Do you believe in God?

Do you believe there is a God?

  • YES, I believe there is a God/creator

    Votes: 92 46.2%
  • NO, I do not believe there is a God/creator

    Votes: 107 53.8%

  • Total voters
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Sure Shot

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i believe that there is a higher power, not a creator and not a savior. i believe that our "souls" can be referd to as simply free energy, your body contains an amount of electricity, your brain alone contains enough electricity to power a flashlight bulb. and i know that energy doesnt diminish, it doesnt deteriate, it is iether stored or used, and if its being used its just being shead, wheather through body heat or other forms of energy use. what happens when you die? where does that energy go? i believe its released, as a kind of "soul". and i believe that when i die, my "soul" will find a place i would consider a heaven. at this heaven i believe my energy or "soul" will return to where it came from, the earth, we are made of the earth, its energy is spread between all of the people and things on it. so i guess in a way, i believe that the earth is my god and creator.
That is a considerable point with valid scientific research to back it up.
You can actually measure the human body and it loses roughly 21 grams when it dies.
What this proves is nothing, but it is definitely something to consider.
 

jfgordon1

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i'm not saying he isn't.... :D

but there is a fairly plausible example of how it could be true that we are, in fact, "aliens"

scientists have discovered that the 'motion of the ocean' near to volcanic underwater vents can create a type of cellular structure... all-be-it one that lacks any genetic information or DNA. As soon as it took on a chemical chain of sorts and began, under certain situations, to duplicate itself (probably though mitosis) ... it would have formed rudimentary life. that is one theory on how life began on earth.

another theory is that, given that the earth grows heavier by around 2 tons each day from meteorite dust settling to the ground (and larger parts of meteorites) that the first seed or cell of life was deposited on earth via meteor. meaning that all life on planet earth is of "alien" origin.
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+ rep dude...:hump:
thought tht post was badass
 

weedaweedaweed

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i'm not saying he isn't.... :D

but there is a fairly plausible example of how it could be true that we are, in fact, "aliens"

scientists have discovered that the 'motion of the ocean' near to volcanic underwater vents can create a type of cellular structure... all-be-it one that lacks any genetic information or DNA. As soon as it took on a chemical chain of sorts and began, under certain situations, to duplicate itself (probably though mitosis) ... it would have formed rudimentary life. that is one theory on how life began on earth.

another theory is that, given that the earth grows heavier by around 2 tons each day from meteorite dust settling to the ground (and larger parts of meteorites) that the first seed or cell of life was deposited on earth via meteor. meaning that all life on planet earth is of "alien" origin.
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Either that long-winded thing you just said or...

nothing is alien, all matter originated in the same place... oooooooo
 

grassified

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Yeah I remember in biology class I read a theory about life beginning on earth was from complex protiens clumping together and somehow forming a functioning organism.

I dont think that alien shit is true, how does anything survive that long to get to earth. The nearest solar system is millions of lightyears away.

I currently beleive in this as the scientific reasoning for the creation of life on earth, but I still do beleive there is some sort of higher power that made everything come to be. Not necessarily a man who said let there be light, or even a man, or an alien, or a thing, something that doesnt fit in with our physical reality at all becasue it just doesnt have to. Yeah, theres something out there I think, some sort of "god" but in my mind more of an "energy" that created all of this.
 

Lexluthor400

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I think God may have not made the earth itself directly but rather created the entire universe at once through the so called "BIG BANG"
Think of it this way, I grow weed, but i did not create/build it. I just gave it what it needed and it formed into a plant. God just gave the universe everything it needed and it formed into what it is today. This also solved his problem of keeping it this way too, because he was able to create a self-renewing universe.
This is just my theory, but NO ONE knows for SURE.
I believe in God but not religion, because religion is structured through man's interpretation of God. Since no one knows, no one is RIGHT.
 

DaGambler

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I dont think that alien shit is true, how does anything survive that long to get to earth. The nearest solar system is millions of lightyears away.
there's probably 10,000 or more living creatures in just a handful of soil. one of the most common of all can hibernate in near space like temperatures for over 300 years... and come back to life with lower temps and the addition of water. That's just one of the most common forms of life here on earth that we are aware of. But it wouldn't even take a 'living' creature. There is a virus (a sexually transmitted disease i beleive) that isn't actually considered to be living, it doesn't contain a DNA sequence, only RNA, and when it come into contact with a cell body it invades the cell and the cell starts to produce more of the virus. Earth would only need those 'blank cells' created by the tidal and volcanic forces... and then have -one- of these 'non-living' messengers come into contact with it. But here's some info on that crazy asss creature i was talking about.... they look kind of like moles, but can pull in their limbs and exude a waxy outer shell... after which they are called a 'tun' and are nearly indestructible:


