Buds for Less - CFL BOOK

VictorVIcious said:

... He did not use the reflectors either...

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I may be misunderstanding what you're saying but he did use reflectors around the bulbs, he just took them off for the photos so you could see the plants better. Sorry if I misunderstood what you're saying, just wanted to clarify.

He left them off, I reminded him of what is on Page vi, gave him a way out, still says he never used them. Just to clarify that. There are probably 5 or more threads about SeeMores book. It may even be in this particular thread, I'm not sure. I am sure of the information, just to clarify that. VV

VictorVIcious said:

He left them off, I reminded him of what is on Page vi, gave him a way out, still says he never used them. Just to clarify that. There are probably 5 or more threads about SeeMores book. It may even be in this particular thread, I'm not sure. I am sure of the information, just to clarify that. VV

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nice... LOL


I never used reflectors.. I am sorry if the book says I used reflectors...It is not true.. it is a misprint... or a mis edit or something.. But you are now hearing it from the horses mouth....


It is actually page VIII that talks about reflectors.. and now that I read it, I can see the confusion.. I never ment to imply that I used reflectors.. BUT rather< i did not use reflectors for recording(photographing) purposes..

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Me and a few of my friends were loitering around our local Border's when we walked by the Gardening section. I quickly glanced to the left and saw a shelf that was completely stocked on the top, completely stocked on the bottom and empty on the middle rack... well, empty except for your book, "Buds For Less". I bought it immediately!

Thanks for writing such a terrific book, I am currently on my way to my first grow! +Rep for you!

GK I love you man your my hero, along with Dr. budgreengenes. Do you know of him and have you seen his youtube vid about the geisha?

I've got a set up that looks like its from space, but its all from HD and lowes as soon as I think its safe I'll post some pics.

I think I have found a chem that when applied to nutes will double the yeild of any plant, doing tests on it right now and if it works was wondering GK if you wanted to help me sell and promote it. The chemical is not made in this country anymore, not because its dangerous but bc china can do it cheaper. I do have a source on it in china. If you can do some of your own testing on it GK I would be glad to send it to you along with all the research that was done on it by a south african company in the 80's. It is said that this chem will also allow plants to grow with less light!!! I promise you I couldn't make this shit up. PS we should all thank GOD for Nevielle and the seed bank for his work of the modern hybrid and for making all those journys to save such precious strains like mazar i sharif. If he had not gone to the Khyber Pass we might not have that tasty OG Kush. God save Afghanistan and the middle east. Peace out JDUB

Is that multiple personalities or just an uncanny coincidence: jdub3d - jdub420

No both are me I forgot my username and just creatated another account with my other email address. My bad, hope its all gravy. God I love gravyyyyyy and pie

I'd love to hear more about his nutrient.. and yes I would be willing to try it out..

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Its an alcoholized sugar, called methyl glucose. More important at the momment is I've got yellowing leaves on 2 of my plants. First off I've got a cab made from 2 inverted rubbermades ( wish I had made a real cab with doors, but that will have to be changed later) with 12 cfls and one 50w hps in the center. 10x26w 6500k and 2x26w 3000k. 8 are up top with the 50w hps in the center and 4 on the sides. There are 25 babies in the cab with mylar from top to bottum and they are in 20oz dixxie cups started from killer headies that happened to have seeds. One strain of seed where 2years old and the other was from some purps that my boy from cali hooked me up with (sadly he got married and moved back to cali). They have been in veg for 3 and 1/2 weeks. I would have started to flower(will change to more reds less blues when I do) them but bc of side lights I am unable to shut my closet door and basically haven't set it up right so that all light is shut out for the 12 hours of total dark. Heat is not an issue I can keep the cab btw 75 to 82 degrees when the lights are on.The purps are doing fine, nice dark leaves with a hint of purple. The other strains leaves are starting to get yellowing in the first 2 sets of nodes and it appears tobe creeping upwards. I do believe this strain has some skunk in it or sativa bc all the new sprouts have always had a yellowish tent but then turn into a nice lime green. Do you think its a nitrogen diffecency or too much nitrogen? They are in a miricale grow soil thats a 21 7 14 NPK. Any ideas would be appreciated and would be glad to hook you up with some methyl glucose, is there a way I can send you info without putting it up on the forum for everyone to see.I don't have your book yet, but I will soon and maybe a dvd too, I use to have one of ED's books from the early 80's but can't find it. Thanks GK I LOVE PIE ooooow and gravey

Hey look at that I'm # 311. Amber is the color of my hash. Just kidding I wish I had some amber glove hash, soon come man, soon come!

KAK SMACKERS rule the world (unfortunitly), but soon THE MIGHY PUSSIES will rise again and bitch slap them all (go Barack). There are some weird people on these forums and I guess I'm one of them. I just found out that RZA/the genius with be in NC next month and SCI might have a reunion show aswell. Galaxtic, particle, lotus and snake oil ( so glad they got back together, that chick has got an amazing voice).Dubconscious will be there too, if anyone here hasn't heard of them,check em out bc they bring your mind, body, and soul to a new level,hot ragga muffins mon will be there if u know what I mean. And last but not least my home town peps incognito will be there. Heard enough and you want to be there then go to jam base and find TRINUMERAL festival (formally SMILE FEST). Be there or be square. eeeeMMMMMMM GRAVEY (its all good)

I don't mean to be a nay-sayer and I am not trying to offend you GK. I have no Idea how you were able to pull off the results that you did in your book, but what I am concerned with is that your results are a misleading. Not that you didn't get 8oz just that the book makes it sound like anyone could do that just by following directions. The reason I am saying this is because I have a friend who came to me all super excited because someone loaned him your book, after reading it he got himself all worked up and thinks that he will be able to pull 8oz from 3 clones going immediately into 12/12.

