Damn Global Warming....

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I guess this overlapped, nonsense, anti-intellectual, combat mentality, is the majority of the cousin-fuckers trying to gain their own affection by bastardizing the merits of anything possible has got some good after-all. What they do "know" will hurt them. It is the state of a species on the brink, the blissful antique talking points make me wonder why there are such obviously limited imaginations and emotions riding along with "anti" flag. Facts will haunt every one of you except the 1/2 that are sociopaths......consider yourself lucky. That freedom you always are lacking is shameless poise despite your faults. I urge you to cluster, find something to fear, then hate, and as a team lie to each other about the way of the world.
 
Red1966 said:
My boss makes 230,000 a year. He's a scientist. Al Gore made over 200 million, He's not even employed. Name a corporation that makes trillions a year.
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Most scientists really don't make dick considering how long it takes to get your PhD.

Also Al Gore is a politician and businessman, not a scientist. So why does everyone bring him up? Oh right he's a single rich asshole who flies around in private jets so therefore confirms their preconceived bias that global warming is all a liberal scam.

I don't know of anyone outside of the media or politics that is really trying to get people to buy into carbon tax credits, I know I wouldn't. Most environmentalists are in favor of simple things, such as:

1. Recycling all glass, plastic, metal, paper that you can.
2. Compost your organics if you can.
3. Walk or ride a bike every once in a while instead of driving.

There you just helped solve global warming, pollution, and America's obesity crisis.
 
see4 said:
Careful, being insightful and consider many possibilities beyond something you may or may not understand will get you called "stupid", "moron" and "liar", in quick order.
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Apologizing for making horrific false accusations, then continuing to repeatedly make those very same accusations will prove you a lying moron.
 
see4 said:
His average monthly electricity bill is in the 10's of thousands. During Christmas season a few years ago, he called out the electric company to have them lay new lines to divert a new node to his property. That made the news. He is a scum-nugget, and apparently the inventor of the internets. However, that does not automatically negate we should take a close look at what we are doing to the planet, and that many scientists conclude we are adversely affecting the planet. Denying it completely is sheepish.
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The leader of your movement is arguably the worst offender on Earth, so we should sheepishly do as he says while he doesn't?
 
DutchKillsRambo said:
Most scientists really don't make dick considering how long it takes to get your PhD.

Also Al Gore is a politician and businessman, not a scientist. So why does everyone bring him up? Oh right he's a single rich asshole who flies around in private jets so therefore confirms their preconceived bias that global warming is all a liberal scam.

I don't know of anyone outside of the media or politics that is really trying to get people to buy into carbon tax credits, I know I wouldn't. Most environmentalists are in favor of simple things, such as:

1. Recycling all glass, plastic, metal, paper that you can.
2. Compost your organics if you can.
3. Walk or ride a bike every once in a while instead of driving.

There you just helped solve global warming, pollution, and America's obesity crisis.
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I agree with everything you said, except for the Al Gore comment.
Al Gore has a huge financial stake in man made global warming, he's also quite hypocritical on the subject. so I'm sure that's why everyone brings him into the conversation.
 
beenthere said:
I know it took a hell of a change in climate for the last ice age to cease to exist and there was no industrial revolution going on then.

I'm sure humans have contributed in a minute way to the earths climate changes, but that's like saying people who take a piss in the Pacific Ocean while swimming are the cause of it's pollution.
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No, that's silly, but figure that mankind has formed two gyres in the center of oceans the size of texas. But no, that isn't man's fault either right? Man can't possibly have an effect on the earth, right?
 
see4 said:
I don't know of a single climatologist who makes a billion dollars, not even a million. I'd go as far to say they likely make less than $150k a year.
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You aren't getting the point, climatology makes billions in grants, gas, oil, and related intustries make trillions. Who is more intvested in their postulations? Who is more likely, based on the logic presented as to why climatologists lie.... to.... lie?
 
beenthere said:
Deceit once again, $billions are spent by our government for scientists (plural) and their staffs. Who wouldn't have an interest in their own $150k a year career?
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And what CEO wouldn't have an interest in their pay should their status quo be forced to change? Or do you forget that there is a tremendeous investment in that status quo, an investment well worth spending much more than the government spends in research.
 
