⚠︎ Brother OneHitDone Gone VERTICAL ⇪

420producer

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ttystikk said:
I pull 6 to 7 times a year and I'm growing vertical trees that take 3 months to veg. Just run perpetual.
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7? you pulling some at week 6? getting bud rot? P.M.. what im doing is main room i put all the 6 month olds in . mostly mothers, and i have just a 12x12 room with just 3 D/E 2600 watts where i just vegged 2 weeks pulling in 12 3gal a week 1.25 to 1.5 lbs comes out weekly i run lights horizontal but as they finish i have built a raised vert railing surrounding main floor. to fit more plants and raising them the last week closer to the light fatten them up. im building this half pipe inspired scrogged type screening to maximize area getting the sweet spot on these next moms...a lil training in order to make this happen.. i feel i have a lot of wasted space growing the moms
 

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ttystikk

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420producer said:
7? you pulling some at week 6? getting bud rot? P.M.. what im doing is main room i put all the 6 month olds in . mostly mothers, and i have just a 12x12 room with just 3 D/E 2600 watts where i just vegged 2 weeks pulling in 12 3gal a week 1.25 to 1.5 lbs comes out weekly i run lights horizontal but as they finish i have built a raised vert railing surrounding main floor. to fit more plants and raising them the last week closer to the light fatten them up. im building this half pipe inspired scrogged type screening to maximize area getting the sweet spot on these next moms...a lil training in order to make this happen.. i feel i have a lot of wasted space growing the moms
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No. COB LED makes them finish faster.
 
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i was thinking that . week of transition i have . you dont..? just switch to 12/12 makes sense.. i plan to have a COB made. but $$ ... 1 of those high end COB cost the same as 3 D/E . love to do a side by side . with my 600 D/E in summer time grow. this was cherry pie.. cant find any decent genetic out here in norco... would like to find some sort of decent collective. that is doing it here and not all this boo-boo CL shit claiming to be this or that.. but is really a C27 clone he got from a homie thats had the same mother for 2 years..??? lol jk. but would like to be compliant here and go LED . wtg on your grow,
you can see the flowers i had made from clones i got here and the sour D i brought from norcal in the back..
 

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ttystikk

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420producer said:
sorry stoned.... i consider the week i put into 12/12. is still veg./ transition week. and 7 days later would be week 1 of bloom when flowers form. imo
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Having asked breeders about this, the consensus response I got was that they count from the day of flip.

The differences in finish time come mostly from the growing environment. Higher intensity conditions generally tend to push the plants to finish faster.
 
Hybridway

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OneHitDone said:
I forgot to add that there is also 8oz+ sugar trim that would need to be added to those weights if we were going by LED section g/w calculations lol :P
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Lol! Haha, that's hilarious & so true about the led section posted weights. It's sooooo misleading. Some people get so hyped on delivering high #'s cuz they use led.
I get whatchur saying about light only from one side causing funky bud growth. I'm in total agreement. There deff should be light coming from both sides.
 
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ttystikk

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Hybridway said:
Lol! Haha, that's hilarious & so true about the led section posted weights. It's sooooo misleading. Everyone is so hyped on delivering high #'s cuz they use led.
I get whatchur saying about light only from one side causing funky bud growth. I'm in total agreement. There deff should be light coming from both sides.
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I think the untold secret about LED vs HID is less about yield statistics and more about the quality improvement.
 
Hybridway

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ttystikk said:
I think the untold secret about LED vs HID is less about yield statistics and more about the quality improvement.
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My above statements not knocking your grow style btw. It works for you n that's all that should matter.
The thing about led vs hps is actually the misconception that LEDs are more efficient. Add that much needed IR (720-860) to your leds & all the sudden they are no more efficient then hps. Maybe less even, not to mention I have a theory that the diode IR doesn't deliver the same as the bulb IR in means of plant reaction.
As far as quality difference, Its minuet IMO & canceled out by smaller buds in which add huge time to trimming & reduces bag appeal.
Maybe I'm wrong, haven't exactly had a really good grow this year w/ my LEDs mostly due to plant issues.
But this is how I'm feeling about the whole thing honestly. Bout to bang on a side by side.
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The Only Ones Doing That Are You 2 And The QB People :hump:
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You're joking right?
Yeah I do post false #'s actually. Averaging about 2#'s more then I post cuz if it's to small I won't trim it n off to BHO it goes.
Bowowowyippyoyippyeah the sounds of the dog bring to another day!!!
 
ttystikk

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Hybridway said:
My above statements not knocking your grow style btw. It works for you n that's all that should matter.
The thing about led vs hps is actually the misconception that LEDs are more efficient. Add that much needed IR (720-860) to your leds & all the sudden they are no more efficient then hps. Maybe less even, not to mention I have a theory that the diode IR doesn't deliver the same as the bulb IR in means of plant reaction.
As far as quality difference, Its minuet IMO & canceled out by smaller buds in which add huge time to trimming & reduces bag appeal.
Maybe I'm wrong, haven't exactly had a really good grow this year w/ my LEDs mostly due to plant issues.
But this is how I'm feeling about the whole thing honestly. Bout to bang on a side by side.

You're joking right?
Yeah I do post false #'s actually. Averaging about 2#'s more then I post cuz if it's to small I won't trim it n off to BHO it goes.
Bowowowyippyoyippyeah the sounds of the dog bring to another day!!!
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You're wrong. Higher efficiency is just that.

