Ethos Banana Hammock comparative(exodus thread)

Smokexbreak

Smokexbreak

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Moabfighter said:
I know you’re doing coco and it’s doffeent blah blah.

My soil autos with 25% perlite are terrible. My autos with 50/50 perlite, perform well. Something with the aeration/compaction of the roots or lack there of I guess. I personally wish you had a bunch of perlite in your substrate but that’s just my opinion and I could be wrong.
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Coco is wayyyy different than soil. I mean way different.

My Moab’s deez nuggs are in 70/30 coco to perlite. And I have to water daily.
 
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bigggsteve89 said:
So the coco isnt really necessary?
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Not in hempys. But honestly cocos more forgiving I’m finding out. My hempys right now are acting like hoes. Shits ridiculous. I’m flushing in the AM and refilling my reservoirs. But with coco there’s no guessing what’s going on in the reservoir. What goes in should be what comes out and what comes out is what it is. It’s literally the same shit but I can go a few more days without worrying about watering in coco there’s not really that option. I’m debating going to coco because it negates the reservoir guess work.
 
Moabfighter

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bigggsteve89 said:
Mine are in the same 70/30 and im watering daily as well
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Please don’t take this bad man I could be wrong on my measures. I may be 70/30 perlite soil.

I prefer a lot of perlite. The soil is kind of just there imo to hang onto a little of the food and kinda keep the roots in place. Whatever it needs I give it via nutrients. What’s under the stalk, to me, is there solely to hold the roots. Provide best home for roots. A lot of oxygen. A lot of aeration. Given by a lot of perlite. Seems to be a winner.
 
bigggsteve89

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Moabfighter said:
Please don’t take this bad man I could be wrong on my measures. I may be 70/30 perlite soil.

I prefer a lot of perlite. The soil is kind of just there imo to hang onto a little of the food and kinda keep the roots in place. Whatever it needs I give it via nutrients. What’s under the stalk, to me, is there solely to hold the roots. Provide best home for roots. A lot of oxygen. A lot of aeration. Given by a lot of perlite. Seems to be a winner.
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Im down to give it a try man!
 
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Moabfighter said:
Please don’t take this bad man I could be wrong on my measures. I may be 70/30 perlite soil.

I prefer a lot of perlite. The soil is kind of just there imo to hang onto a little of the food and kinda keep the roots in place. Whatever it needs I give it via nutrients. What’s under the stalk, to me, is there solely to hold the roots. Provide best home for roots. A lot of oxygen. A lot of aeration. Given by a lot of perlite. Seems to be a winner.
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Soil isn’t inert though it holds a positive charge and when you dump nutrients into soil the negative ions link onto the positive charge in the soil and then your microbiology in you’re soil(microbes) uses those nutrients and then provide it to the plant in a way it can take up the nutes. Your nutrients aren’t immediately available to your plant in soil the way it is coco. It hasn’t to go through the microbe herds first. That’s why beneficial microbes like recharge, hydroguard, and mammoth P have such an effect is because your dumping millions of microbes to do work.



Coco doesn’t hold onto nutrients near the same that’s why it’s watered and fed daily. EVERY day is feeding time for coco. It’s just different. Lots of perlite either way but coco you don’t even need perlite and it still will work sufficiently. However coco with perlite is almost impossible to over water.
 
Soil2Coco

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Smokexbreak said:
However I’ve seen S2C with damn near 50/50 coco to perlite. Soooo yeah lol
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I use Royal Gold Tupur exclusively. It’s probaly 30% Perlite. I like it because it drains like its 50/50, allowing me to multifeed in flower. But it also provides an ideal environment for microbes which enhance terpenes. I use Recharge once a month and started using photosynthesis plus in veg
 
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Soil2Coco said:
I use Royal Gold Tupur exclusively. It’s probaly 30% Perlite. I like it because it drains like its 50/50, allowing me to multifeed in flower. But it also provides an ideal environment for microbes which enhance terpenes. I use Recharge once a month and started using photosynthesis plus in veg
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I love recharge. I use it in my hempys too. I’d use it in just about any medium honestly. Man I know it’s expensive but mammoth p i the shit too. I’m all about bennies
 
Moabfighter

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Smokexbreak said:
Soil isn’t inert though it holds a positive charge and when you dump nutrients into soil the negative ions link onto the positive charge in the soil and then your microbiology in you’re soil(microbes) uses those nutrients and then provide it to the plant in a way it can take up the nutes. Your nutrients aren’t immediately available to your plant in soil the way it is coco. It hasn’t to go through the microbe herds first. That’s why beneficial microbes like recharge, hydroguard, and mammoth P have such an effect is because your dumping millions of microbes to do work.



Coco doesn’t hold onto nutrients near the same that’s why it’s watered and fed daily. EVERY day is feeding time for coco. It’s just different. Lots of perlite either way but coco you don’t even need perlite and it still will work sufficiently. However coco with perlite is almost impossible to over water.
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Good information there I was talking out my ass
 
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Moabfighter said:
Good information there I was talking out my ass
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lol man I feel the perlite though!! Shits essential. Coco’s just another beast on its own. Shits fucking awesome man. Your deez nuggs are fucking loving it. It’s simple just gotta feed daily which sucks ass. But I really like the coco. I’m debating moving to it entirely and getting out of the hempys after this grow. If the DWC works well I’m going to run coco in the back of my tent and DWC up front that way the hard to reach plants are on automated waterings so I don’t have to get in there and dick with them much. And the only plant I gotta fuck with are in the front.
 
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@Soil2Coco so I’m gonna run a photo period coco run. I’m gonna get more
Airpots but I find the 2 gallons to be too small in circumference to really train out an Bush a plant out. I’m really wanting to mainline it you think 3gallon air pots would be over kill?
 
JonathanT

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Was a giveaway on cheflife420 YouTube channel. A few 3 gallon ez pots, 10 recharge packets, some humidity packs, bud bread, power strip, ratchet hangers, papers, pipe and tons of seeds. Are we allowed to swap here i wonder?
 
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