Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

burrr

Active Member
Irish, I'm going the other route and running with just the bloom nutes. I'll add some cal mag for my nitrogen boost, its calcium nitrate and magnesium nitrate. I'm also trying to skip out on the mag-pro by adding a dash of epsom salt to the rez. From reading up on one part nutes, they are often a little lacking in sulfur. They have to keep levels low to prevent it from combining with the calcium while in concentrate.
 

irishboy

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Irish, I'm going the other route and running with just the bloom nutes. I'll add some cal mag for my nitrogen boost, its calcium nitrate and magnesium nitrate. I'm also trying to skip out on the mag-pro by adding a dash of epsom salt to the rez. From reading up on one part nutes, they are often a little lacking in sulfur. They have to keep levels low to prevent it from combining with the calcium while in concentrate.
ive went that route with other nutes kinda like the Lucas form and it did great for me. i dont really think the mag is needed for its NPK but the micro are nice in it and help with quality IMO. but i rather use some gunao teas with casting and kelp. i got crazy quality with that and DG my lat grow. we will put our data together and see what we come up with bro, testing things out is how we find out. i really want to see the hydrozime in action ive heard nothing but great things from lots of growers and very trusted growers.cheap VF-11 nutes use with Hydrozyme in 85F temps
 

irishboy

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heres a branch i grew in 110F temps indoors with also real high N nutes cost me $10 and all i did was mix in my soil and just feed water. this is why i am going back to high N and the DG grow is not even as close as i had on that grow. these are just a few branches.

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burrr

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heres a branch i grew in 110F temps indoors with also real high N nutes cost me $10 and all i did was mix in my soil and just feed water. this is why i am going back to high N and the DG grow is not even as close as i had on that grow. these are just a few branches.


those are some great looking buds! did you have 110 temps all the way through? what were the low temps and humidity?

I did a round of durban poison with bloom and proteck only, and had great results. I'm reading from this that Nitrogen levels can vary greatly, and still work fine, as long as there is enough and not too much. There are lots of different sources of nitrogen, and I've heard that calcium nitrate is the most DWC friendly.
 

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irishboy

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those are some great looking buds! did you have 110 temps all the way through? what were the low temps and humidity?

I did a round of durban poison with bloom and proteck only, and had great results. I'm reading from this that Nitrogen levels can vary greatly, and still work fine, as long as there is enough and not too much. There are lots of different sources of nitrogen, and I've heard that calcium nitrate is the most DWC friendly.
i think the coolest was 98F in that grow? it was 100F+ most time and that was threw the while grow. RH% was like 12-15% i found out the trick also this last grow to growing in high temps. 1st is i use leds so i have no radiant heat burning my plants, 2nd the key is to run ur lights on the hotter parts of the day so ur lights off has atleast a 5-10F diff. i use to run at nights and it would mess with the plants then i thought i was just going agianst mother nature and keep my light times like heres and it worked great.

their are allot of N types and some will burn ur roots,l another good thing about DG.lol they use good N
 

Trichy Bastard

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this is what i am using from start to finish on my next grow. dont think the bloom is needed and the veg will do great all the way threw, the CEO of DG even told me this back in the day and said they only made the bloom because people wanted it, but their tissue sample show the veg would be better. my roots should also be great.lol

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When I first used DG years ago- all they had was the grow- it yielded good results and was an extremely simple regimen. I actually forgot about this entirely- thanks for the reminder-lol...
 

homebrewer

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How did your project turn out? If I had to guess, you're currently stabilizing more phenotypes with ideal traits.
The project turned out really well actually. Out of the 15 initial seeds that I germed, I had 12 females and about 8 different phenos. The goal was never to stabilize anything in seed form or to isolate traits that I liked, I really just wanted some killer F1 clone-only strains. It was hard to let some of those phenos go but I currently have 3 phenos from that cross that I really like and will set aside for future work (they don't need work but I'd love to see what traits they pass on). Hopefully I can post some day 35 pics tomorrow. Another reason I haven't gone to F2s with that strain is because I only got 2 males out of that initial batch and I didn't like either of them.

I also have other crosses that I'm eager to get into as well as seeds that have been generously gifted to me that I want to work with. Based on time and space constraints, I'd hate to neglect other projects that could be tons of fun.
 

homebrewer

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This tray has my two favorite phenos in it with a dumpster girl right in the middle. They got a little tall for my tastes but I had some plants in this tray that I timed incorrectly, live-and-learn.



Pheno #1 - She smells like skunk and blueberries and packs an intense, long lasting head high.



Pheno #3 - She tends to grow these tightly packed foxtaily buds that smell like berries and earth and her high is giggly and has lasted up to 4 hours. That's one thing I noticed with this cross, the high is intense and almost annoying long (in a good way).

 

tomat0

Active Member
The project turned out really well actually. Out of the 15 initial seeds that I germed, I had 12 females and about 8 different phenos. The goal was never to stabilize anything in seed form or to isolate traits that I liked, I really just wanted some killer F1 clone-only strains. It was hard to let some of those phenos go but I currently have 3 phenos from that cross that I really like and will set aside for future work (they don't need work but I'd love to see what traits they pass on). Hopefully I can post some day 35 pics tomorrow. Another reason I haven't gone to F2s with that strain is because I only got 2 males out of that initial batch and I didn't like either of them.

I also have other crosses that I'm eager to get into as well as seeds that have been generously gifted to me that I want to work with. Based on time and space constraints, I'd hate to neglect other projects that could be tons of fun.
An 80% female batch? Most people would be happy with that ratio!

What's your rough goal for your projects?
I wish I had free access to lab testing and "unrestricted" room to grow... but don't we all? :(
 

homebrewer

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What's your rough goal for your projects?
Just to make something completely different than the parents while hopefully finding a plant that physically resembles a blend of both. My main objectives were to find something that was resinous, potent (sativa dominant), smelled pleasantly strong, and yielded well, pretty much in that order.
 

kdub86

Member
Hey HB do you use only the DG grow for veg or do you do the 2:1 ratio for that as well?

EDIT:
Sorry I found the post where you said you use only the grow and pro-tekt in veg, sorry about that!
 

infrared

Active Member
Will you be journaling it or at least posting updates in a current thread you have going? I'd love to follow along.

The quote was obv meant for hellraizer and I already PM'd you, homebrewer, but I thought I'd put a little note in here as well that I too have started a journal chronicling my experiences using Dyna-Gro products in a Sunshine #4-based mix.

I've had some trouble with Fox Farm soils and nutrients, so this journal should give some examples for novices who're looking to get out of the muck of marketing and misinformation in favor of mastering cannabis botany. Link below in my sig
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
My first time try with dyna grow will be post poned for a bit! Not shure when il get things running again.
But when I do il keep you all up to date on it!
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
It sucks dude! -25 aint nothing to mess with! Im looking into back up gennys to provent this from ever taking place
Again.
 
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