Doer said:
That was a bit silly, canndo. The argument is false.

Big Oil, makes trillions over brute forcing, our entire global economy, out of 6 inch drill stems, 2 miles deep.

I say they earn that in spades and are public, these "corporation" (like that is bad word.) They are open to public and executive, and legal scrutiny. So, it is simply envy, this entire thing.

In order to horn in on the Big Oil %$$$$$$$$$$$$$$% many lies have been created.

The Billions in big lies is waste. The Trillions by Big Oil is all these billions of people's survival, on this Planet. That is unless we go back to a million people alive like the Agenda seems to desire.

Lies vs REAL, rip-off vs Production of Wealth, the hard way.

And it is not just the advertizing of Agenda that is the waste, it is done against public companies using the Public's money.

And the asleep, fall for it. And twice a year, on RIU, they pull the same BS and ignore facts like cattle along a fence.

It never occurs to dumbass cattle, if they would all step forward 2 steps, any fence is in the dustbin of history.

That is where this will end up, I think. Discredited. Step forward and ignore this money scam.

Climate Change? But, of course, the entire seasonal change will precess in the orbit, 1 entire day, in your life time.

That drives it. Nothing else, even sunspots and certainly not our pitiful scab, we call civilization.

I have posted at length on all this. Use the search function?

97% of the sold out, anti-civilization assholes they could find, signed an opinion poll for their job choice, to help kill Big Oil.
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the argument is no where near false. If climatologists are interested in keeping their grants by lying, why is it impossible for those in the energy industry not equaly interested in keeping their salary through other lies? lies, in fact that are orchestrated and paid for through PR firms that introduce doubt outside of science. Science is mostly interested in truth, industry is mostly interested in profit, yet you have turned it around. Since when is industry interested in truth above profit?

No, the motiations don't fit. Scientists rarely enter their fields in order to secure a pleasant lifestyle and to accuse them ALL of lying in order to protect their tiny incomes without also inspecting the opposition, their motives and actions is to be among those cattle at the fence.
 
canndo said:
No, that's silly, but figure that mankind has formed two gyres in the center of oceans the size of texas. But no, that isn't man's fault either right? Man can't possibly have an effect on the earth, right?
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The gyres were there before man existed. The plastic is new
 
canndo said:
You aren't getting the point, climatology makes billions in grants, gas, oil, and related intustries make trillions. Who is more intvested in their postulations? Who is more likely, based on the logic presented as to why climatologists lie.... to.... lie?
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First, if you want me to understand your point, you will need to formulate your thought much clearer. I am assuming here that your first thought, "climatology makes billions in grants", and your second thought is, "gas, oil and related industries make trillions".

Based on that assumption, you are confused by the definition of profit. Most research grants are non-profit business decision whereas the oil and gas industry are in it ONLY for profit. So to answer your question, yes, I believe the oil and gas industry is paying a ton of money to brainwash the feeble minded folks into thinking that human caused climate change is a hoax.

I hope I answered your "confusing" question.
 
canndo said:
the argument is no where near false. If climatologists are interested in keeping their grants by lying, why is it impossible for those in the energy industry not equaly interested in keeping their salary through other lies? lies, in fact that are orchestrated and paid for through PR firms that introduce doubt outside of science. Science is mostly interested in truth, industry is mostly interested in profit, yet you have turned it around. Since when is industry interested in truth above profit? (right, Freud, one industry against another)

No, the motivations don't fit. Scientists rarely enter their fields in order to secure a pleasant lifestyle and to accuse them ALL of lying in order to protect their tiny incomes without also inspecting the opposition, their motives and actions is to be among those cattle at the fence.
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No. I still think you have it mixed up. And I have researched the science side, on my own, and have posted my opinions.

You are mired in false logic train. Not lying. True Believing the Agenda against Big Oil.

