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mdjenks

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mdjenks

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Have you happened to try any of the CBD strains out there? I wouldn't mind helping you track down something like that. My pops is a veteran from nam and he got shot in the back. I can't ever know exactly how you guys feel but I do appreciate every day we can walk the streets as free people thanks to those who have bigger balls.
I have, I have had high CBD oil and a buddy grew some of Subcools Pennywise (which he said was a bitch to grow) for us fucked up vets as a surprise gift and both the oil and the Pennywise worked very well. I always have some CBD oil on hand. I also get steroid shots in my spine every six months.

One pic is the test results Subcool Posted on his website the other is the very very expensive High CBD oil called Jayden Juice:
 

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mdjenks

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I think there were a few 600 cluber's that were all gonna get a pack to hunt the golden ticket pheno. We could do the same with the plushberry. just think if we have 5 people popping a pack and sharing info. Now we are making a selection from 50 plants, as long as all 5 people got the real keeper,I think it is a way better way to find rare phenos. Im always down for a pheno hunt.
When I pop some from my 10 pack of plush berry I will keep all informed especially if I get the Black Cherry Soda pheno.
 

mdjenks

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All of TGA's strains I've tried the Vortex was my favorite as far as a "high" goes...didn't care for the mustardy poo smell and in general was a easy plant to grow but I was growing with f2's .
Ha, I forgot about running Vortex a few time about 5 years ago, yes it is really good but I prefer chernobyl.
 

shishkaboy

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Not sure what you mean from a uniform batch of clones, maybe they all came from the same mother? Not the case with DHN they have thousands of clones. Anybody can get the golden ticket "pheno" it is no certain strain just a pheno type.

Subsool himself talks about it here: https://www.rollitup.org/t/return-to-chernobyl-the-golden-ticket.527304/
We all understand that the "golden ticket" is just one rare phenotype of the chernobyl strain. This is the exact reasoning I would use to justify the purchase of this clone. If it really is the rare phenotype, it would save a lot of time, otherwise it seems that pheno hunting some packs would give at least the same chances.
When I say clone only, this definition is more fitting, I am talking about a specific phenotype of a specific strain.
This is the type of information that I was trying to get to be made public when we were all basically arguing over the authenticity of DHN clones.
 

akhiymjames

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Not sure what you mean from a uniform batch of clones, maybe they all came from the same mother? Not the case with DHN they have thousands of clones. Anybody can get the golden ticket "pheno" it is no certain strain just a pheno type.

Subsool himself talks about it here: https://www.rollitup.org/t/return-to-chernobyl-the-golden-ticket.527304/
We all understand that the "golden ticket" is just one rare phenotype of the chernobyl strain. This is the exact reasoning I would use to justify the purchase of this clone. If it really is the rare phenotype, it would save a lot of time, otherwise it seems that pheno hunting some packs would give at least the same chances.
When I say clone only, this definition is more fitting, I am talking about a specific phenotype of a specific strain.
This is the type of information that I was trying to get to be made public when we were all basically arguing over the authenticity of DHN clones.
What Shish is saying is since DHN is selling Chernobyl clones every clone should be the Golden Ticket. It shouldn't be another pheno of Chernobyl every time you purchase the clone. It should be the same pheno every single time. If it isn't then thats sad cus thats why people buy clones for a specific pheno. I see why Shish wants to know so much about them cus its too many weird variables with them.
 

mdjenks

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What Shish is saying is since DHN is selling Chernobyl clones every clone should be the Golden Ticket. It shouldn't be another pheno of Chernobyl every time you purchase the clone. It should be the same pheno every single time. If it isn't then thats sad cus thats why people buy clones for a specific pheno. I see why Shish wants to know so much about them cus its too many weird variables with them.
I'm just saying with a hybrid you are never going to get the same pheno every time. If it was a pure land race maybe. But you may get a more train wreck pheno or a more trinity pheno or a Jack's cleaner or a space queen pheno. Not sure which one has the traits of the golden ticket and like subcool says he got it from a grower that ran chernobyl and kept this pheno but even with clones you can still get traits from the crosses in that hybrid.
 

mdjenks

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We all understand that the "golden ticket" is just one rare phenotype of the chernobyl strain. This is the exact reasoning I would use to justify the purchase of this clone. If it really is the rare phenotype, it would save a lot of time, otherwise it seems that pheno hunting some packs would give at least the same chances.
When I say clone only, this definition is more fitting, I am talking about a specific phenotype of a specific strain.
This is the type of information that I was trying to get to be made public when we were all basically arguing over the authenticity of DHN clones.
Like I said in the post above when it comes to hybrids, I don't care if it cuttings from the same mother you can still get different traits from the crosses that make up the hybrid. Maybe I'm not understanding what you are saying but it is a crap shoot with a hybrid. DHN gets its chernobyl cuts and has no idea which one would be the "golden ticket", it isn't a clone only strain.
 

