrowerAnonymous]

huh? Coco holds alot of water, and also takes awhile to evaporate, especially if there are no roots to suck it up. If you fill a container up with coco, water it, or soak it, like you guys do with it, and just let it sit there. even after several days, it will still hold alot of the water you put in. Then, press your fist into the coco, and see how much water comes out the bottom. Watering everyday is a waste, unless of course, your roots are sucking it up/and or your grow is extremely hot. But if its wet on top, its wet through the pot. the benefit of coco is like you said, aeration, but if your constantly soaking it, its not getting the aeration benefit. The O2 in the water you put in, is very very quickly depleted, and then the roots utilize the air pockets in the coco, but if they are constantly soaked, your not getting the best of both worlds with coco. Coco is fibrous, and holds your nutes very well also, so who ever started the myth of coco just reflects nutes, is just that, a myth.

take Neil for instance, his plants grow big, but i personally think they ALWAYS look like shit, because he is destroying the root fibers by keeping them constantly water logged. He just nutes the shit out of them constantly.

and a tip with the recharge, once a week, dont PH your water with PH down. If your PH is above 7, add 1 tsp per half gallon of water of molasses, to get the PH down to around 5.5, then add recharge, which take s your PH back up to around 8. The bennies will level out your PH in a couple hours, and all will be ok.

Coco/perlite does not hold well. Not feeding daily in coco means you get pissy plants. I kno so, ive done it, got the tshirt buddy.

 

[iceman2494]

My roots on the bh are weak looking and stringy . The sh has way better roots . Still starting to see some yellowing on my new set of leaves .

 

[3rd Monkey]

And that feed right there would be for later down the road feed ?

Those are starting veg measurements, except calmag. The calmag is so you know your ppm now, if you want to add to your bucket.

I don't use calmagic, so I don't know what measurement gets you where, just a ballpark.

 

[3rd Monkey]

My roots on the bh are weak looking and stringy . The sh has way better roots . Still starting to see some yellowing on my new set of leaves .

Put up some pics when you can.

 

[iceman2494]

Sorry I’m still fried from last night . So I add all that to a gallon. Do I add the cal magic or no? After all mixed I drop a little in till I get to desired ppm which is ?do I also add silica blast ?

 

[Moabfighter]

Welp. Cut all my budding plants down. Only had 4 left and they were about where they needed to be. Was getting a few aphids so fuck it I’ll cut them now and spray some bug spray around and hit them hard with a fan in the dark tent and let them dry.

Have one very ugly deez nugs plant that I’m going to just use for dabs.


Is there any more safety in knowing I only have 5 tiny sprouts now....?

 

[3rd Monkey]

Sorry I’m still fried from last night . So I add all that to a gallon. Do I add the cal magic or no? After all mixed I drop a little in till I get to desired ppm which is ?do I also add silica blast ?

Lol. Mix up a gallon of micro, a separate gallon of gro, a separate gallon of bloom, and a separate gallon of calmag. Take readings of each individual one. Write it down and tape it to the side of your tent as a reference.

If you like the ppm of them and want to use them now, combined them all together, check ppm. If it's to high, top the last gallon or so off with plain water. Still to high, take some out and add plain water til you hit the ppm you want. You can always cut your ppm with plain water, no matter what... Ratios that were in there before the cut, stay there after the cut. Only ppm count gets effected.

If it needs more, you now have the numbers to give you a close estimate on how much to add to achieve what ppm up to 2.5ml.

Make sense?

 

[iceman2494]

Yes and no . I’d probably go 1 ml to 1 gal of water . I’m not sure what the desired ppm should be at this stage of growth. Shouldn’t I be using all together? And silica blast is just bennies so I can’t hurt much with that right ? Maybe I should have some more research before I started this .

 

[Moabfighter]

Lol. Mix up a gallon of micro, a separate gallon of gro, a separate gallon of bloom, and a separate gallon of calmag. Take readings of each individual one. Write it down and tape it to the side of your tent as a reference.

If you like the ppm of them and want to use them now, combined them all together, check ppm. If it's to high, top the last gallon or so off with plain water. Still to high, take some out and add plain water til you hit the ppm you want. You can always cut your ppm with plain water, no matter what... Ratios that were in there before the cut, stay there after the cut. Only ppm count gets effected.