The Grants draw the faithful believers to the money. Grants from govt are a diversion of funds to Agenda choices. I am surprised you don't know this.

And I am surprised to learn you don't really understand how science careers are made.

But here is the sick part. If you influence mush minds children to save the planet, SO blame carbon, then they can have a career about that. If you grant only that type of reasearch then you squash all other interests in the competition for the Research Assistant, plum jobs.

There is plenty of real science to blow it all out as a fraud. But, still the UN climate WISHERS for money, are getting all the govts to spend the $$$ on the grants. The more the lies pile up the more they have to lie for $$$.

You could be a lot more cynical about human motives for Capital. And not seem so uniformed.

This is nothing more than an old hippy agenda of Hate Big Oil.
It was a transient in bad data, that now doesn't show up.

Woops. No warming.
 
beenthere said:
I know it took a hell of a change in climate for the last ice age to cease to exist and there was no industrial revolution going on then.

I'm sure humans have contributed in a minute way to the earths climate changes, but that's like saying people who take a piss in the Pacific Ocean while swimming are the cause of it's pollution.
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canndo said:
No, that's silly, but figure that mankind has formed two gyres in the center of oceans the size of texas. But no, that isn't man's fault either right? Man can't possibly have an effect on the earth, right?
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Please explain how it's silly that the earth warmed up after the last ice age without man's involvement?
I think it's a question you want to avoid. BTW, I believe you mean, trash vortexes, but that's a different subject, isn't it?

canndo said:
And what CEO wouldn't have an interest in their pay should their status quo be forced to change? Or do you forget that there is a tremendeous investment in that status quo, an investment well worth spending much more than the government spends in research.
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Well, I commend you on not wanting any part of the argument that scientists have a financial horse in this race.
Unlike you, I'll directly answer your question by saying, yes, big oil does have an interest in all this, if sketchy science and politics threatened the industry you were vested in, would you spend money to defend it?

But regardless, doesn't the burden of proof lie on the party making the claims?
 
Doer said:
No. I still think you have it mixed up. And I have researched the science side, on my own, and have posted my opinions.

You are mired in this logic train. The Grants draw the beleivers to the money. Grants from govt are a diversion of funds to agenda choices. I am suprised you don't know this.

And I am suprised to learn you don't really understand how science careers are made.

If you influence mush minds children to save the planet, blame carbon, then they can have a career about that.
If you grant only that type of reasearch then you squash all other interest.

There is plenty of real science to blow it out as a fraud. But we still the climate WISHERS for money, to be getting the govts to spend the $$$ on the grants. The more the lies pile up the more they have to lie for $$$.

You could be a lot more cynical about human motives for Capital. And not seem so uniformed.

THis is nothing more than an old hippy agenda of Hate Big Oil.
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No offense, but Big Oil has deep pockets and you should hate them really. Alternatives exist and have been shelved long enough. Scientists do get grants, I got one......does not mean cars and oil are safe and sustainable. The hacks they hire wouldn't be necessary if oil wasn't shady.
 
burgertime2010 said:
No offense, but Big Oil has deep pockets and you should hate them really. Alternatives exist and have been shelved long enough. Scientists do get grants, I got one......does not mean cars and oil are safe and sustainable. The hacks they hire wouldn't be necessary if oil wasn't shady.
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Now you council me to this blind hate? You prove my point.
 
burgertime2010 said:
No offense, but Big Oil has deep pockets and you should hate them really. Alternatives exist and have been shelved long enough. Scientists do get grants, I got one (what grant?)......does not mean cars and oil are safe and sustainable. The hacks they hire wouldn't be necessary if oil wasn't shady.
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That is why I don't want to discuss it with you. Blind and unsubstantiated hated that you bought, not me. You are not capable of refraining from all this harsh lingo of the Agenda.

Car are not safe and oil is hard to get, and that is a fact of life. No alternatives but fraking. No magic solar panel, if we could only fund the research. Govt Grant on Agenda.

So, no discussion is possible at the level of lingo you provide here.
 
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