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I'm just saying with a hybrid you are never going to get the same pheno every time. If it was a pure land race maybe. But you may get a more train wreck pheno or a more trinity pheno or a Jack's cleaner or a space queen pheno. Not sure which one has the traits of the golden ticket and like subcool says he got it from a grower that ran chernobyl and kept this pheno but even with clones you can still get traits from the crosses in that hybrid.
Yes thats true but most of the time clones from the mom should show the same traits. I know different growers and conditions will make different traits come out but that pheno isn't gonna jump all over the place. Whatever dom pheno it is thats what it should be right? Anybody correct me if Im wrong
 

akhiymjames

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Like I said in the post above when it comes to hybrids, I don't care if it cuttings from the same mother you can still get different traits from the crosses that make up the hybrid. Maybe I'm not understanding what you are saying but it is a crap shoot with a hybrid. DHN gets its chernobyl cuts and has no idea which one would be the "golden ticket", it isn't a clone only strain.
I see what your saying but If the pheno is Golden Ticket now I don't know what side the Golden Ticket pheno leans to but it should lean to that side majority of the time. Yea Jacks Cleaner or Space Queen traits could come out more but that cutting should be pretty consistent
 

mdjenks

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Yes thats true but most of the time clones from the mom should show the same traits. I know different growers and conditions will make different traits come out but that pheno isn't gonna jump all over the place. Whatever dom pheno it is thats what it should be right? Anybody correct me if Im wrong
I have done extensive research and yes if you have a mother that is a dominant pheno you will most likely get those traits but you may not. I had a mother of the golden ticket and several times i got the other traits. And like I said it is not a clone only strain so who knows how many of those beans came from reputable testers. Regardless if you get the golden ticket or not it still is a great strain. Like the plushberry and the black cherry soda pheno. I have never known any grower I know to get that pheno but i have seen pics from others that have. I have yet to pop any plushberry beans and I hope I get the pheno just to say I got it and have that gnarly looking pink bud but if I don't I will try and try again.

By no means am I trying to start an argument but this is good conversation about clones, phenos, etc and it is good for the thread and people to learn from. I appreciate all the speculation and questions and I cannot answer all of them and i know there are more experienced growers on this thread and would love to hear their input as well because I know I don't know everything especially with the complex plant we love called cannabis.

Just for fun sakes i hate Lebron, I am more a Durant fan and back in the day Allen Iverson.
 

akhiymjames

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I have done extensive research and yes if you have a mother that is a dominant pheno you will most likely get those traits but you may not. I had a mother of the golden ticket and several times i got the other traits. And like I said it is not a clone only strain so who knows how many of those beans came from reputable testers. Regardless if you get the golden ticket or not it still is a great strain. Like the plushberry and the black cherry soda pheno. I have never known any grower I know to get that pheno but i have seen pics from others that have. I have yet to pop any plushberry beans and I hope I get the pheno just to say I got it and have that gnarly looking pink bud but if I don't I will try and try again.

By no means am I trying to start an argument but this is good conversation about clones, phenos, etc and it is good for the thread and people to learn from. I appreciate all the speculation and questions and I cannot answer all of them and i know there are more experienced growers on this thread and would love to hear their input as well because I know I don't know everything especially with the complex plant we love called cannabis.

Just for fun sakes i hate Lebron, I am more a Durant fan and back in the day Allen Iverson.
No bro no arguing over here just healthy debating and trying to find out info. I believe you as Im just now starting to really work with clones so I truly don't know how they work. When you had the golden Ticket and it showed other traits was it pretty consistent or did it change completely? Im not tripping about it being the Golden Ticket pheno or not as it says Chernobyl not Golden Ticket but I know its not a clone only strain so I understand you saying they won't be the same but DHN don't house mothers? I know they're pumping out clones madly but one would think they're clones would be consistent and not be this pheno or that pheno of the same strain. Oh well lol good info tho bro

