Epic 4x4 Flowering Smackdown : 96 Elites vs 288s
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Or_Gro
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Day 29 from cloner: Recovering from a couple major probs yesterday.
While changing out 96s that had failed row of diodes (reported this earlier in 96 thread), one of my rails fell and snapped off a main on one of the Jack Herer’s. Cleaned up the wound, pulled other main into position, topped it, have some catching up to do, w a trick or 2 up my sleeve should be able to recover by 12:12.
Early yesterday noticed some clawing, which was happening under uvb, but seems to be nute and low rh related, as well. Clawing progressed rapidly during day, so by afternoon i changed out a gal of nutesoup for water, lowering ec 25%. All plants have sugnif recovered, but the really finnicky green crack plants still need another dilution.
While changing out 96s that had failed row of diodes (reported this earlier in 96 thread), one of my rails fell and snapped off a main on one of the Jack Herer’s. Cleaned up the wound, pulled other main into position, topped it, have some catching up to do, w a trick or 2 up my sleeve should be able to recover by 12:12.
Early yesterday noticed some clawing, which was happening under uvb, but seems to be nute and low rh related, as well. Clawing progressed rapidly during day, so by afternoon i changed out a gal of nutesoup for water, lowering ec 25%. All plants have sugnif recovered, but the really finnicky green crack plants still need another dilution.
Brock_Fawkin_Samson
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I currently use reptile bulbs which barely get into UVB (on all the time) but think I am switching to the agromax bulbs. Ill be watching your thread but if you're asking, would begin my dosage (unless determinate data was provided) measured in μmol/m2/s of UVB correlating to any measurements available of the suns relative intensity (and corresponding UVB intensity) at the location to the species I'm growing. Like in the distribution you posted, there were different UVB readings at different parts of the year, I'd use the max level during summer or June and start there. Is MJ native to the UK?
I didn't mean to come off as a know it all and am enjoying your grow/test!
With respect I disagree about mimicking the sun, but I have no clue! IMO, the plant that we know has been naturally selected to produce the best under the suns conditions and its native environment. We add WV to LED because we found plants have evolved to like certain WV, due to what the sun produces.
I do see your point though, that you're not looking to reproduce the sun, rather measure and test to figure what's best or optimal, not attempt to make an artificial sun. I'm completely on board and am excited to see what you find.
Idk randomblame and am a new member so not familiar with all the history and testing and who did it but am enjoying the site so far. Ill be watching 
Or_Gro
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Diode limitations and wise use of resources require picking and choosing what is best benefit vs costs...I currently use reptile bulbs which barely get into UVB (on all the time) but think I am switching to the agromax bulbs. Ill be watching your thread but if you're asking, would begin my dosage (unless determinate data was provided) measured in μmol/m2/s of UVB correlating to any measurements available of the suns relative intensity (and corresponding UVB intensity) at the location to the species I'm growing. Like in the distribution you posted, there were different UVB readings at different parts of the year, I'd use the max level during summer or June and start there. Is MJ native to the UK?
I didn't mean to come off as a know it all and am enjoying your grow/test!
With respect I disagree about mimicking the sun, but I have no clue! IMO, the plant that we know has been naturally selected to produce the best under the suns conditions and its native environment. We add WV to LED because we found plants have evolved to like certain WV, due to what the sun produces.
I do see your point though, that you're not looking to reproduce the sun, rather measure and test to figure what's best or optimal, not attempt to make an artificial sun. I'm completely on board and am excited to see what you find.
Random blame is a master grower and all around tecnical expert on rollitup, you can take what he says to the bank.
Got some grow pics? feel free to post here, i like a free wheeling growthread...my grasscity thread for this grow (which technically doesn’t start until 12:12) already has over 1500 posts.
Brock_Fawkin_Samson
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I dont post pics
although perhaps my paranoia will subside one day lol. I live in a medical state but was reluctant to even make an account (and now I'm addicted!) lolIll keep that in mind about sir randomblame
mr. childs
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that was the thought at the time. the uvb to build the resistance one week, then follow it up with the deep red to help the swell, it wasnt that hard using only one 2ft bulb in the middle hung high in the 4x4. now i have changed to using the uvb weekly, kind of alternating it in veg with the blue agro bulb 6400k.
Or_Gro
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Day 30 from cloner: The princesses are a little pouty today, after having to visit the beauty parlor...got their bangs clipped back a pair of laterals and fans...also swapped out another gal of nutesoup for water...and dropped ppfd to ~550 for a little stress relief...in prep for final topping in next day or two...then final training and race to 12:12...
Brock_Fawkin_Samson
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Good work, that's a lot of time and effort, respect. Plants look good, they looked good before, but much better now.
Or_Gro
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You know it! Takes time, concentration, and a plan...i like doin it and it has big bennies...Good work, that's a lot of time and effort, respect. Plants look good, they looked good before, but much better now.
5th major stripping on these...amazing lights, these 96 elites...but hopefully this is the last big defol...
Or_Gro
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Camera doesn’t do it, but better than nuthin...
They are all budsite...had to clear out the basal fans to get photons right down in their bizness...
Counterclockwise from bottom left:
Or_Gro
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Stars forming in the trainwreck nebula....16 days from 12:12....
(Trainwreck upper right, clockwise from there: green crack, original glue, jack herer)
