Cheap and Cheerful DIY using Citizen cobs

robincnn

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Got a Mechatronix Giga 152-100 1530grams, 0.52 °C/. Was thinking of putting a Vero but the holes come under LES so will just put CLU044
Got a CLU044-1212B8-503M1A2 to test
Looking for some Nichia on futureelectronics.com for a work lamp.

No plans to stock COBs. Just Pin heatsinks and some other stuff that is not easily available.

Digikey has CLU058 for $78 so not sure if it will cost less than 3590. Should be a good test if you can get it for cheep.
Any holder for CLU058?
edit: http://www.bjb.com/index.php?pid=402072&lid=4
 
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JorgeGonzales

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Got a Mechatronix Giga 152-100 1530grams, 0.52 °C/. Was thinking of putting a Vero but the holes come under LES so will just put CLU044
Got a CLU044-1212B8-503M1A2 to test
Looking for some Nichia on futureelectronics.com for a work lamp.

No plans to stock COBs. Just Pin heatsinks and some other stuff that is not easily available.

Digikey has CLU058 for $78 so not sure if it will cost less than 3590. Should be a good test if you can get it for cheep.
Any holder for CLU058?
edit: http://www.bjb.com/index.php?pid=402072&lid=4
Digikey prices are WAY out of line with everywhere else that sells Citizens.

The CLU058-1825 is about $42 retail at CDI, $45 at tme, and Marl's prices for the UK seem similar. Cheaper by the tray, I'm sure.

The CLU048-1212 is $28 at Digikey, and $12 everywhere else. I like Digikey, and use them often, but they are really overcharging here.
 

exkalapalatt

Active Member
Digikey prices are WAY out of line with everywhere else that sells Citizens.

The CLU058-1825 is about $42 retail at CDI, $45 at tme, and Marl's prices for the UK seem similar. Cheaper by the tray, I'm sure.

The CLU048-1212 is $28 at Digikey, and $12 everywhere else. I like Digikey, and use them often, but they are really overcharging here.
The CLU-048 1212 CRI80 is 8,60€ at the DNA Slovakia, but the MOQ is 30pcs.
 

Will Thayer

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The CLU-048 1212 CRI80 is 8,60€ at the DNA Slovakia, but the MOQ is 30pcs.
Hello Exkalapalatt,
Are you Slovenian? That price is nice. I would be curious to know if they would send them to the U.K. Every other supplier thus far has refused to sell outside of their own country.
I will make some enquires this week. If they will sell them outside of Slovenia 30 at €8.60 would be a better price then I can get locally provided they do not charge extortionate shipping rates.

Cheers,
Will
 

Trippyness

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Mr Gonzales,
A very clean build Sir. It is refreshing to see people using Citizens. I can get the CLU048-1212 over here for $11.90. Your post has nudged my hand closer to my wallet even though I promised myself to stop buying LEDs for a bit.
I seem to be running out of grow space to put new fittings over. Perhaps in a month or two I will build the CLU048-1212 option.

Thanks for sharing your build, great job.

Cheers,
Will
Where did you find that price?
 

Will Thayer

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Thanks for the quick response Will
I have sent an email to the sales rep here asking about price breaks for quantity. Also asked for a breakdown of what they stock and lead times for COBs they do not have on hand. When they get back to me I am happy to place an order if there are enough members here interested or struggling to source locally. @exkalapalatt has found a better price than mine in Slovenia but chances are they will not send them to me in the U.K. @Malocan I think is Deutsche and he struggled with TME.eu from Poland. It is how Citizen handle their distribution.

Cheers,
Will
 
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alesh

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I have sent an email to the sales rep here asking about price breaks for quantity. Also asked for a breakdown of what they stock and lead times for COBs they do not have on hand. When they get back to me I am happy to place an order if there are enough members here interested or struggling to source locally. @exkalapalatt has found a better price than mine in Slovenia but chances are they will not send them to me in the U.K. @Malocan I think is Deutsche and he struggled with TME.eu from Poland. It is how Citizen handle their distribution.

Cheers,
Will
Slovakia != Slovenia :cool:
Anyway, DNA is also a distributor for the Czech Republic. Could assist with a purchase if anyone is interested.
 

Will Thayer

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Slovakia != Slovenia :cool:
Anyway, DNA is also a distributor for the Czech Republic. Could assist with a purchase if anyone is interested.
Yes of course, my apologies to our Slovenian brothers and sisters for this mistake. Do you have any information from DNA about stock levels and any price breaks. If the cost reduction is significant I just might take you up on your kind offer.