Lol its all good man I get picked on by the Lebron haters all the time everywhere I go. Me being from Ohio and going to see him play in high school and us possibly being related (very serious about that too been really trying to find out) but Im a true fan. I love KD too and respect every great player. Allen Iverson always hold a special place in my heart being that I was lil playing ball too and played a lot like him as I watched his game tremendously. One of the greatest scorers of all time
 

mdjenks

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No bro no arguing over here just healthy debating and trying to find out info. I believe you as Im just now starting to really work with clones so I truly don't know how they work. When you had the golden Ticket and it showed other traits was it pretty consistent or did it change completely? Im not tripping about it being the Golden Ticket pheno or not as it says Chernobyl not Golden Ticket but I know its not a clone only strain so I understand you saying they won't be the same but DHN don't house mothers? I know they're pumping out clones madly but one would think they're clones would be consistent and not be this pheno or that pheno of the same strain. Oh well lol good info tho bro

Lol its all good man I get picked on by the Lebron haters all the time everywhere I go. Me being from Ohio and going to see him play in high school and us possibly being related (very serious about that too been really trying to find out) but Im a true fan. I love KD too and respect every great player. Allen Iverson always hold a special place in my heart being that I was lil playing ball too and played a lot like him as I watched his game tremendously. One of the greatest scorers of all time
Actually when I had the golden ticket mom it was here and there I never got mostly "golden ticket" and I ran at least 10 runs of at least 12 ladies so I don't know man. That is why I want some of the other more experienced growers to chime in, I'm experienced but I know for sure there are more experienced than me for sure. I have never bred a strain and I am learning how from my mentor and it is a long process to find a stable new breed.

I respect LeBron he is one of the greats but I am not a fan mainly due to him going to miami to a stacked team to get a championship which he did twice and good on him, I'm no hater and if you are a baller in the pro's you want a championship that is why I am a big KD fan he could do the same but has yet to. Who would think OKC would have a good team or even have a team and I don't think it would be that way without him.
 

akhiymjames

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Actually when I had the golden ticket mom it was here and there I never got mostly "golden ticket" and I ran at least 10 runs of at least 12 ladies so I don't know man. That is why I want some of the other more experienced growers to chime in, I'm experienced but I know for sure there are more experienced than me for sure. I have never bred a strain and I am learning how from my mentor and it is a long process to find a stable new breed.

I respect LeBron he is one of the greats but I am not a fan mainly due to him going to miami to a stacked team to get a championship which he did twice and good on him, I'm no hater and if you are a baller in the pro's you want a championship that is why I am a big KD fan he could do the same but has yet to. Who would think OKC would have a good team or even have a team and I don't think it would be that way without him.
Ok I see but yea I hope some others with more experience chime in on this cus this is very interesting. I have never bred anything either but gonna start dabbling soon so Ive been doing lots of research and studying. Gonna talk to a few people here as I know a couple that have great eyes for males and breeding.

I feel you on why you don't like Lebron and thats most people who don't like him like the way he had to get rings but tell me this did Cleveland surround him with the caliber of team he should've had? Think of all the great teams that won championships they were all stacked lol Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Pistons, Rockets and Bucks with Big O and Kareem. So I understand why he did it and Cleveland won't make that mistake this time. You see how they're surrounding him with the right players. OKC built the team they are now. They should be stacked too as they had Harden and Green but let them go. KD is great but its gonna be hard for him to win with just him and Westbrook. They aren't enough but we could talk ball all day lets stay on topic. Hit me with a pm for that :lol:
 

mdjenks

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Just grab a pack - I've had 4 girls over the years, none was this Golden Ticket. Every one was lime sherbet. One was B, two were A, and one was just an insane lime slurpee frost monster. Whatever comes from those beans, ime, is always well worth it.
Ah yes the lime slurpee frost monster, I seem to have got that pheno the most and I love it for the smell, look, and potency!
 

mdjenks

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Ok I see but yea I hope some others with more experience chime in on this cus this is very interesting. I have never bred anything either but gonna start dabbling soon so Ive been doing lots of research and studying. Gonna talk to a few people here as I know a couple that have great eyes for males and breeding.

I feel you on why you don't like Lebron and thats most people who don't like him like the way he had to get rings but tell me this did Cleveland surround him with the caliber of team he should've had? Think of all the great teams that won championships they were all stacked lol Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Pistons, Rockets and Bucks with Big O and Kareem. So I understand why he did it and Cleveland won't make that mistake this time. You see how they're surrounding him with the right players. OKC built the team they are now. They should be stacked too as they had Harden and Green but let them go. KD is great but its gonna be hard for him to win with just him and Westbrook. They aren't enough but we could talk ball all day lets stay on topic. Hit me with a pm for that :lol:
I agree B-ball is for the pm's
 
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