If it needs more, you now have the numbers to give you a close estimate on how much to add to achieve what ppm up to 2.5ml.

Make sense?

Bet your ass that got screenshotted.

 

[3rd Monkey]

Yes and no . I’d probably go 1 ml to 1 gal of water . I’m not sure what the desired ppm should be at this stage of growth. Shouldn’t I be using all together? And silica blast is just bennies so I can’t hurt much with that right ? Maybe I should have some more research before I started this .

At this stage, between 100-200ppm OF NUTES is a good target. I usually add around 100ppm (no more) of calmag on day one.

You can do 1 ml to a gallon, but you're going to be going up in feed soon, so it makes more sense to do 2.5. If you want to do 1ml a gallon to get the hang of it, that'll do too.

You will put it all together, this is just so you know how much ppm of N, or P, or K you are adding separately. So, if she's lacking N, you can bump up N without bumping up everything and potentially causing problems.

Silica blast, never used. I'm assuming it's got potassium silicate like the rest, so it'll have a dose of K in it. I dunno about the microbes.

 

[Moabfighter]

At this stage, between 100-200ppm OF NUTES is a good target. I usually add around 100ppm (no more) of calmag on day one.

You can do 1 ml to a gallon, but you're going to be going up in feed soon, so it makes more sense to do 2.5. If you want to do 1ml a gallon to get the hang of it, that'll do too.

You will put it all together, this is just so you know how much ppm of N, or P, or K you are adding separately. So, if she's lacking N, you can bump up N without bumping up everything and potentially causing problems.

Silica blast, never used. I'm assuming it's got potassium silicate like the rest, so it'll have a dose of K in it. I dunno about the microbes.

How about for me man. I’m just using the botanicare veg pro nute. I made up a gallon earlier at 5ml (15ML is week one dose) and PHd it. It was 140ppm if I’m not mistaken.

 

[3rd Monkey]

Since we are always talking about microbes and root zones, I wanted to show you this. This is what beneficial microbes, bacteria, and fungi are supposed to do.

Here's the healthy clone.



Here's what's down below. I have this piece of shit iPod, but I hope you can see the layer of clear slime. That layer is what coats roots to prevent bacterial infections, buffers ph so it's less important (still important), helps roots feed easier, etc.

 

[3rd Monkey]

How about for me man. I’m just using the botanicare veg pro nute. I made up a gallon earlier at 5ml (15ML is week one dose) and PHd it. It was 140ppm if I’m not mistaken.

You should go a little easier, it's healing up. Maybe 75-100 would be a better target til you get some new growth, then step it up.

 

[Moabfighter]

You should go a little easier, it's healing up. Maybe 75-100 would be a better target til you get some new growth, then step it up.

Yeah man I’m not giving it any nutes until I get more growth like or gro said. But I did feed that gallon to my soil plants and they seem fine

 

[3rd Monkey]

Yeah man I’m not giving it any nutes until I get more growth like or gro said. But I did feed that gallon to my soil plants and they seem fine

Soil buffers.

 

[Soil2Coco]

Sorry guys. I’ve been sick this passed week. Dropped my phone in puke and lost my email info as well as login for RIU. Well I’m back and banana hammock in soil is alive and ready to start growing. My hydro shop closed up unexpectedly and I can’t find Tupur anywhere so I may be making the switch to Promix

Here’s the flower room. I think the stretch is just about done



Some pics from the day they went into flower

 

[Smokexbreak]

Welp. Cut all my budding plants down. Only had 4 left and they were about where they needed to be. Was getting a few aphids so fuck it I’ll cut them now and spray some bug spray around and hit them hard with a fan in the dark tent and let them dry.

Have one very ugly deez nugs plant that I’m going to just use for dabs.


Is there any more safety in knowing I only have 5 tiny sprouts now....?

Not if you have aphids. Or any pest for that matter.

I’m cutting my deez nugs around day 70-75 gotta get them wrapped up before this shit gets outta hand.

Did stack up nicely after all Was said and done we will see how the next two weeks go.

 

[Moabfighter]

Not if you have aphids. Or any pest for that matter.

I’m cutting my deez nugs around day 70-75 gotta get them wrapped up before this shit gets outta hand.

Did stack up nicely after all Was said and done we will see how the next two weeks go.

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For an auto, was it worth your effort? Looks great man.