Obviously he is setting himself up to be greatly disappointed. I think a lot of people purchasing this book are going to believe that if they simply follow the instructions that they will get the same results you did.

Anyone who is familiar with growing knows that your experience and expertise is what enabled you to pull off such amazing results, and that anyone trying to emulate those results that isn't as skilled a grower as you is going to come up short. Especially if that person is a first time grower such as my friend.

I tried to explain to my friend how extraordinary your results were, and that reproducing your results would be nearly impossible for him to do. There are so many factors that play into the end result of a grow that he just does not understand yet. Such as strain, local climate, experience, reading your plants, and a number of other factors.

So basically I am just saying that your book, if it does not already have one, should have some sort of disclaimer informing new growers to use it as a guideline, and that they should not expect the same results that you got.

Peace,
CC

noober said:

It was one mango seed and two blue dot clones in the book and I don't recall seeing anywhere that the grow started from 12/12. You're friend will need to run veg and flower light cycles.

Follow the instructions on how to prepare pots and water them properly and he/she should be okay. It is very important to control pH though.

Read the book 3x before starting.

Also, the book does not claim to be a beginners guide... GK clearly states that it is a grow journal that can be used to compare ones progress to the book.

The book should be supplemented with lots of research and other sources of information.

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The point that I was trying to make was that even if my friend read the book ten times, and spent a month doing research. There is still no way he could expect to get the same results as GK. Especially on his first attempt. That should be stated in the book(if it is not). I would be willing to bet that not even one person on this site besides GK could reproduce those results.

That's just your opinion. I am pretty sure you have not read the book, yet you make all these statements about what it should say. Have a read through it before you judge. Try it before your condem it. You uneducated guesses are unfounded.

noober said:

That's just your opinion. I am pretty sure you have not read the book, yet you make all these statements about what it should say. Have a read through it before you judge. Try it before your condem it. You uneducated guesses are unfounded.

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So you think you could reproduce those results?

Yes. I was going to go that route but decided to buy an HID. I'm still using his soil and watering methods and the results are fine. The cost of those CFLs has gone up since the book was first published and it made more sense for me to buy and HID, rather than three CFLs per plant.

Common sense and patience is what one needs to be successful. Learn how to properly water your plants and how to monitor pH and you're well on your way. Proper ventilation is next on my list of importance. There's a lot to learn but one month is plenty of time to read, learn, and prepare. And this book is an excellent reference guide.

TheChronicCrusader said:

I don't mean to be a nay-sayer and I am not trying to offend you GK. I have no Idea how you were able to pull off the results that you did in your book, but what I am concerned with is that your results are a misleading. Not that you didn't get 8oz just that the book makes it sound like anyone could do that just by following directions. The reason I am saying this is because I have a friend who came to me all super excited because someone loaned him your book, after reading it he got himself all worked up and thinks that he will be able to pull 8oz from 3 clones going immediately into 12/12.

Obviously he is setting himself up to be greatly disappointed. I think a lot of people purchasing this book are going to believe that if they simply follow the instructions that they will get the same results you did.

Anyone who is familiar with growing knows that your experience and expertise is what enabled you to pull off such amazing results, and that anyone trying to emulate those results that isn't as skilled a grower as you is going to come up short. Especially if that person is a first time grower such as my friend.

I tried to explain to my friend how extraordinary your results were, and that reproducing your results would be nearly impossible for him to do. There are so many factors that play into the end result of a grow that he just does not understand yet. Such as strain, local climate, experience, reading your plants, and a number of other factors.

So basically I am just saying that your book, if it does not already have one, should have some sort of disclaimer informing new growers to use it as a guideline, and that they should not expect the same results that you got.

Peace,
CC

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not offended... I totally appreciate your thoughts..

A couple days ago, I went to the guys HOUSE where I found the mango seed... yes, I found the mango seed in a pile of VAPORIZED left overs... My friend was surprised that the seed even germinated after being vaporized.. LOL

That was the same seed that grew the mega plant in the book.... The blue dot clones.... as I recall were a gift from a friend..

I really did nothing other than what is stated in the book. Really... nothing tricky...

YES.. i did spend 1-3 hours EVERY single day chilling with the plants.. staring at them.. KEEPING the lights as CLOSE as possible.. just be memorized by the PLANT... Plants have that affect on me NOT just ganja plants but pretty much all plants....

And I actually had ZERO intention of PUBLISHING a book.. I put the book together for fun using PHOTOSHOP... and ONLY after I showed Ed on a whim did it get published...


I am not sure what kind of disclaimer you are thinking of? Maybe the word disclaimer is a bit strong...

I do think that even if somebody got 3 ounces from a single CFL grow, that would be fantastic...

I also suspect that I could have even had a larger harvest if I would have had 3 or 4 mango plants... lol

I have seen very nice grows with 1000 watt HIDs... with shitty strains that produce 8 ounces or less per harvest....

I will continue to process your comments.. and I do appreciate your tact.

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