DIY cloner! Looking for feedback.

Smh It was this thread..lol my delete post button will not populate. My bad Frag.

I must be a cheapskate, I like stuffing at least 3 clones into the same neoprene collar, this also keeps up the local humidity in the "canopy"

shawnery said:

My cloner has light leaks, no oxygen and pretty much everything that should contribute to root rot but it didn't.

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Root rot needs oxygen as well.
But perhaps I misunderstand you.
Root rot and many other diseases need the same things as the roots of your plants. Temperature and oxygen and water.
So when those circumstances are perfect for your roots, they are as well for diseases.

EDIT. Although I stated the things above, in a link from shawnery, I read things that are contradicting this. And the link looks very legitimate. Perhaps I mixed up some diseases.

ANC said:

I must be a cheapskate, I like stuffing at least 3 clones into the same neoprene collar, this also keeps up the local humidity in the "canopy"

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Ha! I've done the same when I have different strains I need cloned with X amount of pucks.

CoB_nUt said:

I had to check my cloner because a member mentioned my root color. I chalked it up to the recharge, and later thought to myself.."it's never turned my roots colors." Sure enough, there was a self tapping screw from a manifold downgrade in the damn bucket! Rusty Roots!.

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Glad I could be of help!

I've always been told and read for the past year that root rot grows in an enviroment low in oxygen, now I'm totally confused!

Follow link,
http://urbanagnews.com/blog/research/pythium-root-rot-on-hydroponically-grown-basil-and-spinach/
but here is the important part,
Environmental conditions that favor Pythium include excessively high fertility, waterlogged substrates (for example, in the seedling stage), low dissolved oxygen, and extreme temperatures. Injury to roots such as through mechanical damage, allowing roots to dry out, or extreme temperatures can provide an entry point to Pythium.

I clone in my veg tent or anywhere theres room at the time. The rusty nail clone water didn't kill my clones. Nor did it breed any baddes that attacked my clones. As you have stated, I too sometimes clone in an environment that SHOULD cause issues,but I dont have any issues. Also, I've never used a dome on my cloner. No misting either. My humidty is lower than I like my veg right now, I'll,see if it affects cloning time.

shawnery said:

I've always been told and read for the past year that root rot grows in an enviroment low in oxygen, now I'm totally confused!

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Now I am confused as well.
Especially because it does not come from a stoner-source.
Mmmm, then forget what I said.

ANC said:

I must be a cheapskate, I like stuffing at least 3 clones into the same neoprene collar, this also keeps up the local humidity in the "canopy"

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I had a few of them that I put 2 in, I took a few more cuttings than I needed to and didnt want to waste them lol.

Kept on reading about root rot.
Still not sure how it works.
Is it because roots/plants that grow in an environment with low DO are more vulnerable?
Or does Pythium by itself perform better with low DO?

It's a two fold problem as I understand it.

Root rot, which is not just pythium but many different types flourishes in low oxygen enviroments. Plants also do very bad in low oxygen enviroments which then increases their ability to be taken over by the pathogen. Young plants and sick(deficient and the like) plants are the most likely to be invaded by these pathogens.
Once you get it it's much like the chicken and the egg and very hard to fix.

My understanding from reading non-stoner opinions and scientific studies.

Cleanliness, light, water temp, and DO content all play their roles in root rot.
From personal experience, you can have plenty of DO and perfect temps while using something like hydroguard and still get rot. My issue was light leaks. People underestimate how much light bleeds through lids and hoses.

Root update btw!
Not quite 100% rooted, but it looks like I'll have a plenty to choose my next crop from!!!
Bruce banner, Skywalker OG, and some grape shit (1 row of each). The 3 plants I took them from are all doing AMAZING right now.

I think I stuck like 50 or more clones on a 15 site cloner last night.

ANC said:

I think I stuck like 50 or more clones on a 15 site cloner last night.

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lol I wouldnt know what to do with that many! i just need a few of each strain.

Hehehe. guilty.

fragileassassin said:

Cleanliness, light, water temp, and DO content all play their roles in root rot.
From personal experience, you can have plenty of DO and perfect temps while using something like hydroguard and still get rot. My issue was light leaks. People underestimate how much light bleeds through lids and hoses.

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Yet my cloner had tons of light leaks and every other horrible thing for hydro.

That was a good point about the kratky method which even confuses more.

shawnery said:

Yet my cloner had tons of light leaks and every other horrible thing for hydro.

That was a good point about the kratky method which even confuses more.

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I think your situation is best described by in the end its still a weed and just doesnt give a shit sometimes.

My cloner isnt far off though.. I havent really done anything with it since I cut them. Water temp stays 80+ and I have no idea what the ph is at this point as I havent checked it since it stabilized. Spray bar on 15/15 timer and I just open the lid to get some fresh air in it every few days.
At this point im hoping I can get my new veg setup done before the roots get too big for the cloner.

Cuttings taken from a plant in flower @4ish to 5 weeks from under gowth. 14 days in the cloner,tap water only no ph. Was experimenting with angled stem cuts,straight cuts,splitting stems snd scraping the skin.

They will get binned as I don't need them. Was just experimenting. No domes, I didn't even cut fan leaves in half.I never do.

Did the skinning make a difference? I would think and have read the skin fights against the protruding of the roots. Probably just some more cannabis growing folklore.