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Don Gin and Ton

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speaking of BB, the prices will be going up end of the month so if peeps have been putting off ordering.... now's the time, normal code RIU 15% off will still be offered and like for like freebies for paid for pips too.

Around end of the month, the Fireballs will be out and testers of the Blue Pit BX1 will go out with orders.
 

AlphaPhase

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Hey so I think I have a bunch of winged root aphids. They look kinda like fungal gnats except they are just running around the top of my soil.

How do I kill these mofos? My plants hardly look affected, if at all; realistically my plants look better than they ever have.

I have some Bacillus Thuringiensis and some Spinosad i've used a little bit of so far, but they still seem to be alive and well.. That being said I didnt really expect either of those to clear the problem.

Will Azamax do it?
That sucks man. I thought I had them once and after lots of research and talking to people about it, you need Bayer tree and Shrub. It's systemic so you don't want to use it in flower. A few doses of that should knock the numbers way down. And use sticky cards to catch the flyers. Should do the trick (it's not organic and I don't think you can get rid of them using anything organic). I bet ya picked em up from the hydro store, one of the many perks :p
 

SomeGuy

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That sucks man. I thought I had them once and after lots of research and talking to people about it, you need Bayer tree and Shrub. It's systemic so you don't want to use it in flower. A few doses of that should knock the numbers way down. And use sticky cards to catch the flyers. Should do the trick (it's not organic and I don't think you can get rid of them using anything organic). I bet ya picked em up from the hydro store, one of the many perks :p

That stuff works but is knarly. lately I have been spraying every other day w hydrogen peroxide 3%. I bet a soil flush with it would kill them all off.. kill off the beneficial too though. plants dont seem to mind the spray. as long as its in the dark. :-)
 

curious old fart

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notice the resemblance with our favorite seed---aptly named too.

Seen for the first time in 185 years: Mormon church releases photos of 'seer stone' used by religion's founder to decode Egyptian scripts that became Book of Mormon

The Mormon church for the first time is publishing photos of 'the seer stone' (pictured) it believes founder Joseph Smith used to help translate the story that became the basis of the religion. Mormons believe that 185 years ago, Smith found gold plates engraved with writing in ancient Egyptian in upstate New York (top right). They say that God helped him translate the text using the stone and other tools (bottom right), which became known as the Book of Mormon.

:peace:
cof
 

papapayne

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That sucks man. I thought I had them once and after lots of research and talking to people about it, you need Bayer tree and Shrub. It's systemic so you don't want to use it in flower. A few doses of that should knock the numbers way down. And use sticky cards to catch the flyers. Should do the trick (it's not organic and I don't think you can get rid of them using anything organic). I bet ya picked em up from the hydro store, one of the many perks :p
the active ingredient of that is imidchloryid....when I had root aphids...it didnt work. i mean, it would kill shit tons of them, but even after maxing out the number of uses, and then getting the "non edible tree Shrub" version (stays in the plant for a year and has a longer half life) they still kept the soil colonized and still stayed high enough numbers to keep pushing new flyers. Maybe I am just the lucky sob that got the super version of root aphids...my experience with them was not one of hope lol
 

Flaming Pie

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That stuff works but is knarly. lately I have been spraying every other day w hydrogen peroxide 3%. I bet a soil flush with it would kill them all off.. kill off the beneficial too though. plants dont seem to mind the spray. as long as its in the dark. :-)
Two times with hydrogen peroxide will kill em all dead. application 1 week apart. Will kill bacteria and fungi too.
 

hippy132

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Dang yo I totally understand.

I have chronic nausea that has had me in the hospital twice, with another two bouts of extreme flare ups that I greatly would have preferred to go to the hospital for. I've been prescribed Ondansetron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ondansetron and Hydrocodone/apap on both occasions. In these cases I had thrown up so much that my muscles felt like they were being torn apart and I was throwing up decent amounts of blood.

Cannabis is easily 5x more potent on the anti nausea than Ondansetron was, and Ondansetron is the med they give to individuals going through chemotherapy.

IMO one of cannabis's greatest strengths (even though I rarely enjoy using it) is the fact that it shits on nausea; hence my curiosity.

I don't think MJ would have necessarily cured his cancer, but i do think it would have been some relief

Its some real bullshit that the government scared who sounds like an awesome dude away from such incredible symptom relief.
Wife had chronic nausea for years , finally found a Dr that prescribed Probiotics and a breakfast drink that has helped her for two years. when she went into emergency room after throwing up for three days they suggested that the marijuana usage caused it, she stopped for three months and saw no changes. With a prescription for VSL3# DS and the daily drink she has gained some weight but for the first time in her life she is stomach ache free. Hers was diagnosed as NO bacteria in her system and seems to be better today.

I on the other hand just 3 weeks ago went thru Cancer treatment and after foolishly admitting to the Dr that I smoked , he stated a joint was like 6 packs of cigarettes, so I told him I quit and didn’t smoke for the first week. Hoping marijuana doesn’t cause cancer also, as every other fucking thing seems to.
 

Flaming Pie

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Wife had chronic nausea for years , finally found a Dr that prescribed Probiotics and a breakfast drink that has helped her for two years. when she went into emergency room after throwing up for three days they suggested that the marijuana usage caused it, she stopped for three months and saw no changes. With a prescription for VSL3# DS and the daily drink she has gained some weight but for the first time in her life she is stomach ache free. Hers was diagnosed as NO bacteria in her system and seems to be better today.

