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I just try to provide optimal conditions for temp, light, and made sure the genetics were bomb too. Shout out to cali connections regular seeds. Cant wait to see these colas!

Much appreciated yktind!

Funkyfreshh305 said:

I'm very interested in scrog. A little hesitant since I'm familiar with dwc and want to continue this method. Any help with dwc scrogs? Links? Advice? Growing in a closet with 600 watt dimmable ballast set at 50% because of heat.

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Ive done it. You will need to set up a way to do water changes because once that plant is tied into the screen, its not moving much. I did this on my 8 site rDWC so I didnt really need to lift the bucket lids much other than to peek at the roots.

If youre already having to dim your 600 bc of heat, imo, hydro is not the best fit for your environment.

Day 21 critical kush 1600w

She's pumping up

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^^^ very nice dr frank
Hi guys, im soon going to be attempting my first scrog. I'm only going to be doing one plant as a learning curve at first.
My Q...is a 2x2 screen enough or is that to small? And if it is to small can I increase the size by doing a curved scrog?
Thanks guys

Closetgardner said:

My Q...is a 2x2 screen enough or is that to small? And if it is to small can I increase the size by doing a curved scrog?

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This is really dependent on your space available and how big of a light you run. A 2x2 screen can be just right as long as your plant is the appropriate size and veg'ed the correct amount of time. Or your plant can massively overgrow it. Its really strain dependent, but generally plants will almost double in size going to flower.

Ibex said:

This is really dependent on your space available and how big of a light you run. A 2x2 screen can be just right as long as your plant is the appropriate size and veg'ed the correct amount of time. Or your plant can massively overgrow it. Its really strain dependent, but generally plants will almost double in size going to flower.

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The grow space is 3x3 with about 8ft height. Im going to be using ch9 seeds pow33 x critical mass33. Im vegging with a 250w blue cfl. For flower im undecided on 400w hps (air cooled) or 2x 300w cfls.
So what veg time would you recommend?
I'll train for as many tops as possible before putting the screen in place. Then continue to train using the screen. Does this sound like im on the right track?
Thanks

Closetgardner said:

The grow space is 3x3 with about 8ft height. Im going to be using ch9 seeds pow33 x critical mass33. Im vegging with a 250w blue cfl. For flower im undecided on 400w hps (air cooled) or 2x 300w cfls.
So what veg time would you recommend?
I'll train for as many tops as possible before putting the screen in place. Then continue to train using the screen. Does this sound like im on the right track?
Thanks

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That is enough height to work with the 400 HPS. Absolutely better choice than the cfls, assuming you can control your temps. HID's get hot. Move your ballast out of your grow room if possible. Keep all wires off the floor, electricity and water dont mix very well, atleast in your favor

Veg time is going to be dependent on many factors unique to your room. The cfls will give you a slower veg speed and thus require more time than say a MH. Digital ballasts can power both bulbs. Some magnetics can as well. If youre starting from seed then youre going to be veg'in for atleast 3 weeks. I go even longer when I am starting from clones, but our gardens are different. Next cycle run clones if you can. Cuts veg time down and you know exactly what youre in for stretch, yield, even color traits, which most of these things influence your question about veg time. If I was growing my sativa in your scenario, its veg and screen fill time is very different than my kush indica.

Yeah thats the right track. Its really whatever works for you. I top my plants in veg without a screen and then they get moved into a flower room and tied into a screen using plant velcro. Really cheap and really convenient.

Youre welcome

Edit: Some ballasts can power both MH and HPS if that was unclear.

Ibex said:

That is enough height to work with the 400 HPS. Absolutely better choice than the cfls, assuming you can control your temps. HID's get hot. Move your ballast out of your grow room if possible. Keep all wires off the floor, electricity and water dont mix very well, atleast in your favor

Veg time is going to be dependent on many factors unique to your room. The cfls will give you a slower veg speed and thus require more time than say a MH. Digital ballasts can power both bulbs. Some magnetics can as well. If youre starting from seed then youre going to be veg'in for atleast 3 weeks. I go even longer when I am starting from clones, but our gardens are different. Next cycle run clones if you can. Cuts veg time down and you know exactly what youre in for stretch, yield, even color traits, which most of these things influence your question about veg time. If I was growing my sativa in your scenario, its veg and screen fill time is very different than my kush indica.

Yeah thats the right track. Its really whatever works for you. I top my plants in veg without a screen and then they get moved into a flower room and tied into a screen using plant velcro. Really cheap and really convenient.