If the room isn't warm enough with more efficient lights then what you need isn't more heat but proper insulation!.
 
OneHitDone

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Hybridway said:
You're joking right?
Yeah I do post false #'s actually. Averaging about 2#'s more then I post cuz if it's to small I won't trim it n off to BHO it goes.
Bowowowyippyoyippyeah the sounds of the dog bring to another day!!!
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@The Dawg is always joking around bro, gotta love it. Some don't have thick enough skin or some shit and tuck their tails between their legs and run off or cry for mod help lol
I think it keeps the forums entertaining and interesting :hump:
 
Hybridway

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ttystikk said:
You're wrong. Higher efficiency is just that.

If the room isn't warm enough with more efficient lights then what you need isn't more heat but proper insulation!.
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I feel room temp does not directly correlate to the IR deficiency in LEDs. Meaning, raising the temps isn't gonna fix the problem.
It's all beyond our comprehension @ this point until somebody makes a solid fact w/ fancy scientific terms, they'll always be disagreement. Even then, will it be cannabis specific? I don't mean the Emmerson either.
It's more then that.
Seriously, if one tried to replicate the IR output of a bulb in their led fixture, they'd be less efficient then SE HPS. And still wouldn't get the same results I doubt.
The industry took a wrong turn @ 400-700nm. This along w/ all the problems in the past is usually done out of convenience IMO.
I'm working hard this wk to get a Thouie up in my room so we can have a side by side that actually is seen through to the end.
Last attempt around here that o know of was that dude last year that was mega hyped on low driven cobs. Forgot his name. Set up You-Tube n everything. He had the metal garbage can tops x4. Once it came to weigh in he was gone w/ the wind.
OneHitDone said:
@The Dawg is always joking around bro, gotta love it. Some don't have thick enough skin or some shit and tuck their tails between their legs and run off or cry for mod help lol
I think it keeps the forums entertaining and interesting :hump:
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I like his sense of humor!
This is a good thread, gotta finish reading it from where I left off last year.
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Hey I Was Serious About The QB Growers :hump:
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Those QB growers are absolutely nuts. I heard Stephen drives them around in a QB Mystery Machine sneaking in your house at night to disconnect any colored diodes you may have & scrogging all your plants. Then they write 2 GPW all over your fridge.
 
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Hybridway said:
Those QB growers are absolutely nuts. I heard Stephen drives them around in a QB Mystery Machine sneaking in your house at night to disconnect any colored diodes you may have & scrogging all your plants. Then they write 2 GPW all over your fridge.
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:lol:
Hopefully you are tuning in to the Grand Master Level Genetics QB light Test?
 
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OneHitDone said:
:lol:
Hopefully you are tuning in to the Grand Master Level Genetics QB light Test?
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Naw, haven't. Is that something I can just google?
Is it a side by side? Surprised they haven't started using lenses on them yet, unless I'm just not seeing it.
Wow, you really put allot of work into this vertical build to test. Was this your only run using this technique?
I'd like to see @zep_lover do this using a Horizon on each side, 2 cobs @ the top & the screen in the middle. Wazup Zep?!

Does anyone here have an opinion or experience using Mammoth P w/ the H&G line up? I ask cuz I recently Introduced the DripClean to their feed & want to add the Mammoth but feel the Drip clean will kill it. Any input on this would be appreciated.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Hybridway said:
I feel room temp does not directly correlate to the IR deficiency in LEDs. Meaning, raising the temps isn't gonna fix the problem.
It's all beyond our comprehension @ this point until somebody makes a solid fact w/ fancy scientific terms, they'll always be disagreement. Even then, will it be cannabis specific? I don't mean the Emmerson either.
It's more then that.
Seriously, if one tried to replicate the IR output of a bulb in their led fixture, they'd be less efficient then SE HPS. And still wouldn't get the same results I doubt.
The industry took a wrong turn @ 400-700nm. This along w/ all the problems in the past is usually done out of convenience IMO.
I'm working hard this wk to get a Thouie up in my room so we can have a side by side that actually is seen through to the end.
Last attempt around here that o know of was that dude last year that was mega hyped on low driven cobs. Forgot his name. Set up You-Tube n everything. He had the metal garbage can tops x4. Once it came to weigh in he was gone w/ the wind.

I like his sense of humor!
This is a good thread, gotta finish reading it from where I left off last year.

Those QB growers are absolutely nuts. I heard Stephen drives them around in a QB Mystery Machine sneaking in your house at night to disconnect any colored diodes you may have & scrogging all your plants. Then they write 2 GPW all over your fridge.
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When I raised my temps my plants responded vigorously. So that's a data point to keep in mind.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Hybridway said:
Naw, haven't. Is that something I can just google?
Is it a side by side? Surprised they haven't started using lenses on them yet, unless I'm just not seeing it.
Wow, you really put allot of work into this vertical build to test. Was this your only run using this technique?
I'd like to see @zep_lover do this using a Horizon on each side, 2 cobs @ the top & the screen in the middle. Wazup Zep?!

Does anyone here have an opinion or experience using Mammoth P w/ the H&G line up? I ask cuz I recently Introduced the DripClean to their feed & want to add the Mammoth but feel the Drip clean will kill it. Any input on this would be appreciated.
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Mammoth P is really for soil and soilless grows with lots of micro life. It won't help you in sterile hydro.

I know some of the guys originally involved with the project, it was developed right here in northern Colorado.
 
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