THE TARDIGRADE: NATURE'S MOST INDESTRUCTIBLE CREATURE

The tiny tardigrade, whose size is no larger than the head of a pin, has proved to be one of Nature's toughest survivors. Laboratory experimenters have immersed it in liquid helium down to a savage -272 degrees Celsius. They have left it at -192 degrees Celsius for 20 months, and cooked it for a week at 92 degrees Celsius in ether, alcohol and other noxious chemicals. Restored to normal temperature and given water, the tardigrade strolls away. Some specimens were brought back to life after 120 years in a dry and dusty museum.
Obviously the tardigrade has abilities human beings lack. Tardigrades dwell in mud, damp seashore sand, or on the water film surrounding the leaves of mosses and lichens. Some varieties are entirely aquatic. Zoologically they fall somewhere between worms and insects and can move about by wriggling on four pairs of stubby legs. There are tardigrades worldwide except in the tropics and Antarctica. A single gram of dried moss has been known to yield 22,000 of them.

"Tardigrades are polyextremophiles and are able to survive in extreme environments that would kill almost any other animal. Some can survive temperatures close to absolute zero[4], temperatures as high as 151 °C (303 °F), 1,000 times more radiation than any other animal[5], nearly a decade without water, and even the vacuum of space.[6]"
 

weedaweedaweed

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regardless, the best scientific research we have at the mo says that all matter came from the same place. Therefore alien=long lost friend
 

loke

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i believe that there is a higher power, not a creator and not a savior. i believe that our "souls" can be referd to as simply free energy, your body contains an amount of electricity, your brain alone contains enough electricity to power a flashlight bulb. and i know that energy doesnt diminish, it doesnt deteriate, it is iether stored or used, and if its being used its just being shead, wheather through body heat or other forms of energy use. what happens when you die? where does that energy go? i believe its released, as a kind of "soul". and i believe that when i die, my "soul" will find a place i would consider a heaven. at this heaven i believe my energy or "soul" will return to where it came from, the earth, we are made of the earth, its energy is spread between all of the people and things on it. so i guess in a way, i believe that the earth is my god and creator.
Well put. That is almost exactly my belief, minus the heaven part. I believe our consciousness just ceases to exist and the energy of the shell in which our being once found life in, gets absorbed and distributed within the Earth and the Milky Way and unto the great totality of the universe where the whole process happens again and again. in an infinite cycle. I believe that, in this cycle, the energy changes and all the things in which the energy becomes act as filters and fortifies to further change these energies. I believe the force behind this change is evolution.

We are experiencing the evolution of energy.
 

GregD88

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there's probably 10,000 or more living creatures in just a handful of soil. one of the most common of all can hibernate in near space like temperatures for over 300 years... and come back to life with lower temps and the addition of water. That's just one of the most common forms of life here on earth that we are aware of. But it wouldn't even take a 'living' creature. There is a virus (a sexually transmitted disease i beleive) that isn't actually considered to be living, it doesn't contain a DNA sequence, only RNA, and when it come into contact with a cell body it invades the cell and the cell starts to produce more of the virus. Earth would only need those 'blank cells' created by the tidal and volcanic forces... and then have -one- of these 'non-living' messengers come into contact with it. But here's some info on that crazy asss creature i was talking about.... they look kind of like moles, but can pull in their limbs and exude a waxy outer shell... after which they are called a 'tun' and are nearly indestructible:


THE TARDIGRADE: NATURE'S MOST INDESTRUCTIBLE CREATURE

The tiny tardigrade, whose size is no larger than the head of a pin, has proved to be one of Nature's toughest survivors. Laboratory experimenters have immersed it in liquid helium down to a savage -272 degrees Celsius. They have left it at -192 degrees Celsius for 20 months, and cooked it for a week at 92 degrees Celsius in ether, alcohol and other noxious chemicals. Restored to normal temperature and given water, the tardigrade strolls away. Some specimens were brought back to life after 120 years in a dry and dusty museum.
Obviously the tardigrade has abilities human beings lack. Tardigrades dwell in mud, damp seashore sand, or on the water film surrounding the leaves of mosses and lichens. Some varieties are entirely aquatic. Zoologically they fall somewhere between worms and insects and can move about by wriggling on four pairs of stubby legs. There are tardigrades worldwide except in the tropics and Antarctica. A single gram of dried moss has been known to yield 22,000 of them.

"Tardigrades are polyextremophiles and are able to survive in extreme environments that would kill almost any other animal. Some can survive temperatures close to absolute zero[4], temperatures as high as 151 °C (303 °F), 1,000 times more radiation than any other animal[5], nearly a decade without water, and even the vacuum of space.[6]"
Those things are pretty interesting
 

GlassFreak

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Well put. That is almost exactly my belief, minus the heaven part. I believe our consciousness just ceases to exist and the energy of the shell in which our being once found life in, gets absorbed and distributed within the Earth and the Milky Way and unto the great totality of the universe where the whole process happens again and again. in an infinite cycle. I believe that, in this cycle, the energy changes and all the things in which the energy becomes act as filters and fortifies to further change these energies. I believe the force behind this change is evolution.