Youre welcome

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Thanks a lot ibex mate
this will be my first scrog(like u cant already tell lol) so I'd like to get it right the first time, well as right as I can so next time is easier.
Ive always lst'd my gals, I dont think ive let one grow natural.
Im just getting back into the game after over a year out. I got busted and the wife wasn't to keen on letting me do it again. But ive got a place to get a couple of plants going and cant wait to get my teeth back into it. Thanks again man. No doubt I'll be back through out the next few months for u guys help

woodsmantoker said:

Appologies FMILY, if my comment came off abrasive and contrary. Not intentional.

Organic comes with life!, the catapiller nah, the butterfly can stay. And the lady bugs. And the baby mantis. The python... (I don't do cats ) were good, roll on.

Woodsmantoker~

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Do you hatch your own Prey Mantis? Its a lot of fun and becomes a battle royal of who eats who to survive! lol

DrFrankenstien said:

Day 21 critical kush 1600w

She's pumping up

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Looking really nice and packed! Nice job maximizing your grow space!

Peace
FM

Ibex said:

Ive done it. You will need to set up a way to do water changes because once that plant is tied into the screen, its not moving much. I did this on my 8 site rDWC so I didnt really need to lift the bucket lids much other than to peek at the roots.

If youre already having to dim your 600 bc of heat, imo, hydro is not the best fit for your environment.

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I was considering building a net attached to the lids but I feel like it would hurt my yield over a standstill screen. What is your opinion? Thinking about using a Gatorade cooler for easy changing. Sounds like it could work?

Hello everybody!
I've been reading the post, but I'm still in page 30 or so. Lots of useful info. After reading so much here and there this method has become my favorite one.
My girls are a pair of Kalashnikova from GHS. I had some problems at the beginning with rootbounding but I transplanted to a 30 liters container and they loved it. I'm growing with two Dragon Plus LEd panels in a 0.5m2 room. The substrate is All mix. Still vegging.
Today I finished building a screen and placed it on top of my plants. However, in this moment Im kind of lost. What should I do now? Any advice, comments or appreciations are welcomed. I'll leave u some pics with lights on/off.

enzofilo said:

Hello everybody!
I've been reading the post, but I'm still in page 30 or so. Lots of useful info. After reading so much here and there this method has become my favorite one.
My girls are a pair of Kalashnikova from GHS. I had some problems at the beginning with rootbounding but I transplanted to a 30 liters container and they loved it. I'm growing with two Dragon Plus LEd panels in a 0.5m2 room. The substrate is All mix. Still vegging.
Today I finished building a screen and placed it on top of my plants. However, in this moment Im kind of lost. What should I do now? Any advice, comments or appreciations are welcomed. I'll leave u some pics with lights on/off.

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When they start growing out of the screen, tuck them back under and spread them out, just keep in mind how much does your plant stretch in the first 3 weeks. That will determine how much tucking you want to do. Also I have no knowledge of how LEDs are in regards to stretching. Knowing what your strain does does help when SCRoG'n. Looks good man! Keep us posted, you are doing fine!

Peace
FM

Thanks F.M.I.L.Y, I needed to read that I'm on the right path
"Flowering time is 8 weeks and the structure is very branchy. The Kalashnikova performs very well both indoors and outdoors, branches out very well" it says on the GHS site.

enzofilo said:

Thanks F.M.I.L.Y, I needed to read that I'm on the right path
"Flowering time is 8 weeks and the structure is very branchy. The Kalashnikova performs very well both indoors and outdoors, branches out very well" it says on the GHS site.

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You r on the right path bro, now I never grew with LEDs so I dont know if it will make a difference when its stretching time.

Heres an update on the 3'x3'x5.5' Tent SCROG:

Here's another update of the 8'x8'x6.5' Tent 1000w HPS SCROG: I feel like they are a little behind compare to other growers around this week.... :/ maybe because its just flowering under a 1000w instead of a 2000w... anyways just a little paranoid, other then that everything is healthy and green



Here are some close up:

They all look great and frosty!!! I would agree with you on needing 2K in the 8x8.

If you can't swing the heat a light mover would allow you to get the light closer, but mounting in a tent might be difficult... Ive used a mover my last few grows up until my current scrog

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At day 19 on my 4 plant scrog. 2 gal hempy's with individual screens. 250w HPS with 2 Kessil 150's. Delicious $eeds Black Russian, Dinafem Crit+, Big Buddha Cheese and Trainwreck from clone.