I on the other hand just 3 weeks ago went thru Cancer treatment and after foolishly admitting to the Dr that I smoked , he stated a joint was like 6 packs of cigarettes, so I told him I quit and didn’t smoke for the first week. Hoping marijuana doesn’t cause cancer also, as every other fucking thing seems to.
I'm sorry, but I would ask him to cite the research on 1 joint is = to 6 x 20 cigarettes. Sounds like complete bullshit to me. Especially since THC inhibits carcinogen uptake and nicotine increases uptake. http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1477-7517-2-21.pdf[1]

In conclusion, while both tobacco and cannabis smoke have similar properties chemically, their pharmacological activities differ greatly. Components of cannabis smoke minimize some carcinogenic pathways whereas tobacco smoke enhances some. Both types of smoke contain carcinogens and particulate matter that promotes inflammatory immune responses that may enhance the carcinogenic effects of the smoke. However, cannabis typically down-regulates immunologically-generated free radical production by promoting a Th2 immune cytokine profile. Furthermore, THC inhibits the enzyme necessary to activate some of the carcinogens found in smoke. In contrast, tobacco smoke increases the likelihood of carcinogenesis by overcoming normal cellular checkpoint protective mechanisms through the activity of respiratoryepithelial cell nicotine receptors. Cannabinoids receptors have not been reported in respiratory epithelial cells (in skin they prevent cancer), and hence the DNA damage checkpoint mechanism should remain intact after prolonged cannabis exposure. Furthermore, nicotine promotes tumor angiogenesis whereas cannabis inhibits it. It is possible that as the cannabis-consuming population ages, the long-term consequences of smoking cannabis may become more similar to what is observed with tobacco. However, current knowledge does not suggest that cannabis smoke will have a carcinogenic potential comparable to that resulting from exposure to tobacco smoke
 

jigfresh

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notice the resemblance with our favorite seed---aptly named too.

Seen for the first time in 185 years: Mormon church releases photos of 'seer stone' used by religion's founder to decode Egyptian scripts that became Book of Mormon

The Mormon church for the first time is publishing photos of 'the seer stone' (pictured) it believes founder Joseph Smith used to help translate the story that became the basis of the religion. Mormons believe that 185 years ago, Smith found gold plates engraved with writing in ancient Egyptian in upstate New York (top right). They say that God helped him translate the text using the stone and other tools (bottom right), which became known as the Book of Mormon.

:peace:
cof
The story of Joseph Smith is just absolutely amazing (read that as you like). Just amazing.
 

Eloyd

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Hey so I think I have a bunch of winged root aphids. They look kinda like fungal gnats except they are just running around the top of my soil.

How do I kill these mofos? My plants hardly look affected, if at all; realistically my plants look better than they ever have.

I have some Bacillus Thuringiensis and some Spinosad i've used a little bit of so far, but they still seem to be alive and well.. That being said I didnt really expect either of those to clear the problem.

Will Azamax do it?
Another option instead of killing your plants dip roots in 3 parts water 1part peroxide change res fresh nutes and water also take a potato chop it up into thick slices and place them on top of hydroton or what ever medium your using their larvae will crawl in to potato's u will see them dispose of old slices and replace with new.and make sure u take off the potato skin hope all goes well stay green
 
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hippy132

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Eloyd

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Another option instead of killing your plants dip roots in 3 parts water 1part peroxide change res fresh nutes and water also take a potato chop it up into thick slices and place them on top of hydroton or what ever medium your using their larvae will crawl in to potato's u will see them dispose of old slices and replace with new.and make sure u take off the potato skin hope all goes well stay green
Also their is info on this sight called Root aphids and fungus gnats
 

papapayne

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Im just about 90% sure the potato thing only works with fungus gnats not root aphids. I sincerely hope that you don't have them...because every grower and research that I have read about them is not nearly as easy as a few dunks and a spray vala clean grow.

For the people suggesting the h202 dunks and such, have you guys actually used those to successfully destroy an infestion?? What did you guys do for the flyers that are everywhere else? Like buzzing in the corners, in the lights, corners of the room, and elsewhere in the house? I'm certainly not trying to be rude, however, everyone that I have met that has had root aphids all says the same thing as I do...factory reset required to beat them. I spent hundred battling them...and in the end all it did was drain the bank and delay the inevitable.
 

papapayne

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thanks @DST! I have more BB seeds going, and am hoping to beat the rush to pick up a pack of the blue pit. gotta save my money, as I want a few other BB packs as well, never not found an awesome keeper. The dog is becoming one of my top smokes, and the sour cherry is one of my favs for pain and anxiety. Can't wait to try my cheeses, they pics don't do them justice.
 

Eloyd

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Im just about 90% sure the potato thing only works with fungus gnats not root aphids. I sincerely hope that you don't have them...because every grower and research that I have read about them is not nearly as easy as a few dunks and a spray vala clean grow.

For the people suggesting the h202 dunks and such, have you guys actually used those to successfully destroy an infestion?? What did you guys do for the flyers that are everywhere else? Like buzzing in the corners, in the lights, corners of the room, and elsewhere in the house? I'm certainly not trying to be rude, however, everyone that I have met that has had root aphids all says the same thing as I do...factory reset required to beat them. I spent hundred battling them...and in the end all it did was drain the bank and delay the inevitable.
I run hydro and when I had the little fly shits crawling up out my hydro ton I used the methods recommend and they worked I got all my info from this very sight which is why I referenced the page.to be honest it could have been gnats and not aphids it was three years ago.but I do recommend a through investigation before destroying your crop I've heard bti mentioned with success look around their are very knowledgeable people here and other sights as well.good luck stay green
 
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