Edward Snowden is an freedom fighter exposing crimes against America's Constitution

ttystikk

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So intellectually dishonest. But I guess it makes you feel better about not bothering to vote in the primary yourself. Yeah, that was your choice... cough cough.
Yet factually correct. It shows just how bad a candidate Mrs Clinton was. She's corrupt to the core and enough Americans knew it that they actually went on record saying that they voted for Trump as the LESSER corporate candidate.

I know how you hate the truth. Most people do.
 

Budley Doright

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I'm not Alex Jones. I claim no special access. The Deep State has been defined as the collective will of those who would operate the machine of government in their own self interest, much of which is not secret.

It doesn't have to be secret not to get mentioned on the Rachel Maddow show; it just has to be inconvenient to those buying the commercials.
deep state
noun
  1. a body of people, typically influential members of government agencies or the military, believed to be involved in the secret manipulation or control of government policy.
    "the deep state and its policy of allowing extremist ideologies to flourish may be the actual issues of concern". Come on tty, own it for what it was meant to convey. You were implying you have/had access to secrets. And yes you have turned it into spin. Sounding more like MMG thread now, you can do better.
 

ttystikk

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deep state
noun
  1. a body of people, typically influential members of government agencies or the military, believed to be involved in the secret manipulation or control of government policy.
    "the deep state and its policy of allowing extremist ideologies to flourish may be the actual issues of concern". Come on tty, own it for what it was meant to convey. You were implying you have/had access to secrets. And yes you have turned it into spin. Sounding more like MMG thread now, you can do better.
I said nor implied any such thing.

There's an enormous difference between classified material and information that simply isn't widely disseminated for a myriad of reasons.

You're trying to call me a kook and raising a strawman argument to do it.

The some fact is that I've made a lifelong habit of asking the very best questions I can of people who are in a position to know what they're talking about. In another era this was a classic tactic of investigative journalism or even private investigatory work, depending on the nature of the client. What I find peculiar here is that not only have people seem to have forgotten what it is, but suddenly suspect it if it doesn't come as Received Truth from some television talking head.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
I said nor implied any such thing.

There's an enormous difference between classified material and information that simply isn't widely disseminated for a myriad of reasons.

You're trying to call me a kook and raising a strawman argument to do it.

The some fact is that I've made a lifelong habit of asking the very best questions I can of people who are in a position to know what they're talking about. In another era this was a classic tactic of investigative journalism or even private investigatory work, depending on the nature of the client. What I find peculiar here is that not only have people seem to have forgotten what it is, but suddenly suspect it if it doesn't come as Received Truth from some television talking head.
Oh my lol. You most certainly did imply that you have access to state secrets and have said as much more than a few times, keep spinning. Investigative reporters do not sit behind a computer screen and post articles they’ve found on a pot forum, you have now made a mockery of that profession, the same as you have the commercial grow op consultancy you profess to be a part of, that one really makes me giggle.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
I said nor implied any such thing.

There's an enormous difference between classified material and information that simply isn't widely disseminated for a myriad of reasons.

You're trying to call me a kook and raising a strawman argument to do it.

The some fact is that I've made a lifelong habit of asking the very best questions I can of people who are in a position to know what they're talking about. In another era this was a classic tactic of investigative journalism or even private investigatory work, depending on the nature of the client. What I find peculiar here is that not only have people seem to have forgotten what it is, but suddenly suspect it if it doesn't come as Received Truth from some television talking head.
There it is “the straw man” rebuttal, I was wondering when that would pop up. I find that comes up mostly when the questions get hard. Again, I was hoping for better with my morning coffee. Well it’s off to work, gotta go.
 
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