We are experiencing the evolution of energy.
yea, the heaven thing is a newly thought of belief for me, the fact that heaven is only sonething that exists because people say it does has me wanting to come up with another word for heaven, like me, i would want my soul to be part of a forest or jungle, but based on my own logic on the subject of souls being free energy would mean the free energy wouold be taken in or absorbed by something that can hold and store energy. if i died where i am now, the probability that my floating free energy would be absorbed by some part of a forest or jungle rather than some sort of man made battery would be very slim.

at the same time my the idiology i explain does support a kind of reincarnation if you will. in a way, the energy that started here on earth is still here on earth, its just spread out between all the living and even non living things on earth. and it will keep spreading. the energy isnt going away, its just moving. i believe that a concousness exists between living creatures and even plants on earth. i believe that because of what is happening in the world right now, on the scale it is happening, we all feel it, we all suffer it, we are all effected... we are one...



and i do believe that all matter and energy comes from the same place, and that the energy that started here on this planet is still here on this planet, it has never left or been used up, just used and re-used.



we are stardust! we are made up prodominantly out of carbon, as is all living matter, animals or plants. and all rocks have some amount of carbon in them. stardust is carbon. the carbon that was here when the earth was formed was so much that the sky and sea were compleatly green. as energy evolved into the building blocks for DNA (A,C,T,G) and single celled life forms began to take form, they would feed on the free carbon, they were single cells, thats what they ate. and as they evolved and more and more were created they were all eating and storing carbon. even as predators began to eat others, the others where still made of carbon. and as they died they would settle to the bottom of the sea, collecting in big dips in the sea floor. they were eventualy covered and fossilized, this pushed they carbon out of the cells, this is how oil was created, thats why its called fossil fule. well, now we are taking the amount of oil (which is basicaly concentrated carbon) that it took millions of years to seal away out of the ground and burning it, releasing it back into the air. and they wont stop till its all used up... and by then the ratio of oxygen in the air will have dropped, causing evolution to downsize us and other animal species. we will be smaller... but all mater being used will be the same matter used when the single celled organisms were first formed.
 

Hayduke

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There is a virus (a sexually transmitted disease i beleive) that isn't actually considered to be living, it doesn't contain a DNA sequence, only RNA, and when it come into contact with a cell body it invades the cell and the cell starts to produce more of the virus.
This is the basic description of how a virus replicates itself. Invade cell, hijack cells DNA by inserting RNA strand as template. the cell then replicates the RNA coding for the virus and nothing else. It does this until the newly replicated virus bursts out of the cell (killing it) and is then sneezed on to me. And the story continues. A viruses only goal (ambition is a sickness?) is to replicate and escape the host before the host can track it down and kill it. The human sneeze as an evolutionary tool for something that was never alive.

Be careful what you wish for,lol.
There you go again speaking wisdom...After a fuller figured first wife, I wished for a skinnier girl who might be easy on the eyes in my old age (I was 21 and dumb[er])...I married and anorexic. Around the same time I wished for a drum...I got a 5 gal sparklets water bottle. I played my "drum" for about 6months all the while learning to be specific (careful) for what I wish for...Thanks for the reminder!

But still...!

:leaf::peace::leaf:
 

TeaTreeOil

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“I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” - Stephen Roberts

Some guy said it before me. Oh well.
 

GlassFreak

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i just know that every "one god" or the highest power god can be refered to either as the sun or the force that created the sun.

its all just pegan religions changed and changed again so people wont forget it, every war that has ever been fought over religion is just rediculous, the fighting was all for the same thing, just a different way of saying it.

religion is fear of the unknown. anything that you cant explain, god. so people in power take something they understand like, electricity, something simple people dont even know about (im talkin old times) and use it to keep them in check... take an electric current and place the wires in a statue of a religious symbol, when people touch it, they feal a tingle, what is it? god... so now the people in power not only basicaly own the lower classes on an economical scale and a faith based scale. how can you loose if you have god on your side? youd fight for anything if you had proof wouldnt you? false proof. false faith, its something entire civilizations have been built on... fear, not faith.
 

GlassFreak

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Jesus is Lord and will return soon! Better be ready!
if so, he is going to be so fucking pissed off... but actualy if he was coming back he probly already did and got locked up at guantanimo bay or some shit cuz the actual meaning behind everything turns out to be different from what has been interpreted. wouldnt want the powers that be to loose theyre... powers...
 
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