Cheers,
Will
 

exkalapalatt

Active Member
Slovakia != Slovenia :cool:
Anyway, DNA is also a distributor for the Czech Republic. Could assist with a purchase if anyone is interested.
The DNA Slovakia have no CLU-048 Ra80 leds or CLU-058 leds on stock right now, they have to order and the delivery time is 4-6 weeks.

Quote:

we have stock only those on which we have customers, only for COBs on stock we can reduce MOQ.For CLU048 size is MOQ 30pcs, for CLU058 is 20 pcs.


we have on stock now from size CLU04x

CLU046-1212C1-303M2G2 Ra80, 3000K
CLU046-1212C1-403M2G2 Ra80, 4000K,
CLU046-1212C1-40AL7G4 Ra70, 4000K
CLU046-1812C1-40AL7G4 Ra70, 4000K

CLU048-1212C4-40AL7K3 Ra70, 4000K
CLU048-1812C4-40AL7K3 Ra70, 4000K



We are distributors of Citizen only for Slovakia and Hungary, each country have own distributor, so we can sell it only to you and after that you can sell it to the third person in Europe or overseas. We can help you with any question from them, help specify the right type or do any support for you.

Also we can offer you another components needed to complete whole luminaire, e.g. holder, driver, heat sink, reflector, lens.


I think you should write a letter for Michal Dobrovodský at the DNA Slovakia. I can't belive that you can't direct order some leds from an other country in 2016. Like the Cocom list in the '80s...



 

klx

Well-Known Member
The DNA Slovakia have no CLU-048 Ra80 leds or CLU-058 leds on stock right now, they have to order and the delivery time is 4-6 weeks.

Quote:

we have stock only those on which we have customers, only for COBs on stock we can reduce MOQ.For CLU048 size is MOQ 30pcs, for CLU058 is 20 pcs.


we have on stock now from size CLU04x

CLU046-1212C1-303M2G2 Ra80, 3000K
CLU046-1212C1-403M2G2 Ra80, 4000K,
CLU046-1212C1-40AL7G4 Ra70, 4000K
CLU046-1812C1-40AL7G4 Ra70, 4000K

CLU048-1212C4-40AL7K3 Ra70, 4000K
CLU048-1812C4-40AL7K3 Ra70, 4000K



We are distributors of Citizen only for Slovakia and Hungary, each country have own distributor, so we can sell it only to you and after that you can sell it to the third person in Europe or overseas. We can help you with any question from them, help specify the right type or do any support for you.

Also we can offer you another components needed to complete whole luminaire, e.g. holder, driver, heat sink, reflector, lens.


I think you should write a letter for Michal Dobrovodský at the DNA Slovakia. I can't belive that you can't direct order some leds from an other country in 2016. Like the Cocom list in the '80s...
This kind of arrangement just leaves themselves open to Alibaba sellers stepping into the void and sorting distribution out hint hint
 

Hampsteri

Well-Known Member
They wont sell outside and its a same thing with TME.EU. I tried that hard with several mails but no. That local sellershit is so unbelievable in 2016.
 

alesh

Well-Known Member
The DNA Slovakia have no CLU-048 Ra80 leds or CLU-058 leds on stock right now, they have to order and the delivery time is 4-6 weeks.

Quote:

we have stock only those on which we have customers, only for COBs on stock we can reduce MOQ.For CLU048 size is MOQ 30pcs, for CLU058 is 20 pcs.


we have on stock now from size CLU04x

CLU046-1212C1-303M2G2 Ra80, 3000K
CLU046-1212C1-403M2G2 Ra80, 4000K,
CLU046-1212C1-40AL7G4 Ra70, 4000K
CLU046-1812C1-40AL7G4 Ra70, 4000K

CLU048-1212C4-40AL7K3 Ra70, 4000K
CLU048-1812C4-40AL7K3 Ra70, 4000K



We are distributors of Citizen only for Slovakia and Hungary, each country have own distributor, so we can sell it only to you and after that you can sell it to the third person in Europe or overseas. We can help you with any question from them, help specify the right type or do any support for you.

Also we can offer you another components needed to complete whole luminaire, e.g. holder, driver, heat sink, reflector, lens.


I think you should write a letter for Michal Dobrovodský at the DNA Slovakia. I can't belive that you can't direct order some leds from an other country in 2016. Like the Cocom list in the '80s...


I'm aware of that. I'm dealing with DNA Central Europe. And yes, I agree, Citizen's distribution sucks.
 
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